23/11/2015 The Papers


23/11/2015

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proceedings against them on grubs in charges. -- Fifa president Sepp

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Blatter. And David hey is returning to boxing, again. That is coming up

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in 15 minutes, after the newspapers. -- David Haye.

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Welcome to the look ahead to what the newspapers will be bringing us

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tomorrow. With me are the writer, broadcaster, all-round good egg (!)

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, Natalie Haynes, and... Some hack from the independent LAUGHTER

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... James Cusick, political correspondent. This is what we are

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looking at: I would have thought that would be a

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serious threat! Any suggestion of a missile attack! Financial Times,

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Trident costs up by ?6 billion, David Cameron boosting military and

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targeting terrorism. Expensive having an independent nuclear

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deterrent. This week, the message from George Osborne for a large

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number of Godman department is going to be, less, but military spending,

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apparently the message is, more. More equipment, more frigates, more

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surveillance aircraft, and rising costs, some 6 billion. This is not

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the overall cost of the project, this is the cost of the boats. It

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has gone from 25 billion, now a further 6 billion, and then a

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contingency fund of a further 10 billion just in case the sums are

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right. The overall cost of the project, anything from 100 billion

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up to 106 the 7 billion... These billions are really beginning to add

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up! It is not that you question the sums or the ability of the

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calculators... It is just that, you know, it would be better if there

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was a bit more precision in this. Precision is difficult, you are

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procuring this kind of stuff so far in advance, that costs always end up

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spiralling. They certainly seem to, but by a huge percentage, 6 billion,

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25 billion, that is almost a quarter. If the whole thing worked

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at the cheaper end of the scale over the next 30 years, which is 100

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billion, not just submarines and missiles, but the whole budget, and

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that increased on the same amount that the submarines have so far,

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that would add another 24 billion to the whole thing. When you look, as

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we will in a minute, at the amount of money given to the NHS, it makes

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you realise, these numbers... You cannot sweep it under the carpet, 24

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billion, 25 billion, the difference between those sums is ?1 billion!

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That is a huge amount of money! Hurley Telegraph, 6 billion boost

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for the NHS, some more big figures. -- Daily Telegraph. Any introduction

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I said, a tip-off, somebody has briefed journalists at the Telegraph

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that that is going to be in the spending we view. The numbers from

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every newspaper are different, 6 billion, according to the Telegraph.

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Going into the NHS because of the deepening financial crisis. An extra

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3.8 billion going into the NHS, the Guardian, says 3.8. They are all

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very different sums, and whether or not it is new money, we sat with

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some pens... It was practically a maths lesson. You need an abacus!

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LAUGHTER We got it to 6.1 billion, the

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closest we could get to the Telegraph, once we added up all of

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the Guardian's numbers. There is going to be more cash. During the

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election, you may remember that, not... Earlier this year... You may

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have blanked it out. Why would I have done that (!) there was big

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promise of an extra 10 billion before 2020, that was one of the

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policies, they were promising there would be extra spending. Let's just

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say that the crisis in the NHS has arrived, the first winter it has

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arrived. And the money... It looks as if the money has been

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front-loaded. My guess, if this amount of money simply deals with a

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crisis this year, and is not part of a long-term cure, then this exercise

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may have to be repeated a number of times, and I don't know how much

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cash the Treasury have at the moment. Again, when every buddy else

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is told less, at least, the NHS, which is no bad thing. Going to the

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Guardian, Osborne finds 3.8 billion a year to help to combat the NHS

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winter crisis. Didn't the NHS say they needed 8 billion a year, just

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to stand still? Sounds like not getting enough money, when you read

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it that way. The Guardian announced numbers this way, 3.8 billion a year

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in 16, 17. A further 1.5 billion in 1718, that got us to 5.3... Plus,

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I'm guessing, to get us to six, and it is a guess, in the third

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column... It suggests he will be raiding funds for student nurses.

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And student nurse loans, 120 million, that gets us to 6.1

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billion. That is the way that they have done it. That is how the

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Telegraph have got there. They love sums were they just love sums. You

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are helping them out, helping them out. Very interesting yet, the i,

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Britain wants out of Europe, exclusive shock poll. Not that long

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ago it was the reverse of this, the majority were in favour of staying,

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we have had a summer of refugee images, horrific images, beginning

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to question, if you like, the security of the borders of the Duke,

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this is probably a knock on from that, the stuff from Paris last week

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would not have helped. David Cameron, the Prime Minister, will

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win the Syria vote, next week, you would think, this particular vote

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must be worrying Downing Street. I would have thought, you should start

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a campaign ahead, if you start the campaign behind, then it is going to

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be very difficult. There is a lot of figures here which are slightly

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strange, this is turning into a numbers game. We should ring Johnny

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Ball! LAUGHTER Showing your age! 69% of 18 to

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24-year-olds wants to remain in the EU. 38% of 65 and over wants to. The

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way it looks, if he wishes to change these numbers, he has got to address

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the young vote, the 18 to 24. As we were discussing earlier, that is

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almost the group that are slightly distant from the government at the

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moment. He has got to focus upon this because it is unlikely that the

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older end are going to change their mind, if this vote is held next

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year. Briefly, those images which elicited a lot of sympathy from the

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British public, has that gone out of the window because one bloke decided

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he was going to make off with a Syrian passport and then attacked a

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bar, a club, whatever it was in Paris? The short answer, kind of,

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yes! These numbers were good through June, July and September, the same

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poll was carried out right the way through the summer, picture after

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picture of dead children, people hanging off the side of boats, all

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over the newspapers, and the same numbers existed, 52% saying, 55%

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saying we should stay, 45% saying we should leave, and the week after

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Paris, those numbers have reversed. Briefly, Daily Telegraph, invitation

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for 25,000 to join the Queen's 90th birthday party, ?75 a pop!

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Invitation is a strong word, you need to have the cash! This is a

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birthday party we have got to pay for as well? ! I have got a free

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seat, anyway (!) you are worth it, you are worth it! LAUGHTER

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OK, enough, enough, you will be back in an hour's time, hopefully we will

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more time. That went very quickly. Stay with us now, on BBC News, it is

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time for sports day.

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