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of the US team at next year's Ryder Cup, but he says he still wants to

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play as well. That's all coming up in Sportsday in the next 15 after

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The Papers. Hello and welcome to

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our look ahead to what the papers With me are former

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US State Department official and law professor, Colleen Graffy,

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and the political editor The i's headline is The Republic

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Strikes Back, after a major police Armed French police are also

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pictured on the front The Telegraph claims David Cameron

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is to get a plane worth ?10 million for use

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on long-haul government trips. Migrants hoping to come to

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the UK to join their spouse must learn to speak

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English first, according to a court The Paris police raids are

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the main story on the Metro. It claims Charles de Gaulle airport

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could have been The Guardian highlights

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the uncertainty over whether the alleged ringleader of

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Friday's attacks was one of those A poll in the Mail claims 60%

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of Britons would support air strikes in Syria,

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in the wake of the Paris attacks. Finally, the Independent's front

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page tells the story of 'the battle of Saint-Denis'

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in words and in pictures. Police close in on terror cell. The

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sense that the authorities possibly stop an attack on Charles de Gaulle

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airport, and possibly on the financial district. A major success

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after a lot of criticism of the security forces in France. And this

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extraordinary firefight in the early hours of the morning in one of the

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world's most beautiful cities, in one of its suburbs, and dozens of

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police moved in and they were... There will be a sense in front of a

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catharsis. At last we're doing something, adding back on the front

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foot. It will be seen as revenge. Whether they did take out Abdelhamid

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Abaaoud we don't know. They say it was such... 5000 bullets fired, it

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was utterly merciless scene. This woman died when she decimated a

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suicide vest. Apparently the first female suicide bomber in Europe and

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we hope the last. -- detonated. His cousin and potentially his wife. I

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haven't heard that one before. But while the suggestion is that this

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man might still be alive, they don't know for sure that his remains are

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in the room, there is still the potential for more attacks. But all

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credit to the French. This is a fantastic story in the Times. This

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was an attack that really looked like it was about to happen at

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Charles de Gaulle airport, the business section. Over 100 police

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and 5000 bullets, you can only imagine. They have interviews with

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the neighbours who said they thought it was war breaking out, they didn't

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think they would leave. It must have been amazing. All credit to the

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French. -- would live. Swift detective work. All precautions.

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School trips were cancelled on advice of the government. That's the

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French government saying the other is not to come in, which is pretty

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gutsy. By all accounts they found a phone at the back of an arena which

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apparently had a message on it from the jihadist saying, let's move.

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That helped them moved to this area in Saint-Denis. Yes. It was a phone

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left by the attacker. Amazing technology. I'm not an expert.

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Incredible detective work, as you say. The front page of the Sun and

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the Mirror. These papers and a couple of others seem to think that

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somewhere in the remains of that building is the body of the

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mastermind of last Friday's attacks. The cops kill terror mastermind.

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They have" " kill terror mastermind". -- they have in quotes.

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They go out on a limb and say they have got him. Interesting details,

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if I can sing the praises of my paper at the moment, a warning that

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there are others on the loose still. One of Friday's attackers is on the

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loose and they are searching for the bomb expert, the one who makes the

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lethal killing machines, including the suicide vest. They are trying to

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find him and they are worried he has gone to Belgium as well but they

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aren't sure. They had success this morning, but we do not know. There

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is still a sense of terror hanging over France like a dark shadow.

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There is a little first person piece by my colleague about how he jumped

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in a taxi at 4:30 a.m., rushed to the scene and he says it was surreal

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seeing that many troops in a capital city like this. It is extraordinary.

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This bomb maker from the Peruvian, it is extraordinary gain of him so

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well. They know he lives in northern France. -- from the Caribbean. Why

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didn't they pick him up earlier? It was interesting listening to a

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French commentator talking about that today. The suggestion is the

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emergency powers Francois hole want extended, they have allowed people

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to be picked up at random and held for as long as they want. --

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President Hollande. But they have not had any concrete evidence that

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would allow them to arrest them. It is an MoU with these emergency

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powers that they can scoop them up. For civil libertarians, they would

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say this is disgraceful. You can't have these measures going on beyond

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the period of emergency. A decade ago, Tony Blair wanted 92 days. For

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the civil libertarians, they will say they haven't picked anyone up,

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but until they have a linkage... Now they have one. Of course he should

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be picked up. No, I'm not saying they are complaining now, but as was

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the case after 7/7, Tony Blair wanted to move forward with similar

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powers as the norm, as it were, there was a lot of anger and

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reaction to that. Of course the problem is that you're not looking

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to punish them for a crime, you are trying to prevent what would be a

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huge massacre because of the techniques and bombing. This is the

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debate we have to have and we will have it over the Charter. Which will

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potentially save peoples' lives! We have to balance how many of the

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liberties are part of a culture which ISIL is trying to attack. I

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don't disagree with that but don't use a pejorative term. I can if I

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want, if something is going to impinge on my civil liberties. That

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not balance, by calling it the charter... I won't use that term. I

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will just sit here and listen to U2 go at it. It is a lot of fun. -- to

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you two. But there is a serious debate. This is frankly going to

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continue for some time. Let's go to the Telegraph. EU border scandal.

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How did most wanted get to Paris? This man is now supposed to be in

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Syria. -- was in Syria. He ended up in Paris. One assumes he didn't

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flush a pass but, and question marks here The Daily Telegraph suggests

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about EU border policy. Yes. It comes into question within the EU we

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want freedom of movement of goods, services and people. Not when you

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come to a time when terrorists are moving back and forth, bringing

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truckloads of weapons, is it time for us to consider whether there

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should be further checks? It doesn't mean you can't have freedom of

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movement, it just means there will be checks. Just as we come via

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airport to the UK from the mainland, there were checks. That still

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freedom of movement. The European Commission indicates it will resist

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any attempt by France to try to strengthen the border security

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within the Shannon free zone. But I'm not sure that's the wisest

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decision to make in these times. -- Schengen agreement free zones. I

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guess this has always been the line by those against the free zone, not

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having to show a passport or whatever. That you can just move

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terrorists, not just bananas. You can. And the different countries

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have different monitoring powers and different levels of surveillance.

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Obviously that can stop at a border. One of the argument is you could say

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you need a bigger Europeans surveillance agency. If you have

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open borders, you need a more collective response from the

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European states. I come back to what I said earlier, the vast majority of

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people... The Schengen agreement has made life easier and has worked.

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Including blokes like this, apparently. Exactly. They see it as

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a weak link and they will go through it. The Telegraph is a Eurosceptic

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paper. I don't think it needs to be Eurosceptic to say this is a soft

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underbelly of the EU, to have terrorists to be able to move...

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Like the bomb maker, going from northern France to Belgium. We could

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have picked him up by now if he had stopped at the border. It sounds

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like incompetence, really, missing him. A car load of weapons. I don't

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understand that. Seems like there is a bit of human error. But there's a

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lot of fallout from what happened in Paris. The suggestion that there has

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been a bit of a backlash against Syrian refugees coming here. Now we

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get this on the front of the Daily Mail. We should bomb Syria, say 60%

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of Britons. A sense that we need to deal with them over there, so we

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don't have to deal with them here. It is also interesting because it

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was the Mirror that also said David Cameron is ready to bomb Islamic

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State terrorists, with or without approval. As a law professor, I am

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curious as to how that one will be... Which is precisely why we have

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qualified people like yourself on The Papers to explain such

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situations. Does he need UN approval? He could say it is an act

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of self-defence under an article, you have the right to defend

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yourself. That's what we'll be argued. We will see. But has the UK

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been attacked? No, France, what is France calling this a war? They are.

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Are they asking for assistance? There would be the self-defence. It

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is self-defence, acting with France. OK. The political side of this is

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that there are a lot of Labour MPs who will be willing to back military

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action but on the condition it has UN approval. I think if Cameron goes

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to an election it will be harder to get the boat through the House of

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Commons. The course he needs Labour. -- vote. The Labour Party is split

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on this. There's enough of them there to get it through, with the

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Conservatives. But the mood has changed in Parliament on this. But

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they all still say they need to see the strategy. You have the Americans

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and the Russians in there. What does it mean for Assad? Are you now

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siding with the Assad regime? Do you still want him to go? There are many

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questions to answer. This poll is interesting, but it is one done

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without the questions. I would also be late that to the political

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atmosphere with regard to Jeremy Corbyn. He be the odd person out if

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60% of the population and his MPs... Where does that put him? Yes,

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in a difficult position. The Telegraph. David Cameron will get

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there. Britain, or whatever, he will get his own plane and it will cost

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?10 million. Does that make sense? In terms of what he has to do in

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flying around the world. Do you have any experience in this?

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I love the story. I have flown with Tony Blair and Gordon Brown and

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David Cameron. The charter anything. Once they chartered hooters and. --

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Hooters Air. They were very well clothed, the hostesses. Spending ?10

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million of a plane during massive cuts will be controversial. We have

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all of these massive jumbos. In terms of international prestige... I

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am sorry. It is not about David Cameron, it is about the Prime

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Minister of this country. It is the office. For people to attack him

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personally is not wise. It is a bit weird that Tony Blair did not get

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this. He was described as written's first presidential Prime Minister.

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-- Britain's. He said we were going to have this, two new jets, one for

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the Royal family and wonderful the Prime Minister. -- one for the.

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Gordon Brown cancelled it. And ended up with Wawrinka instead. -- Hooters

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Air. Even though it sounds like a lot of

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money, when you think of the time of the Prime Minister with commercial

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planes, it does not make sense. It is incredible to see the whole of

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Downing Street go onto it plain. -- onto the plane. They operate on a

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charter plane. It has been great having you in. Looking at some of

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the stories behind the headlines. Thank you. Now it is time for

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Sportsday. Hello and welcome to Sportsday -

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I'm Olly Foster. Rugby Union mourns the passing

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