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in Sportsday in the next 15 minutes, straight after the papers.


Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers


With me are Craig Woodhouse, chief political correspondent at


the Sun and Rowena Mason, political correspondent at the Guardian.


Tomorrow's front pages, starting with the Times, which leads on


Labour's split over bombing in Syria.


It says Jeremy Corbyn's opposition has plunged him into the biggest


The Telegraph also splashes on the turmoil


in Labour over whether to back air strikes on Islamic State targets.


The Syria vote leads the Guardian too. They say David Cameron is


"Cameron's ready for war, but is Britain?"


is the question posed by the Daily Mirror.


The Independent features the kneeling figure


of a man condemned to death in Saudi Arabia, one of 50 who will


"Will Britain protest?" the paper asks.


In the Express, there is hope for sufferers of arthritis. An


injection to ease their agony could be on the way within five years.


As net migration hits a record high, the Daily Mail says it could lead


to an out vote in the forthcoming referendum over


And the Sun says the increase in new arrivals mean our green and pleasant


Let's begin with a couple of the papers which are leading on the same


sort of story, and that is the turmoil within Labour over this vote


on striking against Syria. The Times has it, Labour at war over vote to


bomb ISIS. Frontbench resignations threatened. Labour at war over


airstrikes in Syria. We have just heard as we were coming back on air


that Jeremy Corbyn has pulled out of visiting Oldham to campaign in the


local by-election, this is because of necessary engagements in London


so we are all starting to wonder quite what these engagements are. I


wonder whether that consists of standing up and sacking all those


who opposed him, who say that he is utterly wrong and that they need to


keep written say. The strongest player he could make is to say you


guys don't agree with me, I'm the leader, few pop. Whether he could


fill all those chairs if he purged his Cabinet is another matter


because we're not sure how many agree with him or how many agree


with the rebel faction led by the Shadow Foreign Secretary and Tom


Watson, the deputy party leader. It is an almighty mess that Labour have


managed to get themselves into the day when we are talking about


potentially going to war in foreign country. It must be an extraordinary


time to be reporting on politics for people like you. As Craig says, we


are not headlining the airstrikes itself but what is happening in the


opposition. It is remarkable, and these two front pages are very


similar, The Times in the Independent are very similar, Labour


at war over the airstrikes. There is another possible way out for Jeremy


Corbyn if he does not sack his Shadow Cabinet. He could just offer


them a free vote. That is potentially the best thing for him


to do now. Even though he has said he wants a collective position on


Syria, he is not going to get it. So that is possibly his best option.


The problem with a free vote is a lot of the Shadow Cabinet rebels see


it as making the Labour Party look like it can't make its mind up on an


issue of war, which is a terrible signal to send to the public. The


other thing is if he was going to offer a free vote he could have done


so three weeks ago, avoiding all of this mess. He was meant to be


believed in by his team, and they believe in him. Yukka of poll


suggested that 70% of Labour Party members -- A YouGov poll. The Labour


Party should be listening to the membership, which would seem to put


them in line with the leader of the party. Yes, except to win the


general election you don't just need Labour voters. Let's not forget


Labour had a terrible share of the vote in the most recent general


election and if the aim of a political party is to end up in


government it needs to reach out and if it is not prepared to do that and


it might as well go off into the fringes. We are 4.5 years away from


that. What? Find me a political strategist who thinks you can


rebuild the party's reputation on an issue of War and peace in four


years, I don't think it is possible. That is why we are still talking


about Tony Blair in Iraq. Labour Party is still tainted by that. But


they did go to war. But you can't turn this around in four years,


impossible. Cameron is ready for war, is Britain? Commons divided as


case for war in Syria is raised. We have seen those conservatives oppose


the airstrikes tee years ago now much more inclined to vote for them.


We have an action got a vote yet, have we? That is absolutely true.


One interesting case is Crispin Blunt, the chairman of the Foreign


Affairs Committee. Only a few weeks ago his committee released a very


sceptical report questioning the justification for airstrikes and he


stood up in the Commons today and said he actually now believes the


case has been made by Cameron. So that might have swung a few of the


waverers in the Conservative Party behind him, and also a few of the


Labour side as well. But when we had the debate at the UN, and that


resolution put forward by France, it was to use all means necessary to


combat Islamic State. At the moment we are talking about airstrikes, but


how much further might some kind of intervention have to go before we


get to a diplomatic solution? Cameron was clear in the Commons


today, as have been most experts, you are not going to defeat Islamic


State purely from the air. It will have to require some ground effort.


The West are understandably incredibly nervous about launching a


ground operation in Syria. Indeed, David Cameron, as there are no plans


for British boots on the ground, nor will there be a plan for British


boots on the ground. The issue is, at the moment there are 70,000


freedom fighters knocking around in Syria who might do the job for us.


Firstly, that is not quite enough, secondly, that -- they are not in


the right place, and thirdly, are they going to take our orders? Only


by building country by country are we going to get this. Let's move on


and talk about the Sun. I told you it might be all right once we got


started. Green and pleasant crammed. Immigration figures, net


immigration of 336,000 people, but they are coming from within the EU


so there is not much you can do about it even if you wanted to. This


is the most embarrassing him for David Cameron who promised to get


immigration down to the tens of thousands. As someone pointed out,


336,000 is lots of tens of thousands. More than half are coming


from outside the EU, but it we are meant to be able to control. So it


is a real mess, and very embarrassing to David Cameron. And


it is hard to see how this comes down. Because everything we have


tried so far isn't working. We need to make Britain less popular


destination, and that wouldn't be good for any of us, would it? I


suppose that is what argument, it is not an argument that is taken by


people in the tourist industry, I'm sure. Well, the truth of the matter


is most of these people are coming in for work. They are either coming


here because they've got jobs, about 64% of them, or they are coming here


to find work. It is because our economy is roaring ahead while other


economies are not doing very well. So that is the reason they are


coming here. The one thing the government will never tell you or


don't shout very loudly, but think-tanks do, is that actually


part of the reason our GDP is soaring ahead is because we have so


many immigrants coming here and working. So there is this kind of


bizarre thing that George Osborne might stand up and say our GDP is


going to be this much higher in the future. This is part of the reason


why. But the Daily Mail looks at the potential backlash, as it sees it.


Migration crisis could push the UK out of Europe. A stark warning from


the Foreign Secretary. Well, the thing about immigration is that it


is tied in so closely the arguments about the European Union now, and


there are definite worries in Number 10 and the wider Cabinet that the


migrant crisis in Europe, and the sort of breakdown of the sort of


freedom of movement throughout the EU is going to have a real effect on


the EU referendum when we have it in 2017. When we finally have it. It is


up to the politicians to make the argument whichever way, isn't it?


Yes, and this is what Hammond was saying in Rome yesterday. What he


was trying to say to other European leaders is look, if you don't give


us what we want in terms of tightening migrant benefits, then


Britain might leave. He wasn't saying because 386,000 people were


coming to the UK we might leave, he was using this as a stick to beat


Europe because they don't like our idea of blocking European migrants


being able to claim benefits for four years. Telegraph, patients


unable to claim benefits. What is new about this headline? Not a


massive amount, although the problem is getting worse. What is


significant is the row over the NHS. So this is a very timely


intervention from the National Audit Office who found one in ten people


can't get an appointment when they want to. There is a real postcode


lottery out there. Everard is finding it inconvenient, and GPs are


stretched partly because of the stories we are talking about --


everyone. At the government will seize on this and say it is yet more


evidence about why we need to build a truly seven-day a week NHS. Is


that why? Many are leaving as well. That is part of the problem, and


there are huge strains on money in the NHS. George Osborne is trying to


head some of that off by promising extra billions for the service over


the next four years in his Spending Review. But there are sort of these


signs that things are very stretched at the moment. GPs, this is one of


them. There is also the risk of an accident and emergency winter crisis


which could happen later in the year. On the FT, ?1 billion raid


with move to make Whitehall pay market rates. If you are in a fancy


building you will have to pay more to use it, even if you are a


government department. That is the thrust of it, isn't it it is quite


an audacious thing for the Treasury to do, really. It is basically


asking its own departments to pay it back for the space that they use,


which are government buildings anyway. You have to think that they


must be trying to make government departments downsize, make sure they


are using the space efficiently, perhaps even move out the outer


parts of London. They will all be squashed. It is one of the more


bizarre moves in yesterday's Autumn Statement, this creation of a


government property unit which is all of a sudden going to be granted


control over all of those marvellous ministries in a bid to make the


relevant ministers use their space more efficiently. Whether it means


renting out office space, I don't want to see all the government


departments move out to Croydon or Salford or whatever. I think there


is something quite special about them all being concentrated in


Whitehall. And easier for you. Go back easier for me, but it adds a


special feel to the place. The voice in my ear wonders whether the


Treasury will charge itself. It is going to, to the tune of ?30 million


a year. There you go, you don't have to read the paper now, do you? How


long have we got? About one minute. The Times, ?1 billion Black Friday


hinge. -- binge. This is some kind of American invention that wasn't


part of British culture of years ago, and now we see people fighting


in the streets to get a TV they don't want. Some shops have written


back, having been part of it a few years ago, they now say they do not


want anything to do with it. I think ASDA brought it over from the UK to


America -- from America to the UK, and has cancelled it. Maybe that is


a marketing ploy in itself, some shoppers might had there to try and


get some peace and quiet. Exercise caution, we are warned, or avoid the


shops completely. Wear body armour, if last year is anything to go by. I


wouldn't go anywhere near it, a scrum for Christmas Hagens. So if


you were hoping for a present from Craig this Christmas you might be


out of luck. Even if you are busy on Monday, there is something happening


in the Labour Party. You are going nowhere. That is it for the papers


this hour. Coming up next, assume in Ollie is in his chair, Sportsday.


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