27/11/2015 The Papers


27/11/2015

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sets. Kyle Edmund took two sets before losing 3-2. We will also have

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a look at some winter sports action. That is after the papers.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers

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With me are David Torrance, columnist for the Herald and the

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writer and broadcaster, Alice Arnold.

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Tomorrow's front pages, starting with...

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The Independent leads

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with claims by four senior Labour MPs that Jeremy Corbyn's

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The same story is on the front of the Times, which says that senior

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labour figures have sought legal advice as they plot

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Shopping analysts are predicting that consumers will enjoy

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unprecedented discounts until Christmas,

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The Mail also focuses on Black Friday but says it was a flop on the

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The Daily Mirror prints a letter to Father Christmas

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from seven year old Christian Hickey who was shot on his doorstep.

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Cuts to green subsidies are under the spotlight in the FT.

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And finally The Sun's top story is that staff at Easyjet are

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on high alert after Arabic writing was found daubed beside fuel tanks

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We will be rather predictably with the Jeremy Corbyn issue and the

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plot... So many plots tonight. The Independent, the foreign secretary

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contradicting his stance on airstrikes. This story won't go

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away, we might be talking about the potential action and what it would

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look like in Syria? The actual issue might be talked about, but instead

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we are talking about the Labour Party. I think that is probably an

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agenda from some of the media outlets, to get at Jeremy Corbyn.

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They will keep doing it and looking for his weaknesses. Helped by senior

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figures. The deputy leader in the Shadow Foreign Secretary. Half the

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shadow cabinets don't agree, but presumably the other half to. The

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Independent isn't the most obvious paper to be picking at Jeremy

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Corbyn? -- Cabinet. There is a question about whether the Labour

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Party can form a solid opposition. That is a serious issue, because we

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do need one. If the Labour Party is in a terrible mess, as it says on

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the front of The Independent, maybe something has to happen. As an

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opposition party, they do have to formulate policies. You have to

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build a consensus around that. There doesn't seem to be one of these

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airstrikes. The trouble is that even if there was a consensus, there are

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divisions about Jeremy Corbyn's leadership. I am sure that is true,

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but inevitably any policy decision has a range of views. It is striking

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thinking about those who opposed his stance are not really giving reasons

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for that. It has become about the leadership, which seems a

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distraction from issue. It will be interesting to see what happens on

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Monday, the MPs have gone away on the weekends to talk to family

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friends and constituents. The comeback on and feed weather that

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has swayed them at all... The general feeling, and this is in the

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mirror, they have done a poll to see whether people think that we should

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have airstrikes in theory or not. -- in Syria. The general opinion is not

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strongly in favour -- Mirror. Jeremy Corbyn is actually speaking for a

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huge amount of the British population who do not want to see

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extracts. They need somebody speaking for them. The Jennifer

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Saunders has twittered, why is the news about Jeremy Corbyn rather than

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rights and wrongs and airstrikes? People are clearly thinking about it

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for themselves, this poll would indicate they are not convinced. If

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you think back to Iraq, public opinion was initially in favour of

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action. From this poll, which is quite comprehensive, appears certain

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-- it appears that certainly divided. 59% of men support

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airstrikes, only 38% of women. 59% of those questioned by the Mirror

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think that sending in more planes would increase the risk of terrorist

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attacks. I think that is a crucial consideration. It has been sold as a

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matter of national security. Those attacks happened in Paris just a few

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100 miles away. Jeremy Corbyn has always said, he thinks it could make

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it worse. There have been other commentators who have said the

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same? The attacks in Paris were also not from Syrians who had come to

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attack France, they had only come from Belgium. I think we are all

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aware that if a terrorist attack were to happen in this country, it

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would likely come from within the country. That is why the

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intelligence services are so important, they have stopped

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attacks. I think it would rather we put our resources into that. The

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reason people are sceptical is that it has happened in the past and it

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has not helped situation. As with our international partners, don't we

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have to be part of the group of allies? That is one element of

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certainly the conservative argument, we cannot outsource foreign policy.

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We have to stand with our allies. That was also Tony Blair's argument

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with Iraq. It doesn't necessarily end up in a good place. Beyond the

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security indications, there are the military objections. Many military

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specialists say it but we would not make much of a difference in a

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strategic sense. A secret bid to oust Corbyn, lawyers telling the

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Labour MPs that they can dump their leader. Why does it need a legal

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underpinning? They are trying to work out a voting strategy. The one

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thing about all this story is that nobody is saying he should be the

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leader. It is a bit like saying we want to get rid of Islamic State,

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but we don't know what the final solution should be or what we want

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in our. You need an alternative. Nobody has offered an alternative or

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put their name forward. Perhaps Hillary and then might emerge,

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probably his most prolific critic... He will emerge. The son of

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Tony Blair, not known for being critical. Looking at the Sun, four

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planes in a scare. Do we know what the Arabic sayyid? We don't yet. A

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translation has not been released. -- said. If you think about it, for

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someone to daub graffiti near fuel tanks, they need access to the fuel

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tanks. It doesn't really matter what language it is an. Somebody knows

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what they have written, but they haven't released it -- in. It is a

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security worry. Something like 80,000 people work at the airport,

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and you think, that's an awful lot of people to keep track of. Those

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people have access to planes, the crew are complaining they don't have

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long enough, they only have about seven minutes to go through a safety

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check. Saying it is not nearly enough time to be safe. The pilot is

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responsible for the internal parts of the plane. A slightly alarming

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call from the aviation International, they said they know

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there are people working in airports with extremist sympathies. If they

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know that, you would think, surely they could get them a different

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job. Perhaps they could work in the canteen or somewhere else. It is a

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worry, I think everyone is terrified. It is so variable all

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over the world. You realise how tight security can be in some

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places, like Israel. The daily express, MPs pushing for a four-day

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week on the same pay. That would be nice. Who is pushing for this? It's

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coming from various quarters and for different reasons. At the moment,

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Fridays in the Commons tend to be taken up with private members bills

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and stuff that isn't really going to go anyway. A lot of MPs, for

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different reasons, want to spend Fridays in their constituency. They

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are in the Parliament in Westminster Monday to Thursday, but they want

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Fridays to do other things. So, they wouldn't be working four days a

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week, four days in London and one in their constituency. If it introduced

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general idea of MPs being lazy, having lots of holidays. It's just

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not true. Even when they're not at Westminster, they are still working.

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The express says they want to take their first class flights home to

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Scotland a bit earlier. Douglas Carswell said we need to change the

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whole culture of MPs, they should just be part-time. Various MPs have

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jobs as GPs as well. I quite like MPs to have a full-time job running

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the country, I don't need them to give me my flu jab. I would rather

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they were concentrating fully, once they are an MP, to have their full

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attention. There was an argument that they could cut the recesses and

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have shorter breaks, but do a four-day week so they could spend

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the travelling time at home. That is the point the SNP are making quite

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legitimately. They do have to travel a lot further to get home. The Mail,

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and the Telegraph, the Black Friday flop. Deserted High Street stores

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leave piles of am -- unsold goods. After the violence of last year, you

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can't blame people? I did, I went online. There is a problem though,

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because all the websites started crashing. Some companies have lost

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about ?2.8 million in lost revenue. If this is going to be more an

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on-line then, and I think the scenes last year really puts people off...

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The cold and the weight. It was quite unseemly. Some people got up

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overnight. Some got up in their pyjamas and when shopping in their

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pyjamas. It's a little bit crazy. To save ?30 on an iPad. Not worth

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losing your sleep over. I love the detail in the Mail, the only people

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who ended up outside this flagship store in Oxford Street were

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journalists. Should have stayed at home. The daily Telegraph says we

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have sales until Christmas? Cyber Monday apparently. I don't know what

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is super Saturday? This cultural phenomenon of shopping has passed me

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by. I have a nostalgic fondness for the Boxing Day sales, but as the

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Telegraph says it is now completely superfluous. We are spreading out

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the sales from yesterday or today until after Christmas. It is about a

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six-week thing. Price reduction. We will finish with a lovely picture.

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This was requested on Twitter, we don't normally do requests but I

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could not resist this one. John, you know who you are. This is a

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hedgehog. Hedgehog numbers are in sharp decline, apparently we can

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make simple changes to attract them to our gardens. You just said you

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have them in your garden? I think it is because we never clear the

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leaves. I don't think my garden is big enough. I was clearing the

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leaves up and an enormous toad was underneath them. Not quite as cute

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as hedgehogs. We mustn't feed hedgehogs milk. You can give them a

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bit of dog or cat food. It is good to help the service broadcasting.

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Don't give them bread or milk. I like the juxtaposition between the

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hedgehog and Jeremy Corbyn. He is in a much better place, the hedgehog. I

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knew that would be popular. Lovely to have it here.

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