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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers

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With me are Sian Griffiths, Education Editor from the Sunday

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Times and James Millar, Political correspondent from the Sunday Post.

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The Mail on Sunday leads with Grant Schapps resignation and the scandal

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The Telegraph reports that David Cameron is to risk a Commons

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Grant Schapps and his wife are on the front of the Sunday Express but

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says that up to 100 prisoners serving life sentences could be let

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out of jail for Christmas. The Observer says that David Cameron

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could risk a Commons vote despite a split in the Labour Party. The Times

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also goes with the story and claims if David Cameron wins the vote, he

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will order RAF air strikes to target the masterminds of the Paris

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massacre. There's more on that story

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in the The Independent On Sunday. It has a warning to Jeremy Corbyn

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from And finally The Sunday Post has

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a poll which says that the public cautiously back bombing

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raids against IS, but that 74% of people fear a terrorist attack

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on the UK within the year. We're going to start with the

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likelihood of a Commons vote this week about air strikes over Syria.

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At least that's what the papers are speculating about. And let's look to

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the observer first of all with the headline:

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Cameron to risk Commons vote over Syria strikes as split deepens.

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Sian? It's an interesting story and it does look at though David Cameron

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is preparing this week for a parliamentary vote, probably on

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Wednesday on British military action against Islamic State in Syria. And

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as the headline in the strap says, this comes as Labour is deeply

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divided over the way its MPs are going to vote, with Labour leader

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Jeremy Corbyn facing a shadow Cabinet revolt on the issue. I think

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Cameron must be pretty confident, actually, that enough Labour MPs

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will vote with him for him to call this vote. I think he thinks he's

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going to have a fairly comfortable win. And in one of the papers, I

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think it's the Sunday Times, it looks as though 80 Labour MPs are

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expected to vote with Cameron and to back the bombing. And James, it's

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not just getting a majority, it's getting a comfortable majority. A

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healthy majority, because obviously last time he tried to get the

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Commons to back action in Syria, entirely different action, it's

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worth pointing out, he lost in 2013. So he doesn't want to just creep

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over the line. I was talking to Malcolm Rifkin who said it would

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have to be a healthy majority. As a former minister, he knows a thing or

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two about this. And it looks like he'll get a healthy majority and

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that's why the story is about Labour, and it looks like there will

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be a vote and the Government will win. But where that will leave

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Labour is a different kettle of fish. You sound confident that he'll

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get the numbers. Where are they all phoning around, it's reported, to

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try to get Labour in to target certain MPs? It's a fair point. He's

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trying to make a compelling case, but that's to do with the healthy

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majority, rather than the majority. It's also because there was a time

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when you would have the usual channels and whips would talk to

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each other and everybody would know what's going on. Nobody knows what's

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going on inside the Labour Party, including the Labour Party

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leadership. So it's difficult for the Government to engage what's

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going on so the only thing they're doing is phoning up MPs and saying,

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what are you doing. And that leads us to the independent on Sunday with

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Watson telling Corbyn - you must back down. So it is the deputy

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telling the leader what to do. James, carry on. This is quite a

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good take on the story, I think. The new political editor at the

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Independent on Sunday, so well done him for getting Watson's take on

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this, Tom Watson's take on this. It doesn't exactly leave us much

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clearer about what exactly is going to happen. You would think that the

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deputy telling the leader to do this might have some sort of influence,

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but again, nobody really knows how the Labour Party is working. I spoke

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to a Shadow Cabinet member about this and he said, "I have no idea

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what's going to happen." And that wasn't just saying it to the papers

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because he doesn't didn't want to give away what was going to happen,

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he genuinely has no idea what's going to happen at the Cabinet

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meeting on Monday. Jeremy Corbyn supporters would say that he's a man

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of principle and sticking to his principles on this. Yes, I think

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that that is how his young activist supporters will see it. But it does

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seem... I mean, a number of the papers are suggesting that he will

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actually allow Labour MPs to have a free vote, because really he has no

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alternative. You know, the Shadow Cabinet has made it absolutely clear

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that a number of them are prepared to defy him, so I think there will

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be a free vote on Wednesday and the Government will get its majority. Do

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you think that that is damaging to people's perceptions of the Labour

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Party? To have the leader saying one thing, and then all his immediate

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management team, for want of a better description, actually

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announce that they're going to vote completely the other way? Of course,

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it's hugely damaging and it could possibly be a make or break issue

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for Jeremy Corbyn. I don't know. That's why we don't know if there

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will be a free vote. Every logic points to a free vote. But if you

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have a free vote, two things happen. One is that the Labour Party look

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mad and incapable of forming a Government and not a Government in

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waiting. And the other is that Jeremy Corbyn doesn't get what he

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wants, which is to stop the bombing. His entire career is based on being

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a pacifist and opposing action in the Middle East. So he's trying to

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figure out how to get that, and not necessarily listening to the votes

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saying - you can't, you're the leading of the Labour Party now.

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Zblts going to be an interesting week and speculation that the vote

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will be called for Wednesday. But we don't have that confirmed and don't

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know that. Of course, what do people outside the Westminster bubble

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think? That could be revealed in part at least in Scotland in the

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Sunday Post, James? Yes, this is very much people outside of the

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Westminster bubble. You know, outside of the "normal people", as

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they should be. And yes, most of them fear a terror attack in Britain

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after the Paris attacks. That is the big headline finding from this

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research that the terrorists who want to sew terror have sewn terror,

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but what happens next is not clear. There is cautious there. People

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don't want to send soldiers in to the Middle East. That's the legacy

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of what happened in Iraq and what went wrong in Iraq. Do you think

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that that is reflected on the wader population outside of Scotland as

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well? I think it is. I get the feeling from people, when I talk to

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people, there's a real reluctance and a worry about putting troops on

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the ground in Syria, and I think that it does go back to Iraq and

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what happens in Iraq and just general fears. But I think that it

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is interesting in this poll that 74% of the readers feared a terror

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attack on the UK within a year. So you know, on the one hand, I think

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people are incredibly aware of the threat posed by ISIS to Britons in

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this country. But nevertheless, still very worried about the repurr

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cushions if we take -- repercussions if we send troops in. Another big

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story dominating the headlines, dominating the bulletins today is

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the resignation of Grant Schapps from his ministerial post. And this

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all about his resignation as Overseas Aid Minister in the

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aftermath of all of the allegations of how the Conservative Party is

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being run and how it treats activists and all of those

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allegations, which are coming home. And James, resignation, or resigned,

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exposed, doomed is the headline. Yes. The Tory Party certainly has

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questions to answer now. The Mail on Sunday have been hammering away at

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this for weeks and nobody has paid a huge amount of attention until the

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last week or so, it's begun to build critical mass and now we have a

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resignation. Grant Schapps, who was party chairman at the time of a lot

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of allegations around bullying, blackmail and all sorts of very

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unpleasant dealings that may or may not have been going on, has now

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resigned. So the story is very much moving on. How far it's going to go,

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we will have to wait and see. I suspect it's not the ends of it, but

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the next person in the firing line is Lord Felledman, who was also

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co-chairman -- Lord Feldman, and the father of Elliot Johnson, the Tory

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activist who died, is still very much calling for Lord Feldman to

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follow Grant Schapps out the door. Lord Feldman given the backing of

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senior Conservatives at the moment. But as James is saying, the Mail and

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the Mail on Sunday have been pushing the story in the last few weeks? It

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is, and it's a dramatic front page there. But the story moved on after

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an interview that the parents of Elliot Johnson gave to the Guardian

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yesterday, which was a moving interview, and you know, on the one

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hand, their 21-year-old son has committed suicide amid these

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allegations that he was bullied, allegedly, by a senior Conservative

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aide, who denies the allegations. And on the other hand, they've

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somehow found the strength to stand up and say - yes, we've lost our

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son, you know. But something has gone horribly wrong within the

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culture of the Conservative youth wing, and it needs to be put right.

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And somewhere, from somewhere, they've found the strength to stand

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up and take on the establishment, really, and say - please sort this

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out before anybody else suffers in the way our son has suffered. And I

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think that's very brave. Indeed. On to the Sunday Telegraph. Of course,

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it is the first of three strikes by junior doctors due to begin on

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Tuesday. They've adjourned ACAS talks until Monday, so not much time

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left to sort this out. And the headline there suggests, "Army is

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poised to cover for striking NHS doctors." What do you make of that?

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It is extraordinary, the idea that we're going to have army doctors in

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hospitals. But on the other hand, this is only the first of three

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strikes that the junior doctors are planning to call. And I think in

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some ways that it is reassuring that there will be army doctors there, as

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opposed to nobody at all. But I think, and I'm hoping, hopefully the

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ACAS talks will be fruitful and the other two strikes will not happen.

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But I would love to know what the public think about junior doctors

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striking for the first time for 40 years, because will they feel it's

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wrong for doctors to strike? Even in places like Great Ormond Street

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Hospital, where children are being treated, or will they feel that

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junior doctors have a really, really difficult time. The job is almost

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undo-able. If you make their hours even longer, you extend it in to

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Saturday working, can the NHS... What will the future of the NHS look

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like? OK, but the Government and across the NHS is such a sensitive

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topic, and the Government is saying that this actually to make their

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life better, and also to extend the case to get a more uniform service

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across seven days? Well the Government, or the Conservative

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Party promised the NHS. Having won the election, they now have to

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implement it. That is more difficult than promising it, which is more

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difficult than they're finding, of course. So yes, there is very much

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two sides to it. You would hope that they can get around the table at

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ACAS and find some sort of agreement, but it has become a very,

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very bitter dispute. So I wouldn't necessarily hold out any hope that

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there will be an agreement any time soon. And I bet that is one of the

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topics that people outside the Westminster bubble are very

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sensitive of. Here's a story, great fun. Sunday Times. Riddle of Sally

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from Bolton. And this is all about a question worth ?100 million, which

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is a painting that somebody says is by Leonardo, but a forger says he

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did it in 2007 and based it on somebody who worked in the Co-op.

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It's such an amazing story. It is the only light story on the front

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paging of tomorrow's papers. And as you say, it is the chalk drawing of

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a 15th century Italian woman, possibly. So is it a Da Vinci, or

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was it drawn in the 1970s by Britain's most prolific forger, who

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used to operate out of his parent's council house, and was it inspired

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by a Co-Op supermarket worker called Sally. And the forger was jailed in

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2007 for forgery. And he claims that he drew this woman, the work is

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called La Bella Principisa, if I have the pronunciation correct. And

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I love the headline, Riddle of Sally from Bolton. Should you believe a

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forger, given that the career is based out of it. 15th century or

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1970. She looks 19 # 0s to me. You think it is a forgery? She looks

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quite 1970s. You are very kind to try to pronounce it in Italian, I

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think it was. What should it be, if it is 1970s? OK. Thank you very

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much. Coming up next,

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