20/11/2015 The Papers


20/11/2015

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Dubai where England have won the one-day series with Pakistan.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

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Thank you to our guests for joining us.

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The Independent leads with the Mali hotel siege and the headline,

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"Another Bloody Friday," a week on from the Paris attacks.

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The Guardian shows a picture of a vigil held in the French

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capital today and also reports on the Mali attack.

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The same story on the FT, showing an injured man being carried away from

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The Times focuses on a resolution, now approved by the

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UN Security Council, calling on member states to double their action

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The Telegraph says Britain is poised to join air strikes against IS

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in Syria after senior Labour MPs publicly defied their leader,

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The Mirror reports security chiefs are warning Islamic State could be

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plotting an attack on British ferries.

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The Express leads with the rise in the basic state pension

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expected to be announced in next week's Autumn Statement.

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And the Mail claims police are to probe a Tory scandal.

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We will begin with the siege that took place today in Mali and the

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capital, Bamako. It is the main picture and the main headline in the

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Independent. Special Forces stormed building to release hostages but the

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fate of many guests is still unclear. A very sad picture of a

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body in a bag being removed from the hotel. It seems that it is all

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over. Very conflicting reports but it appears that they have put an end

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to the siege and thankfully the majority of people got out, but not

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all. Yes. There were 76 hostages. The raid began before seven o'clock

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this morning, so it seems that from varied reports that they have

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checked the entire hotel, all seven floors of it, and everyone is out

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and accounted for. Because of where it took place, James, there were

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French and US forces in the area as part of the peacekeeping force. They

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were able to respond quickly. Absolutely. Despite the fact that

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this was an obvious security targets, it continues the trend

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where we have seen planes, trains, shopping centres in a hotel like

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this. There are reports here that the attackers came in a car with

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diplomatic numberplates. Absolutely, there were special forces close by

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and with the death toll close to 20, it could have been a lot worse.

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There are conflicting reports that there were up to 170 hostages at one

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point. The outcome is targeted enough.

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People who generally go to the hotel, generally it is the target,

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they were made to the target. The president of Mali says they are

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declaring a national state of emergency in the wake of the hotel

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attack. It also goes on to say that 21 people have died. That includes

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two militants and seven injured. This is a highly reliable news

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source. Moving onto the Guardian. People spontaneously turning up

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across the week, not just today, but in the places where these attacks

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happened. And this need to be there, this need to applaud and reflect has

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happened all week. Absolutely. We are seven days on end it feels like

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it was only happening just hours earlier tonight. It was last Friday

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that these attacks took place. People were urged to come out, urged

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to go to the bars and cafes, but one feels that they did not need too

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much encouragement to get out. Parisians wanted to come out and be

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defiant and showing solidarity. The Place de la Republique was full of

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people singing the national anthem tonight. It is a show of defiance.

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But we would be wrong to think that people are getting on with their

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lives. There are less and less people now in this world that have

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not been touched by terrorism. Paris still has a long way to go before it

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even gets back to a sense of normality. Nowhere close at the

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moment. Yes, it is defiant, but this is not normal. The Times is thinking

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of the concern that so many countries have. The world unites to

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wipe ISIS, maps. -- ISIS from the map. Calling on nations to take

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action by any necessary means. It is giving permission without there

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being a legally binding aspects to this. Exactly. However, this is

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quite a move for all of the governments that are involved.

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Before, we have the regular standouts of Russia and China,

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however it feels like we will get a decision either later tonight or

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early tomorrow morning and everyone will be behind living outside of

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Iraq and into Syria would air strikes. The UN has essentially been

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a bystander up until now on this and there was always the aspect of

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Russia and China vetoing any action to go into Syria. But now we have a

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united voice and what it means politically, obviously, is that it

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gives David Cameron the sort of leveraged that he needed to get a

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House of Commons motion through and that puts much more pressure on

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Jeremy Corbyn. And it seems that he will still attempt to give his

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speech tomorrow where he will make it clear that he still believes that

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Western intervention in the Middle East has led to more tax.

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Potentially, up until last Friday, there might be more people

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suggesting the same. But things have changed so much since then. And this

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is looking at the British aspect of this. Britain set to strike ISIS, as

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Labour MPs defy Corbyn. We don't know if they will need to define

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Corbyn. We have to let the man speak tomorrow but we don't know how many

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Labour MPs will follow him. We don't. Last week, there were reports

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of 20 and now it seems that number has increased to 60 MPs who are

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anticipating that he will be against the additional hour strikes. -- air

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strikes. However, they have been quite vocal. Is looking at some of

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the quotes... Is pacifist views -- Corbyn's have to -- Jeremy Corbyn's

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pacifist views could exclude him from office. Very strong statements.

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What does Britain do if it gets a mandate to go into Syria? And that

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point is not been stressed enough by David Cameron. It is being stressed

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by one Afghan veteran, who is just that Britain has specific tactical

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capabilities that would mean that we can help in the fight against ISIS,

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but the other issue is what happens when we have that time and space

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after we go into Syria? We don't exactly have a great track record in

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the west of cleaning up our rubbish afterwards. And one suggests that

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the case has still not been made here, an ironclad case, to

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potentially get the House of Commons vote. He is not as after a tight

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majority. He wants the House of Commons with him on this. He wants

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to be able to share the blame and responsibility. He wants a big

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number on this. This will concentrate all sorts of mines.

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Ferries. -- minds. The cross-channel ferry could potentially be a target.

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It is not surprising given the geography of our countries. I think

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that it would be wise for us, particularly looking at... Some of

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the migrant crises and the refugees and the association with the

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migrants coming through the ferry system, I'm not surprised that they

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are looking at this. It would be silly not to. This is the Autumn

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Statement from the Chancellor. Looking at the bigger pension

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pay-outs that everyone will get. They are not overwhelmingly

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increasing the pensions. I'm enjoying some of these quotes. This

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is apparently cracking news for pensioners, especially after another

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tough year for many. What about childcare? What about the cost of

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living in central London? How do I go out and buy a house at the moment

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with the other factors I have to face as a relatively young person?

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The argument for people having pensions is that they are on fixed

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incomes. Yes. I have to be patient. Yes. But let us be honest. Pensions

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are budgeting. When you have a pension, EU budget based on interest

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rates. -- you budget based on. Frankly, we do need some kind of

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guarantee against inflation. They will only get ?3 and 35p per week

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extra, so don't spend it all at once. Tax shortfall threatening

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borrowing goals. He is going to miss this by quite a margin. And it puts

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into jeopardy all of the plans that he had to eliminate borrowing by

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2019 and 2020. Increases with regards to income tax, national

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insurance, corporate tax, VAT... That means we will feel it in other

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places. He could always increased taxes. Absolutely. And maybe VAT

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could be looked at by George Osborne ahead of the Spending Review. But

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missing this target by ?10 billion. I know that George Osborne is a bit

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of a political Houdini, but this might be too much even for him. We

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will wait to see what he has to say on Wednesday. Thank you for joining

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us this evening. That is it from us tonight. Coming up next, Sportsday.

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Hello and welcome to Sportsday - I'm Lizzie Greenwood-Hughes.

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