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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers | :00:17. | :00:22. | |
With me are political commentator Jo Phillips and Nigel Nelson, political | :00:23. | :00:25. | |
The longest serving political editor, is that right? Yes, for my | :00:26. | :00:39. | |
sins. You will know a political story when you see one. Let's have a | :00:40. | :00:45. | |
look before we dissect their front pages. | :00:46. | :00:46. | |
The Observer reports security chiefs are warning Britain's counter-terror | :00:47. | :00:48. | |
forces must be boosted if they are to cope with a Paris-style attack. | :00:49. | :00:52. | |
The Sunday Telegraph says Britain looks set to join air strikes | :00:53. | :00:55. | |
against Islamic State targets in Syria by Christmas. | :00:56. | :00:58. | |
The Sunday Express also leads with Syria and says senior generals | :00:59. | :01:01. | |
believe a full-scale offensive would wipe IS off the map in two weeks. | :01:02. | :01:07. | |
And The Independent on Sunday asks "where do we go from here?" | :01:08. | :01:10. | |
with Britain's response to the threat from terrorism. | :01:11. | :01:18. | |
Bright, Jo and Nigel, who wants to begin? Britain prepares for war. It | :01:19. | :01:29. | |
is certainly a grim front page with a photo of an RAF Tornado, one of | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
the aircraft that would be used if we go into bombing raids against | :01:35. | :01:38. | |
Syria. The story says ministers believe we will be warming Syria by | :01:39. | :01:45. | |
Christmas. Downing Street in all The Papers say no date has been set and | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
after failing to get a vote last time, Mr Cameron will want to make | :01:51. | :01:55. | |
sure he has backing, but I think we will talk a little bit about the | :01:56. | :02:01. | |
surveys that show a huge growing public support for action, but what | :02:02. | :02:07. | |
this is really about is, what do you do apart from bombing raids? It has | :02:08. | :02:12. | |
to be something on the ground and that is increasingly the message | :02:13. | :02:17. | |
from the fence chiefs. Lord Dannatt is writing in the Telegraph, a | :02:18. | :02:23. | |
former chief of staff of the army said the same thing the other day, | :02:24. | :02:28. | |
you cannot just go win and do that, and I think we will now see some | :02:29. | :02:32. | |
fast politicking. Deals that have to be done with people we might not | :02:33. | :02:38. | |
necessarily choose to. By which you mean President Assad. That was the | :02:39. | :02:45. | |
basis on which David Cameron last asked the House of Commons to | :02:46. | :02:48. | |
authorise action in Syria and they said no. Then it was Assad and his | :02:49. | :02:55. | |
forces, now we have a threat from Islamic State. I think Jo is right, | :02:56. | :03:01. | |
things are moving at a huge rate, so with the UN resolution last night | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
that is clearing the way to start bombing, Cameron meets Francois | :03:06. | :03:13. | |
Hollande on Monday with a strategy on what the doing, President | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
Hollande then goes to Washington and Moscow, so we can see it welding up | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
but David Cameron still has to win a Commons vote and it is not yet | :03:24. | :03:29. | |
certain. I am sure the whips are running around as we speak to check | :03:30. | :03:32. | |
who is doing what but it is not certain. There is also this light | :03:33. | :03:39. | |
misinterpretation of the UN resolution which was rapidly passed | :03:40. | :03:43. | |
last night but did not come up with the chapters seven clause. I was | :03:44. | :03:50. | |
talking to a UN expert on Saturday for BBC Radio four, who was | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
convinced it does, and he says people are briefing in Newark, do | :03:56. | :04:03. | |
not panic, this is symbolic but does not have any legal teeth, and the | :04:04. | :04:08. | |
experts are saying, at least this one says it has got that authorities | :04:09. | :04:16. | |
if people want to use it. It is open to interpretation and therefore | :04:17. | :04:21. | |
misinterpretation. That adds to the nervousness amongst some, Nigel may | :04:22. | :04:25. | |
say what are we getting ourselves into? The essential thing is Russia | :04:26. | :04:33. | |
and China coming on board, only on Wednesday David Cameron said he | :04:34. | :04:37. | |
thought the Russians would veto it, so he might go ahead without a UN | :04:38. | :04:43. | |
resolution. The Westminster bet is where it moves to as far as David | :04:44. | :04:47. | |
Cameron goes, but the problem is we are now talking about sending ground | :04:48. | :04:53. | |
forces in and people are saying this was never on the cards before, | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
people are making it clear in the vapours tomorrow, the military | :04:58. | :05:03. | |
chiefs, Liam Fox that former Defence Secretary, you cannot win a war from | :05:04. | :05:07. | |
the air, you have to be on the ground. Let's move on to pages two | :05:08. | :05:13. | |
and three of the Independent on Sunday. They have done a whole of | :05:14. | :05:21. | |
public opinion on the world's leaders, if they have a favourable | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
view of the following leaders, and poor Francois Hollande, to be fair | :05:27. | :05:31. | |
is doing better but still a long way behind our back Obama, who has not | :05:32. | :05:39. | |
taken the lead on this. Interesting that Angela Merkel is split down the | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
middle. Vladimir Putin is the world's favourite baddie. Like | :05:46. | :05:56. | |
Marmite! You were thinking of venture might. Barack Obama is not | :05:57. | :06:04. | |
figuring in what is going on, this is a European thing, Putin is going | :06:05. | :06:12. | |
to Barack. Russia has a pivotal role in what is happening in Syria | :06:13. | :06:18. | |
because they are allies of President Assad and as Jeremy Greenstock, our | :06:19. | :06:25. | |
former ambassador to the UN, he says the UK will have to learn to support | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
the devil, and whether that is Russia or Assad, whether it is even | :06:30. | :06:36. | |
Al-Qaeda forces and the Free Syrian Army and all sorts of other | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
coalitions, but a coalition of the least worst options. Nigel, would | :06:42. | :06:47. | |
you endorse the suggestion Cameron will unveil a plan within days? If | :06:48. | :06:53. | |
there is going to bomb by Christmas we will need to get a vote through | :06:54. | :06:59. | |
the House of Commons quickly. The express says they can beat jihad is | :07:00. | :07:08. | |
within days. We only have the first page of it but it is military | :07:09. | :07:17. | |
commanders training officers to beat Kurdish fighters, they support | :07:18. | :07:24. | |
tougher British action in Syria, 60% favouring a ground war and that is a | :07:25. | :07:31. | |
huge shed. The question is, as ever, this is one survey but is it | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
indicative of a trend? And immediate reaction to events in Paris. We are | :07:38. | :07:46. | |
now getting some idea of people stiffening their resolve and | :07:47. | :07:50. | |
hardening to the idea we might have to do it. It would be a shift if | :07:51. | :07:57. | |
that was sustained, given the Barack aftermath has been a sense that | :07:58. | :08:01. | |
British public opinion would not wear boots on the ground. | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
Circumstances have changed because of Paris, but I think politicians | :08:07. | :08:11. | |
might have more thought this time than last time, so the key thing | :08:12. | :08:16. | |
Cameron will have to produce is, what happens afterwards? We cannot | :08:17. | :08:22. | |
leave states to descend into civil war as we did with Libya, Iraq and | :08:23. | :08:28. | |
we will have to see in Afghanistan. Pity the Chilcott report will not be | :08:29. | :08:34. | |
out in time! That is not so much about intervention in Syria at about | :08:35. | :08:39. | |
defending Europe. That is how he will fetch it. I am assuming, he | :08:40. | :08:48. | |
will be listening to these military voices. It is clear they know what | :08:49. | :08:54. | |
they are doing and they know how to win. It is whether we want to do | :08:55. | :09:00. | |
with. Let's look at the Observer, this is the other side of this, not | :09:01. | :09:06. | |
so much what you'd do in Syria and whether you do anything but what you | :09:07. | :09:10. | |
might need to go back here to make the UK's safe, given that Islamic | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
State seems willing to take the battle to western Europe. The | :09:16. | :09:22. | |
Observer is talking about the comprehensive spending review on | :09:23. | :09:27. | |
Wednesday, and the police want, especially counterterrorism police, | :09:28. | :09:31. | |
they want the kind of resources they need to do the job, ?200 billion, | :09:32. | :09:37. | |
and are worried George Osborne might take it away and given to defence. | :09:38. | :09:45. | |
We know we need that kind of material, George Osborne still wants | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
to stay on target for his ?10 billion savings by 2020, he will | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
have to do sleight of hand to achieve that. It will be a battle | :09:55. | :10:00. | |
between defence and the Home Office because if the defence review is | :10:01. | :10:06. | |
tomorrow, isn't it? Then you have CSR on Wednesday, so if you give | :10:07. | :10:11. | |
this money for fighting terrorism that should come out of defence, | :10:12. | :10:15. | |
perhaps it is the time to say to the police force, maybe we need a | :10:16. | :10:21. | |
national lease force. Given the controversy at the creation of a | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
lease Scotland's... Police England might be too far. 43 in England and | :10:26. | :10:33. | |
Wales, it seems ludicrous, a small country does not need 43 police | :10:34. | :10:41. | |
forces and two in London. Metropolitan Police and city police. | :10:42. | :10:48. | |
As you know. In the old days of Fleet Street, now all journalists | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
drink water but in the days when they got drug at night, the city | :10:53. | :10:57. | |
police would take them just over the border, away from Fleet Street, the | :10:58. | :11:02. | |
Met with, long and put them back again into the city area, they would | :11:03. | :11:08. | |
go backwards and forwards all night. By which time they had sobered up | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
and nobody had to deal with that! Let's go back to the Telegraph, this | :11:14. | :11:19. | |
comes out of another BBC programme, songs of praise. This is the | :11:20. | :11:28. | |
Archbishop of Canterbury in a PC has done for songs of praise, who said | :11:29. | :11:35. | |
the attacks in Paris left him asking white God wasn't there and he said | :11:36. | :11:40. | |
it is a chink in his armour and I think that is incredibly honest. I | :11:41. | :11:46. | |
think he is a terrific Archbishop because he has had a life outside, | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
he has been... He has beat on the side of Mammon as well, but I think | :11:53. | :11:57. | |
it is brave to say his faith was tested. There I say, if this had | :11:58. | :12:03. | |
been Rowan Williams saying it, for Robert Runcie, some of The Papers | :12:04. | :12:11. | |
might have taken it, it says something about the personality of | :12:12. | :12:17. | |
the man. He is likeable. He is a modern Archbishop. I think Rowan | :12:18. | :12:23. | |
Woodhouse the same sort of thing, there are occasions in the matter | :12:24. | :12:29. | |
how about you are that you out, the one thing the church hate is | :12:30. | :12:34. | |
complacency. Doubt is fine but people who do not care they worry | :12:35. | :12:39. | |
about, so to have Justin Welby say that the facts, he does not have the | :12:40. | :12:43. | |
answers, I think that is very honest. Does it make either of you | :12:44. | :12:48. | |
out or are you not religious? I'm not. I am but I know what doubt is, | :12:49. | :12:57. | |
I think that complacency thing is the worst kind of response, you want | :12:58. | :13:02. | |
to engage and then decide which way to go. You have to wonder, given | :13:03. | :13:08. | |
these atrocities in the name of a religion, it makes you doubt that. I | :13:09. | :13:15. | |
would have liked to ask him if he could forgive them. A good question | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
for eight all a lot interview with the Archbishop. Thank you both very | :13:21. | :13:26. | |
much. We will be back again in Endatime for another look at the | :13:27. | :13:32. | |
newspapers and we might have some more front pages by them. At 11pm, | :13:33. | :13:40. | |
Brussels is on high alert after receiving intelligence on a possible | :13:41. | :13:42. | |
attack with weapons and explosives, | :13:43. | :13:43. |