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comments from Tyson Fury who has returned to the UK after beating

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Wladimir Klitschko on Saturday night. We will look at the 12 names

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on the short list for the BBC Sports Personality of the Year award. That

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is after The Papers. Hello, and welcome to

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our look ahead to what the papers We are running late. Don't blame me,

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blame Hugh. He is not here, he is gone.

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With me are the Daily Mirror columnist Susie Boniface and the

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We will press on because we don't have a lot of time. We will start

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with the eye. Corbyn's claim down. Caring into leader after heated

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Cabinet meeting. What choice did he have? None whatsoever. This will be

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Corbyn's big problem. It doesn't matter whether you agree with him,

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party, you have to have some party, you have to have some

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managerial skills. You have to be able to run your top team. Your MPs

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argue executives, your shadow cupboard are your very close members

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of the board. Have to appeal to the customers as well as getting new

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customers. The fundamental problem is he does not have the experience

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of managing anything apart from himself and is he does not have the

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experience of managing anything apart from himself and its own, to

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ask other people and making his mind up about going to his constituency.

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Apparently today at some point in the meeting, he was reading out what

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he thought they should be doing, to have a free vote but not mention it

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to anybody. A member of their Cabinet held up a phone and said

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this is all on Twitter. And Corbyn went mad and said he can't believe

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they are tweeting from the Shadow Cabinet, and he said it is not thus,

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it is your team. They were treating it as if it was already a decision

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that was happening. This does not happen whether you are a charity, a

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company, a newsroom, that is not how you get people onside with you and

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that is where they will fail. Talking about newsrooms... The thing

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is, though, it could have been his downfall, wouldn't it, if he had

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insisted upon everyone following his lead, surely... Political leaders

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should, is that not the job of a political leader? Cameron has

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managed to do that by large. But David Cameron hasn't voted against

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his party 100 times. That is part of the problem. Jeremy Corbyn rebelled

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so many times and he was a backbencher so it has not got a like

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to stand on when backbenchers say to him, you didn't show us loyalty, why

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should we show you any? Years running it like he is a left-wing

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campaigning MP. It sounded like it was absolute chaos going on in the

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Shadow Cabinet. He tried to tell them we will have a policy of

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opposing the war but I will let you have a free vote. Andy Burnham said

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it is completely unacceptable. We said -- we had the scene of the

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Chief Whip saying she would resign and then not going to resign. This

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is the kind of party management that David Cameron was getting criticised

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for in 2013 when he tried and failed to go to war and this is much

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worse. Let's look at the Metro, keirin, it says that the free vote

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puts, Corbyn taking us to war? That is the point the paper is making. It

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is a bad way of writing it. Because Corbyn is making such a hash of

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arranging his own party, none of us are looking at the less exciting

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strategy that Cameron has proposed and criticising it. Don't you admire

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Jeremy Corbyn are trying to stick to what he believes is true? Yes and

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you can't deny that but he has turned round so many times on this

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issue alone, he is practically a human corkscrew. The trouble is, why

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we are all looking at him trying to be principled but bending

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uncompromising any time he tries to establish in principle, we are not

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cruised scrutinising the Government suggestion. You can blame the media

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if you like but that is Corbyn's job, he should be saying these

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upheavals in the argument and hasn't been saying that. Hasn't he been

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trying to do that? To a certain extent but he has been trying to

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decide whether to whip his own MPs instead. The Labour Party has had a

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huge internal conversation over the last few days instead of dealing

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with what we all want to know, this is the right thing to do or not?

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This is really, the next General Election, if Jeremy Corbyn wins,

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this will be the next election in microcosm. Labour talking to itself

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and not appealing to focus on the issues they care about. Let's talk

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about the doctors strike, will move to the Guardian. Doctors call off

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strike and agreed to hold further talks. It is a subvention of these

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three days of action, one of which tomorrow, cold comfort to patients

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who have had operations cancelled. The only comfort will be that these

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are routine operations and in theory it will not be life-threatening

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operations, the Government has at least seen some kind of sense and

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are going to have some talks. What has happened is that the Government

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has removed this threat of doing this contract on the doctors without

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consultation. They said to them, if you not agree to our own terms, you

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not agree to our own terms, you'll have to said, they threw their toys

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out of the pram. BMA have could they not have gone to the negotiating

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table a bit sooner? I think they have been round the table but the

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bad blood on both sides is very high. I was reading something by a

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negotiation experts think the other day that Jeremy Hunt has done

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everything you're not supposed to do, setting an artificial deadline

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and threatening mandatory action... Is that not really terrible

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management? This man should not be in charge of a government department

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if that is how he acts. He is glad to know. It all seems to have been

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postponed for now. Let's look at the telegraph if we can. Cameron given

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an option to delay Heathrow decision, who had given him the

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option? The environmental audit committee, cross-party, MPs, have

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given him the biggest relief, everything is coming up smelling of

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roses for him at the moment, this was going to be a huge headache.

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Cameron and Osborne are keen to get building a third runway at Heathrow

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but know they have a huge problem because not only does Boris Johnson

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vehemently oppose it but Zac Goldsmith, the man they are lining

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up to be the next Mayor of London if he wins, also opposes it. They have

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to find a way of diffusing this issue while the mayoral election

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comes. They have been saying on the audit committee, we have to examine

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this further, that the airport except that it will comply with key

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environmental conditions. Why we need that when we have a had a

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three-year commission... You need it because the Prime Minister kicked it

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into the long grass. Select committees of the environment don't

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go along with them but this has been quite convenient with them. Nothing

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odd going on? Know, but it would suit him at this stage that he could

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kick this into the long grass until after the EU referendum. He will

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have no problems in terms of Europe and splits in 2017, whenever it is

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it is held. If he can put Heathrow that would cause sac and barristers

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that the party again, if they can push that a little further down the

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line so that Cameron in theory isn't Prime Minister at that point, he

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said he would leave before the next election in 2020, you will be a

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happy bunny so I would say it is convenient. Call to ban DNA editing

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says the Daily Telegraph. This is a wood designer baby fears. Quite a

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large number of British scientists amongst an even bigger group calling

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for a ban on genetic editing, -- editing. It is... It is a fine line

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to discuss, what scientists here are worried about is creating

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superhumans, that has been eradicated to be perfect. Other

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things that we do use already, things like Gene therapy, stem cell

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therapy, screening for certain disabilities, it has changed our

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species a bit over time. They are trying to say here is getting

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everyone to stop and think and get on board for a moment, some nations,

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China in particular, do their own thing. The temptation to get rid of

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life-threatening illnesses if you can is enormous, but unintended

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consequences could be a human race that never reverts to what it was.

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Yes, we already have things like stem cell research but the

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difference there is, I think as far as I can tell... Genetic

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modifications don't necessarily get passed down through the

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generations. What scientists are worried about but are you are curing

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one thing but you could be in producing witnesses to something

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else, a worry with crops and things... Should we give the last

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word to map? A columnist in the telegraph. They have got the tree up

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already which I think is far too early. Tomorrow is the first, you

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can do it from the first. I am afraid I disagree and it is my

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programme. There is a woman sitting in her chair and a man is standing

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at the wall and the Labour Advent calendar, he is starting to open the

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doors. The legend is, every day there is a different policy on

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Syria. How clever he is. Well done, Matt, thank you. That is from The

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Papers this hour but there will be more at 11:30pm for a look at the

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front pages. A little look at what is going on in Paris may be. At 11,

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the latest in Westminster as the Prime Minister confirms there will

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be a debate on a vote on air strikes in Syria on Wednesday. Coming up,

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sports day. Hello and welcome to Sportsday -

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I'm Jessica Creighton. Coming up on the programme,

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England's cricketers complete their Twenty20 series whitewash

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against Pakistan, after

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