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He thought he might never fight again.

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But now he's won the WBA World light-weight title.

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He stopped the Columbian Darleys Perez in the fifth round, in front

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Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.

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With me are Angela Knight, former Conservative minister and corporate

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advisor, and Dave Wooding, Political Editor of the Sun on Sunday.

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The Observer reports security chiefs are warning Britain's counter-terror

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forces must be boosted if they are to cope with a Paris-style attack.

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The Sunday Telegraph says Britain looks set to join air strikes

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against Islamic State targets in Syria by Christmas.

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The Sunday Times says action could be taken as early as two weeks

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The Sunday Express also leads with Syria and says senior

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generals believe a full-scale offensive would wipe IS

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The Independent on Sunday asks 'where do we go from here?'

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with Britain's response to the threat from terrorism.

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And the Mail leads on ongoing allegations centred

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on a bullying scandal within the Conservative party.

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The Sunday Telegraph talking about Britain preparing for war. Bombing

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Syria? Depending on the House of Commons? I suspect they are going to

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vote for that, because we do need to do something. But it cannot just be

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bombing. But this of the past, going to Iraq, we need the partners,

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France, Russia, we need this concerted warfare, but also thinking

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about the start, and the Sunday about the start, and the Sunday

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Telegraph has got this extraordinary map. It is showing the part of

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Syria, and the location, under the control of Islamic State. Also, the

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surrounding countries, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, we cannot allow

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those tales to continue. Do you think the mood has changed? We

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constantly talk about bombing Syria. We're talking with the regime, this

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is not what has happened with Iraq, is not what has happened with Iraq,

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this is a different scenario. This is the issue. Who is going to be the

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enemy. I think the mood has been changing. David Cameron is going to

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be going to Palestinian meeting Francois Hollande. -- David Cameron

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is going to be going to Paris, and is going to be giving his plan, I

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think that will pave the way for the vote. Paris itself, absolutely. Last

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week, one of the issues, making sure that they have this thing lined up.

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Do they call it an exit strategy, the Taylors, the extremism, the end

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game. And the thing about the end game. Everybody has got different

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objectives. Iranians, Russians, the Syrian government. Turkey. I've

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attached to agree. Compromise is going to have to take place. We

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forget that the Kurds have been brave. Done well. The commentary,

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from some of the former generals. Why do we not looked at the Syrians,

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to see who could be changed. Interesting. It has a valid point.

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We can move on. Labour split widens. These are actually, do you see that?

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Yesterday, Jeremy Corbyn was still as posing, -- espousing, and it is

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looking increasingly that Jeremy Corbyn is going to be the one rebel.

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This Shadow Cabinet, privately, are going to be willingly to vote for

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this. All these reasonable measures. They want to defeat Isil. If that is

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part of the plan, as has been explained, that would make it a

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legal war. But the problem for David Cameron, the Scottish National

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Party. UK security chiefs in a showdown with Jeremy Corbyn. Nobody

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wants these cuts. But we have got some visibility, I do not think it

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is going to be cut and dried. We are going to have some blood on the

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carpet. And now... It is this Conservative seat, that has been

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saved. 14,000 majority. Some of them, deeply concerned that the

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unthinkable could happen. The concerns, Jeremy Corbyn talking

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about London centric issues, and basically, they do not let him

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according to the Labour MPs. Redeeming people, -- on the Blair

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wing? I have been speaking to some of the new intakes, perturbed about

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Jeremy Corbyn's stance. And you think that Ukip could be benefiting?

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I come from the North of England, but I can absolutely see why you

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have written that article. He will not be appealing, thinking it is

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somebody who was in a different sort of bubble. I can just see them

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moving across to Ukip. Rotherham has been one of those seats, and the big

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vote for Ukip at the general election. You have the leadership,

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as one pleases, and the list of them, sombreros. But Corbyn got a

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majority. And he keeps telling us to the MPs. Some of them worried about

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that. The momentum, Ed Miliband actually said I bet you thought it

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was not going to get any worse. Are they going to wait weeks? December

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the thought. -- third. The Chancellor has said, Britain has got

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the mojo back. Economic security, just as important as the physical

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security. Interesting articles. It is still going to be a difficult

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week. But good at pulling some of the good pieces, it's out there. It

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is not just a 5 year term, seven year. If you are going to do that,

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you have to limit the public spending, because the state has

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ballooned, and the wound. But not getting the targets. Some people

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thought he was not going to be in this position. Assuming it was going

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to be the quality. But not getting the targets. Doing some of what he

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said. But the timetable could be wrong. Some of the things that have

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affected us, as far as the economy has happened, but they somebody ever

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wanted to say, what has he done, look at the growth. Very few

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countries, have drawn when the United Kingdom out of the recession.

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He has done a lot. Corbyn said we are the antiausterity party. We are

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going to be watching, to see what happens, and we have seen in these

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pieces, it is going to be about security. With national security, in

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everybody's thoughts, it is a message that is going to resonate.

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His own political future, does he would sit to be the heir to Cameron?

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Tax credits? It was strange, this omnishambles budget. Is not a good

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moment. But he has done some good work. The last budget, seen as a

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success. Tax credits have put, pulled the rug out from under him.

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Interesting dynamic. The work is going to be an Theresa May's patch!

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Still has not done a deal. I think there's going to find his way. And

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politicians have said, I am anti-austerity, I think that is just

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walking away from responsibility. But is anybody pro austerity? Of

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course not. Somebody has got to pay for that. I think, standing up,

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seeing anti-austerity cuts that is poor. The Telegraph. The Archbishop

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of Canterbury. Where is God in Paris victim's time of need? Islamic State

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film of certainty, and you have got the reader of the religious faith,

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having doubts? I am glad he has said that. You look at these things

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taking place, Paris was horrific, and you do think, hang on? How can

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this happen? If there is a guiding force... Many of us do believe that.

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But to see the leader of the Church of England, telling us he can have

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doubts, I think that is a good approach. Comforting. I do not think

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it detracts from him. TS Elliot said the important thing about religion

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is not the quality of these but the quality of doubt. I have covered

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many of disasters, and it is a question, when you see these

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things, it does strike you. How can you do this? That is going to chime

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with people. The Sunday Times... Ladybird books written for adults.

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Joining the fitness club, spending ?200, and the husband, useless. Who

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is this aimed at? The Christmas market? One of my friends bought

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one. I am not entirely sure who it was bought for. But we're reading it

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on the train and it was the ladies. -- hilarious. The husband, runs on

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beer. The fitness club, trying all of these things. ?600 annual

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membership, each visit costing ?200. It is good to have something good to

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laugh at. But the book of the hangover? Banana and a glass of

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water. Wonder who put it there! And mindfulness. It has taught him to

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live in the moment, his studio in the Peak District. These are good

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stocking fillers. The printed several million, more than Fifty

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Shades of Grey. This is one of these, you want the physical book.

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That isn't. Look at tomorrow's front pages every

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evening at 1030 and 1130 here on BBC

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