04/12/2015 The Papers


04/12/2015

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where there was a real humdinger between two former world champions.

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Sportsday in 15 minutes after the papers.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers

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With me are guests joining are the Times Columnist Matthew Syed

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and Melanie Eusebe - Professor at the Hult Business School.

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Before we get into discussion, let us look at what the papers lead

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The Times leads with news that so called Islamic State fighters

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have captured large parts of eastern Afghanistan.

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The conviction of Maoist cult leader Aravindan

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The same story dominates the Mirror's front page -

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focusing on the dramatic testimony from Balakrishnan's daughter.

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"PM may be forced to back Brexit" is the Telegraph's headline.

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The paper claims David Cameron has said he may have to campaign to

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leave the EU - if other European leaders ignore his demands.

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Meanwhile the FT claims there are concerns at the

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European Central Bank about David Cameron's plans for treaty change.

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According to the Mail, thousands of European doctors

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and nurses will be allowed to work in the UK without checks

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Finally - the Express says the UK is bracing itself for "the wildest

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All of that and more but let's start with the story which pops up in a

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lot of papers, the Daily Mirror captive slave for 30 years by my

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dad. This is a horrendous story but it is rare but it is intriguing and

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fascinating and horrifying. The story is shocking for so many

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reasons. Yes, the abuse lasted for 30 years but it was in a communist

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collective and she was kept in the collective for 30 years where he

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made her believe that he was God and she would be killed by lightning or

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spontaneous combustion if she disobeyed him or left. I can't

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imagine the reign of fear she was living under. He was convicted.

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Let's see what the sentencing says but from where the Daily Mirror

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comes from, there is no punishment dear enough for him. January 29 is

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the date he will be sentenced. He has been told to expect a

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substantial sentence. It is an extraordinary story. What does it

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tell us about society, is it a freak one-off? It tells us about the power

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of mind control, this sadistic egomaniac kept him in prison in the

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house and gave her these messages consistently, coupled with physical

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abuse and it is inevitable you will start to adopt and take on these

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attitudes because she had no access to other sources of information. He

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didn't want the to leave so he could continue to entrench them in

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invisible handcuffs. I'm so glad he has been caught and will be

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convicted and sentenced. It is relatively rare to see this extreme

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end but cults are a widespread phenomenon. And people who want to

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control other people will use the most extreme methods and it is vital

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you have laws. How did it go undetected for this long? Very

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manipulative and pretty clever in terms of his statistic aim. It is

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extraordinary, when we think of cults we tend to think of a farm in

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the middle of nowhere, this was in the middle of the biggest city in

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the country. Exactly and one of the biggest cities on the planet and

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gentrification in the area, Brixton is a cultural Mecca and so I don't

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understand... I really don't understand and I feel for her

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because I... The invisible handcuffs, to know the world is

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outside and to not be exposed to it and have access to it and to

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honestly think I will be hit by lightning if I don't obey this

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person, for 30 years, I can't imagine the fear she was living

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under. On a positive note, I don't know if you saw the interview with a

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daughter which was a compelling interview. Partly because she made

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so vivid the reality of her life but also because of her rationality and

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her love and forgiveness. She quoted Nelson Mandela saying I don't want

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to take the hate with me. I want to be reconciled with my father and the

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interviewed somebody who helped her to deal with the emotional trauma

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and said she is coming on well and she will be able to live a full

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life. In fairness to Maoists, a Maoist cults. There is no mention in

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the Little red book of this. He was guilty of a lot of things, famine

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and cultural Revolution but he wasn't somebody who have

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supernatural powers. Wright, moving on to another significant story, the

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Independent. Sharia courts, the inside story. What we make of this?

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So, essentially it is an Expose explaining there is a parallel

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system of Islamic justice and it is operating in the shadow of the law

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and with this, when because sharia law is quite... I can't think of the

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word. It is quite certain... Prescriptive in terms of marriage

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and the sanctity of marriage and what that means is on the flip side

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when there is a case of domestic abuse, women can be locked into

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abusive relationships under this shadow sharia law operating in the

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shadow of British law. A study was done by a legal scholar in the

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Netherlands after attending 15 hours of hearings at Islamic Council in

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late as well as Birmingham Central Mosque sharia. The reason I struggle

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with my words is because sometimes when I have to be careful because it

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feels like it can be loaded particularly regarding what is

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happening right now and so everyone knows I am a feminist however I

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would like to know more about this story before I make the poll. It

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gets to the heart of multiculturalism and issues. I will

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be less careful, I do not think the root cause of the problem is

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courts, it is legal -- religious doctrine. They are saying to women

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you need to stay with your husband, the woman is entitled under the law

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to seek redress from the courts were divorce if they have a plausible

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case. But they feel they cannot go against the judge because they have

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religious authority and therefore it is morally unacceptable to go

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against it. If we put our faith in the judges because they have some

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religious baggage or ancient scriptures rather than rationality,

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science and what we think about morality and the secular laws, we

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will go wrong. That is the root cause. I could see you listening

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with interest. A lot of people will feel instinctive reaction to this

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story. Most definitely. And the story lends itself to an instinctive

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reaction however there are choices as well that these women have made.

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It isn't just necessarily about the judges and courts and the law is not

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listening to them, it is also them not reporting it because that is

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their belief system. That is why I have to be careful and all of us

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should be a bit more careful when we report on these. I don't think any

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religious scholar disagrees if you look through the centuries of

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religions they have often been used as tools by men to repress women.

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This is a manifestation of something which is a deep history, I am not

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saying all religions today do that but it has had that historical

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dimension. I have never seen from page based on 15 hours of data and

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research. Blatantly it says after 15 hours of hearings and you are on the

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front of the paper. That needs to be more... The scholars are never

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allowed in. This is the first time they have had the access. The Times

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newspaper, this is basis. Isis invaded Afghanistan. Islamic State

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fighters have captured swathes of eastern Afghanistan. Another one of

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these images, Isis fighters in training. A powerful story and it is

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about the extension of the caliphate, about the extent to which

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Isis can further its objectives by having more geographical territory

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and Anthony Lloyd, the Times reporter has been kidnapped and shot

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by fanatics but it continues to go out to reveal the truth. At a time

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when journalism has quite a low reputation, I think it is important

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we see the truth at ground level and do not just rely on what the

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government tells us and this is a vivid story and troubling. Anthony

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Lloyd is one of the great modern correspondence. Goodness me, every

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day we hear another story of Isis or Isil or Islamic State and this move

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into Afghanistan is troubling. Yes, they have said that due to the

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withdrawal of the Western combat forces and the splintering of the

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Taliban, this is the expectation and has caught everyone by surprise did

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terms of that move and in terms of the way they are governing the area,

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it is quite public. You can find it on YouTube, public beheadings,

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strict adherence to Koranic teachings and it's quite surprising

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because it is quite open. Moving to something different, the Financial

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Times, Cameron EU currency call alarms the ECB. The ECB is the

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European Central Bank, European Union... With your business hat on,

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what do you make of this? Well, it is quite straightforward. We have a

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treaty and 19 out of 20 member states Right now have a common

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currency with Denmark and the UK opting out that. And so now says he

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wants the union to be more of a multi-currency union however the

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ECB, marry a drag be says this will open up the slippery slope for the

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EU having more than one or two or three currencies and some of them

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would also... They said the Polish premier describes the Euro as a bad

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idea making Poland a second grease. You can see the splintering

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throughout the EU regarding whether we should have won currency or many.

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Good news. It is crazy to have one interest rate and currency for a

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number of nations that have different faces of the economic

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cycle. It gives an advantage for the countries outside the Euro zone. Of

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course. It will devalue instead of staying at a high interest rates in

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the middle of a recession. There is no problem with having a single

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market and consistent set of rules for competition but having a single

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currency goes against everything I learned in macro economics. That is

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true however if you look at... It would be unevenly split. How do you

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apply or determine who should have the single currency and two should

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be without? Let individual countries to side and then you have consistent

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balls in terms of markets and retail and regulation but you have people

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deciding on their own interest rates. This will be the debate David

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Cameron will be having. I want to look at the Aravindan Balakrishnan

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story. And the Oldham win is buoyant for Corbin. It was a big victory. I

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am not somebody who is a big Corbin supporter but I feel sympathy, if

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anything went wrong it would be the Corbin effect, Labour bombs out.

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They increased their majority from a respected former MP. They say it is

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the new guy, Jim McMahon. There is nothing Corbin seems to be able to

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do that makes a cut through. I'm not saying I like his policy but it is a

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significant achievement for the Labour leader. As an independent

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observer, is the media ganging up on Jeremy Corbyn? Yes, I do. OK! On

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that succinct analysis, we will see you later on. Those were the front

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pages. That is it for this hour. Thank you to my guests. We are back

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at 11:30pm for another look through the stories making the news. Stay

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with us on BBC News. At 11pm, more on the mass shooting in California,

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being investigated as an act of terrorism. Next, Sportsday.

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Hello and welcome to Sportsday - I'm Matt Smith.

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