27/11/2015 The Papers


27/11/2015

No need to wait to see what's in the papers - Martine Croxall presents a lively and informed conversation about the next day's headlines.


Similar Content

Browse content similar to 27/11/2015. Check below for episodes and series from the same categories and more!

Transcript


LineFromTo

also have the rugby results and a look at some winter sports action.

:00:00.:00:00.

That is after The Papers. Hello and welcome to our look

:00:00.:00:18.

ahead to what the papers With me are David Torrance,

:00:19.:00:21.

columnist for the Herald, and the writer and broadcaster,

:00:22.:00:24.

Alice Arnold. Many of the front pages

:00:25.:00:32.

are already in. The Independent leads with claims

:00:33.:00:34.

by four senior Labour MPs that Jeremy Corbyn's leadership is

:00:35.:00:37.

"unsustainable". The same story is on the front

:00:38.:00:38.

of the Times which says that senior Labour figures have sought

:00:39.:00:41.

legal advice as they plot unprecedented discounts

:00:42.:00:43.

until Christmas in the Telegraph. The Mail also focuses on Black

:00:44.:00:52.

Friday but says it was a flop on the The Daily Mirror prints

:00:53.:00:56.

a letter to Father Christmas from seven-year-old Christian

:00:57.:01:00.

Hickey who was shot on his doorstep. We have to start with Jeremy Corbyn

:01:01.:01:17.

who is on the front of many of the front pages. Here is The

:01:18.:01:28.

Independent's headline. The left winger is accused of putting the

:01:29.:01:32.

party in a terrible mess. We should be talking about the prospect of

:01:33.:01:35.

people in the comments by air strikes on Syria, but no. It has

:01:36.:01:42.

three when the spotlight back on to Labour. The Independent has Labour

:01:43.:01:48.

MPs breaking cover and calling for Jeremy Corbyn to go. It seems as

:01:49.:01:52.

though things have come to the crunch point and this has been often

:01:53.:01:56.

predicted since Jeremy Corbyn became the reader. It has not taken long?

:01:57.:02:03.

No, but it shows you how unpredictable politics is. The

:02:04.:02:08.

attacks in Paris and throw in the Labour Party into turmoil. The focus

:02:09.:02:13.

is on splits and the split is multilayered. There is a split

:02:14.:02:17.

between Corbin and the parliamentary party and the parliamentary party

:02:18.:02:21.

and the Labour membership and between the party and the general

:02:22.:02:29.

voting public. It is complicated. Hilary Benn was suggesting that it

:02:30.:02:33.

was complicated but they can come to some accommodation editors it is a I

:02:34.:02:38.

am not sure what Jeremy Corbyn is meant to do about this because he

:02:39.:02:42.

doesn't think that we should be sending air strikes into Syria. He

:02:43.:02:46.

is the Leader of the Opposition and the government think that we should

:02:47.:02:51.

be. It seems to me that as the Leader of the Opposition that is a

:02:52.:02:54.

reasonable position to hold and it is a position held by many members

:02:55.:03:00.

of the Labour Party, so he may be representing his Shadow Cabinet but

:03:01.:03:02.

he probably is representing members of his party and and every Mac --

:03:03.:03:14.

and a free vote is probably the way he will have to go. Otherwise people

:03:15.:03:21.

will think he is representing them. The party and the Cabinet is split.

:03:22.:03:28.

The Times says there is a secret bid to get rid of Jeremy Corbyn and they

:03:29.:03:32.

have been told that they can dump their leader. Do they not just need

:03:33.:03:38.

to have the vote to get rid of him? They have to make sure he is not on

:03:39.:03:42.

the ballot because they get on the ballot there is every chance that he

:03:43.:03:48.

get re-elected. They need to find someone to lead instead. Not an

:03:49.:03:56.

obvious one. The lack of an obvious and compelling alternative could

:03:57.:04:00.

sustain Jeremy Corbyn for longer, but there is a precedent for

:04:01.:04:05.

political geeks like me. In 1980 new clinic was challenged by Tony Benn

:04:06.:04:12.

for the leadership and Neil Kinnock wiped the floor on that occasion.

:04:13.:04:17.

The fear is that they as Tim and then he is re-elected because he is

:04:18.:04:22.

extremely popular with Labour Party members, all the polling shows that.

:04:23.:04:27.

No one is named in any of these articles. No one is mentioned in any

:04:28.:04:37.

of them. The Daily Mirror has an exclusive poll showing that the PM

:04:38.:04:40.

has failed to convince people about war in Syria. If David Cameron has

:04:41.:04:48.

managed to convince people then they are supporting what Jeremy Corbyn is

:04:49.:04:51.

saying, that there is not a good reason to carry out these air

:04:52.:04:54.

strikes because it might make things worse for us here. For all the

:04:55.:05:00.

difficulties the Jeremy Corbyn is getting, he is more closely aligned

:05:01.:05:03.

with public opinion than the Prime Minister. It is early days and the

:05:04.:05:09.

vote may not be told next week, but the polling so far, and a detailed

:05:10.:05:13.

one in the mirror, shows that the majority of people are not convinced

:05:14.:05:18.

that we should go for air strikes and 59% think that if we do it will

:05:19.:05:22.

increase the risk of terrorist attacks in the UK, which is an

:05:23.:05:29.

important point. 59% of men want to go for air strikes that only 38% of

:05:30.:05:35.

women. That did not take me by surprise. We have seen the

:05:36.:05:39.

intelligence, we know what the threat is. We have been there before

:05:40.:05:46.

and we know. The general public are not hugely in favour of this and

:05:47.:05:53.

someone needs to represent them, maybe Jeremy Corbyn is doing that.

:05:54.:06:02.

The SNP will be against. That has been very consistent. Nicola

:06:03.:06:09.

Sturgeon said she wasn't listening mode and rather not last very long

:06:10.:06:12.

and now they will march into the no lobby. One of the papers shows that

:06:13.:06:21.

20 Tory MPs who were potentially going to be Dell have fallen into

:06:22.:06:30.

line. -- that were going to rebel have fallen into line. Were you

:06:31.:06:45.

tempted? I mean in the shop. There are several pages of this in the

:06:46.:06:50.

mail. It is mostly talking about what happened last year but it does

:06:51.:06:53.

talk about people queuing up in their pyjamas. I thought, how long

:06:54.:07:00.

does it take to be close on? Why would you go in your pyjamas?

:07:01.:07:04.

Perhaps this person. They were going to be in a crash and they had to be

:07:05.:07:13.

there early. Quite a lot of people work at five in the morning and

:07:14.:07:23.

managed to get dressed. Why would you go in the cold and the wet and

:07:24.:07:27.

queue outside the shop until you open it when you can do it online

:07:28.:07:33.

and have it delivered. Some shops opened early because they thought a

:07:34.:07:36.

lot of people were going to come through the door. Braehead in

:07:37.:07:42.

Glasgow opened at 5:30am and there were only 30 people waiting.

:07:43.:07:47.

Virtually no one apart from the media turned up. The journalist got

:07:48.:07:56.

some bargains but no one else. The consequence of this is that we are

:07:57.:08:00.

going to have sealed the last until Christmas, so will we need the

:08:01.:08:06.

Boxing Day sales? It is The Telegraph. Were we need the Boxing

:08:07.:08:13.

Day sales? Know one will have any money left. This is a new thing

:08:14.:08:19.

since the Black Friday thing was imported from the States, this ill

:08:20.:08:24.

start before Christmas, which is Great to want is you can do your

:08:25.:08:27.

Christmas shopping cheaper, but it does call into question whether

:08:28.:08:31.

there is any need. The New Year sales of Boxing Day, but in the old

:08:32.:08:40.

days it was New Year and January when people got rid of the winter

:08:41.:08:43.

stock. Now they may not be doing that. As someone said on Twitter

:08:44.:08:55.

earlier, they do not care, they will sell it online. Some shopping is

:08:56.:09:00.

done online and that has been general trend. Another trend has

:09:01.:09:05.

been the gradual expansion of post-Christmas sales to

:09:06.:09:08.

pre-Christmas sales and now the last month. Part of me regrets the Boxing

:09:09.:09:14.

Day sales going, it is a bit of a fixture. I used to enjoy it. I'm too

:09:15.:09:18.

old and tired for Boxing Day shopping now. But on Boxing Day you

:09:19.:09:28.

couldn't do your Christmas shopping. But is that not messing up the whole

:09:29.:09:32.

concept in prose Christmas sales start before Christmas? They will

:09:33.:09:38.

need to change the name. In the Financial Times David Cameron is

:09:39.:09:44.

under fire for green cuts. One person is saying that they should

:09:45.:09:49.

stop changing the subsidies to renewable energy as people cannot

:09:50.:09:52.

plan and does not inspire confidence. It is worth remembering

:09:53.:09:56.

that when Cameron was first Tory leader and Prime Minister he

:09:57.:10:01.

promised to be the greenest government and history, but that is

:10:02.:10:06.

a thing of the past. The basic thing is planning. Lots of companies

:10:07.:10:10.

including Tesco have signed this letter to the Prime Minister has

:10:11.:10:14.

spent years preparing beds for green funds and now we see from the

:10:15.:10:18.

comprehensive spending review that another billion pounds of money has

:10:19.:10:25.

been scrapped. All that planning has gone down the tubes and they're not

:10:26.:10:31.

happy about that. Next week we have the climate change conference and he

:10:32.:10:38.

does say repeatedly that it is incredibly dangerous and it is one

:10:39.:10:43.

of our main priorities. He did the same with wind energy and people

:10:44.:10:46.

invested in that of any he took away the tax breaks and people were

:10:47.:10:53.

left. People like security, they like to know what is going to

:10:54.:10:58.

happen. There is a gap between the rhetoric and the practice. A record

:10:59.:11:03.

number of countries have committed to some really serious cuts in their

:11:04.:11:07.

admissions, some very ambitious targets, and we are among that

:11:08.:11:09.

number, so they have to do something. The Scottish Government

:11:10.:11:18.

makes great play off its ground-breaking carbon reduction

:11:19.:11:24.

targets, but they have not met them once. It has become a cynical

:11:25.:11:28.

political trick. Make the headline commitment and it looks like you're

:11:29.:11:31.

doing something but then there is no follow-through. I expect the UK

:11:32.:11:35.

Government is going down the same route. It is easier to make the

:11:36.:11:40.

commitment that actually do it. Finally on the Financial Times,

:11:41.:11:47.

Osborne's stealthy tax White gives top football is a kick in the

:11:48.:11:54.

testimonials. Please explain. This is about testimonial matches which

:11:55.:11:56.

in the old they were held for retiring sportsmen, cricketers or

:11:57.:12:02.

footballers, who did not earn a lot and their careers and then they

:12:03.:12:07.

could earn some money in the last match to set them up in business

:12:08.:12:11.

afterwards, to give them a retirement fund because they have to

:12:12.:12:16.

retire so early. I had no idea that these were not taxed, but apparently

:12:17.:12:20.

they haven't been. Some surprise and players are getting there. Wayne

:12:21.:12:25.

Rooney is due to have his testimonial, just occasion his fault

:12:26.:12:29.

when he starts earning his salary, and is expected to raise ?2.3

:12:30.:12:35.

million. I was deeply surprised to see that they were not taxed. They

:12:36.:12:42.

are income, like a little retirement pot, but I did not know they were

:12:43.:12:48.

not taxed. But now someone in the Treasury has noticed it. It shows

:12:49.:12:54.

how counterintuitive George Osborne can be. A lot of his critics depict

:12:55.:13:00.

them as a Thatcherite, but Heery is going after wealthy people which is

:13:01.:13:04.

not with you would expect. Testimonies are still held for a

:13:05.:13:12.

county cricketer who would have a modest income I don't know what they

:13:13.:13:16.

would expect to earn. There is a detail that says they will, the new

:13:17.:13:22.

rules, take into account a lot of the proceeds can go to charity. That

:13:23.:13:29.

is what Wayne Rooney is doing. Even I wouldn't notice that.

:13:30.:13:31.

Thank you to my guests, you'll both be back at half eleven

:13:32.:13:37.

for another look at the stories making the news tomorrow.

:13:38.:13:47.

Download Subtitles

SRT

ASS