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how England's cricketers beat Pakistan in Dubai. That is coming up

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in Sportsday in the next 15 minutes, straight after the papers.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers

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With me are Craig Woodhouse, chief political correspondent at

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the Sun and Rowena Mason, political correspondent at the Guardian.

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Tomorrow's front pages, starting with the Times, which leads on

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Labour's split over bombing in Syria.

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It says Jeremy Corbyn's opposition has plunged him into the biggest

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The Telegraph also splashes on the turmoil

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in Labour over whether to back air strikes on Islamic State targets.

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The Syria vote leads the Guardian too. They say David Cameron is

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"Cameron's ready for war, but is Britain?"

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is the question posed by the Daily Mirror.

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The Independent features the kneeling figure

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of a man condemned to death in Saudi Arabia, one of 50 who will

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"Will Britain protest?" the paper asks.

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In the Express, there is hope for sufferers of arthritis. An

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injection to ease their agony could be on the way within five years.

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As net migration hits a record high, the Daily Mail says it could lead

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to an out vote in the forthcoming referendum over

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And the Sun says the increase in new arrivals mean our green and pleasant

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Let's begin with a couple of the papers which are leading on the same

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sort of story, and that is the turmoil within Labour over this vote

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on striking against Syria. The Times has it, Labour at war over vote to

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bomb ISIS. Frontbench resignations threatened. Labour at war over

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airstrikes in Syria. We have just heard as we were coming back on air

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that Jeremy Corbyn has pulled out of visiting Oldham to campaign in the

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local by-election, this is because of necessary engagements in London

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so we are all starting to wonder quite what these engagements are. I

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wonder whether that consists of standing up and sacking all those

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who opposed him, who say that he is utterly wrong and that they need to

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keep written say. The strongest player he could make is to say you

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guys don't agree with me, I'm the leader, few pop. Whether he could

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fill all those chairs if he purged his Cabinet is another matter

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because we're not sure how many agree with him or how many agree

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with the rebel faction led by the Shadow Foreign Secretary and Tom

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Watson, the deputy party leader. It is an almighty mess that Labour have

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managed to get themselves into the day when we are talking about

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potentially going to war in foreign country. It must be an extraordinary

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time to be reporting on politics for people like you. As Craig says, we

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are not headlining the airstrikes itself but what is happening in the

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opposition. It is remarkable, and these two front pages are very

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similar, The Times in the Independent are very similar, Labour

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at war over the airstrikes. There is another possible way out for Jeremy

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Corbyn if he does not sack his Shadow Cabinet. He could just offer

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them a free vote. That is potentially the best thing for him

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to do now. Even though he has said he wants a collective position on

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Syria, he is not going to get it. So that is possibly his best option.

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The problem with a free vote is a lot of the Shadow Cabinet rebels see

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it as making the Labour Party look like it can't make its mind up on an

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issue of war, which is a terrible signal to send to the public. The

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other thing is if he was going to offer a free vote he could have done

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so three weeks ago, avoiding all of this mess. He was meant to be

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believed in by his team, and they believe in him. Yukka of poll

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suggested that 70% of Labour Party members -- A YouGov poll. The Labour

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Party should be listening to the membership, which would seem to put

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them in line with the leader of the party. Yes, except to win the

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general election you don't just need Labour voters. Let's not forget

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Labour had a terrible share of the vote in the most recent general

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election and if the aim of a political party is to end up in

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government it needs to reach out and if it is not prepared to do that and

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it might as well go off into the fringes. We are 4.5 years away from

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that. What? Find me a political strategist who thinks you can

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rebuild the party's reputation on an issue of War and peace in four

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years, I don't think it is possible. That is why we are still talking

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about Tony Blair in Iraq. Labour Party is still tainted by that. But

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they did go to war. But you can't turn this around in four years,

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impossible. Cameron is ready for war, is Britain? Commons divided as

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case for war in Syria is raised. We have seen those conservatives oppose

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the airstrikes tee years ago now much more inclined to vote for them.

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We have an action got a vote yet, have we? That is absolutely true.

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One interesting case is Crispin Blunt, the chairman of the Foreign

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Affairs Committee. Only a few weeks ago his committee released a very

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sceptical report questioning the justification for airstrikes and he

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stood up in the Commons today and said he actually now believes the

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case has been made by Cameron. So that might have swung a few of the

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waverers in the Conservative Party behind him, and also a few of the

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Labour side as well. But when we had the debate at the UN, and that

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resolution put forward by France, it was to use all means necessary to

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combat Islamic State. At the moment we are talking about airstrikes, but

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how much further might some kind of intervention have to go before we

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get to a diplomatic solution? Cameron was clear in the Commons

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today, as have been most experts, you are not going to defeat Islamic

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State purely from the air. It will have to require some ground effort.

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The West are understandably incredibly nervous about launching a

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ground operation in Syria. Indeed, David Cameron, as there are no plans

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for British boots on the ground, nor will there be a plan for British

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boots on the ground. The issue is, at the moment there are 70,000

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freedom fighters knocking around in Syria who might do the job for us.

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Firstly, that is not quite enough, secondly, that -- they are not in

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the right place, and thirdly, are they going to take our orders? Only

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by building country by country are we going to get this. Let's move on

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and talk about the Sun. I told you it might be all right once we got

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started. Green and pleasant crammed. Immigration figures, net

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immigration of 336,000 people, but they are coming from within the EU

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so there is not much you can do about it even if you wanted to. This

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is the most embarrassing him for David Cameron who promised to get

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immigration down to the tens of thousands. As someone pointed out,

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336,000 is lots of tens of thousands. More than half are coming

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from outside the EU, but it we are meant to be able to control. So it

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is a real mess, and very embarrassing to David Cameron. And

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it is hard to see how this comes down. Because everything we have

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tried so far isn't working. We need to make Britain less popular

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destination, and that wouldn't be good for any of us, would it? I

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suppose that is what argument, it is not an argument that is taken by

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people in the tourist industry, I'm sure. Well, the truth of the matter

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is most of these people are coming in for work. They are either coming

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here because they've got jobs, about 64% of them, or they are coming here

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to find work. It is because our economy is roaring ahead while other

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economies are not doing very well. So that is the reason they are

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coming here. The one thing the government will never tell you or

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don't shout very loudly, but think-tanks do, is that actually

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part of the reason our GDP is soaring ahead is because we have so

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many immigrants coming here and working. So there is this kind of

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bizarre thing that George Osborne might stand up and say our GDP is

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going to be this much higher in the future. This is part of the reason

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why. But the Daily Mail looks at the potential backlash, as it sees it.

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Migration crisis could push the UK out of Europe. A stark warning from

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the Foreign Secretary. Well, the thing about immigration is that it

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is tied in so closely the arguments about the European Union now, and

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there are definite worries in Number 10 and the wider Cabinet that the

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migrant crisis in Europe, and the sort of breakdown of the sort of

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freedom of movement throughout the EU is going to have a real effect on

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the EU referendum when we have it in 2017. When we finally have it. It is

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up to the politicians to make the argument whichever way, isn't it?

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Yes, and this is what Hammond was saying in Rome yesterday. What he

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was trying to say to other European leaders is look, if you don't give

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us what we want in terms of tightening migrant benefits, then

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Britain might leave. He wasn't saying because 386,000 people were

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coming to the UK we might leave, he was using this as a stick to beat

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Europe because they don't like our idea of blocking European migrants

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being able to claim benefits for four years. Telegraph, patients

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unable to claim benefits. What is new about this headline? Not a

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massive amount, although the problem is getting worse. What is

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significant is the row over the NHS. So this is a very timely

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intervention from the National Audit Office who found one in ten people

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can't get an appointment when they want to. There is a real postcode

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lottery out there. Everard is finding it inconvenient, and GPs are

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stretched partly because of the stories we are talking about --

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everyone. At the government will seize on this and say it is yet more

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evidence about why we need to build a truly seven-day a week NHS. Is

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that why? Many are leaving as well. That is part of the problem, and

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there are huge strains on money in the NHS. George Osborne is trying to

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head some of that off by promising extra billions for the service over

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the next four years in his Spending Review. But there are sort of these

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signs that things are very stretched at the moment. GPs, this is one of

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them. There is also the risk of an accident and emergency winter crisis

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which could happen later in the year. On the FT, ?1 billion raid

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with move to make Whitehall pay market rates. If you are in a fancy

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building you will have to pay more to use it, even if you are a

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government department. That is the thrust of it, isn't it it is quite

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an audacious thing for the Treasury to do, really. It is basically

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asking its own departments to pay it back for the space that they use,

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which are government buildings anyway. You have to think that they

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must be trying to make government departments downsize, make sure they

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are using the space efficiently, perhaps even move out the outer

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parts of London. They will all be squashed. It is one of the more

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bizarre moves in yesterday's Autumn Statement, this creation of a

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government property unit which is all of a sudden going to be granted

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control over all of those marvellous ministries in a bid to make the

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relevant ministers use their space more efficiently. Whether it means

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renting out office space, I don't want to see all the government

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departments move out to Croydon or Salford or whatever. I think there

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is something quite special about them all being concentrated in

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Whitehall. And easier for you. Go back easier for me, but it adds a

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special feel to the place. The voice in my ear wonders whether the

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Treasury will charge itself. It is going to, to the tune of ?30 million

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a year. There you go, you don't have to read the paper now, do you? How

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long have we got? About one minute. The Times, ?1 billion Black Friday

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hinge. -- binge. This is some kind of American invention that wasn't

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part of British culture of years ago, and now we see people fighting

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in the streets to get a TV they don't want. Some shops have written

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back, having been part of it a few years ago, they now say they do not

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want anything to do with it. I think ASDA brought it over from the UK to

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America -- from America to the UK, and has cancelled it. Maybe that is

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a marketing ploy in itself, some shoppers might had there to try and

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get some peace and quiet. Exercise caution, we are warned, or avoid the

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shops completely. Wear body armour, if last year is anything to go by. I

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wouldn't go anywhere near it, a scrum for Christmas Hagens. So if

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you were hoping for a present from Craig this Christmas you might be

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out of luck. Even if you are busy on Monday, there is something happening

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in the Labour Party. You are going nowhere. That is it for the papers

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this hour. Coming up next, assume in Ollie is in his chair, Sportsday.

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