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Europa League matches, a flat performance from English teams and a

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bad night again for Louis Van Gaal. That is in Sportsday in 15 minutes

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after the papers. Hello and welcome to our look ahead

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at what the papers will bring us tomorrow morning. With me journalist

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Henry Bonsu and former Trade Minister Lord Digby Jones. Welcome,

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with you both back together I think this may be why Clive took the

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evening off! It could be a coincidence. Just before we get

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going with you, let's look at what the papers are saying. We will start

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with the metro, the front page, what do you make of this, Digby Jones? I

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am not surprised the Prime Minister, the democratically elected leader of

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a nation, says he will battle for his country. That is, what wouldn't

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you expect? Of course, in a way, it is symptomatic to my view of why

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this is coming off the wrong base. I believe in a reformed Europe but it

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is not a reformed Europe in my view that should be particularly for

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Britain, but for Europe. As an unemployed kid in Greece, 21 years

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old, who hadn't worked with no prospect of employment, what we have

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to do is get Europe, instead of marching violently towards 1970, get

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it on the page of the 21st-century. This is a sure's century, Britain on

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the 19th, America run the 20th, Asia will run the 21st. 520 million

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people living in peace, which is a fabulous achievement, having taken

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Eastern Europe out of the Soviet bloc without tyranny is a big

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achievement, a huge achievement. Now we are condemning these people to,

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frankly, a pretty cold life, simply because we are trying to agree to

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work to a set of rules set in 1957 at a different time for a different

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world. I don't blame the Prime Minister for saying he is battling

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for Britain, that is what you do when you lead a country. In my view

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he has the wrong precedence. Digby is in danger of challenging Francois

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Hollande in saying this is about the whole EU. Jeremy Corbyn is also...

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He is thinking about the most downtrodden, oppressed people of

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Europe, not just Britain in splendid isolation. The metro has a positive

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spin talking about Cameron and the Battle for Britain, presenting him

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as an eminent Churchill Ian or challenging Margaret Thatcher. This

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is the antidote to thin gruel from Rees Mogg. He is of course

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sceptical. If you look at what the papers are saying about the

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discussion so far it isn't going the Prime minister's wait, you will need

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all three of those shirts because going down to the wire it will be

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long haul. Quite a lot of Eastern long haul. Quite a lot of Eastern

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European countries don't want to give him what he wants. The Guardian

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picks up on part of this point, Digby. You will have seen this from

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the inside us Trade Minister in Gordon Brown's government. The

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Guardian has been briefed by other EU leaders, he has one chance, if

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you can't get a deal tomorrow, forget it. At that level, there is

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without doubt, the word on the street, that the best way of dealing

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with it get a better deal is come back with not a lot, referendum

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throws it out, then Brussels does what it did with the French, Dutch

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and Irish referendums, which is to vote again and again and again till

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you get it right, because Brussels doesn't understand democracy. That

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is the chat on the street and they are trying to kill that by saying

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this is a once-in-a-lifetime occasion. Is it brinkmanship? For

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sure. My concern is, I am not at all certain that the leaders of Europe,

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and they include Cameron in this, are on the right page of this. I

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will give you good example, one of the businesses I chair, we cannot

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get enough skilled engineers, and we have job offers out to Indians from

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Bangalore, cannot get the movies. They would come and earn good money,

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I am not talking of Lope -- cannot get them of these, they pay tax,

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generate profits, we would pay more corporation tax and build schools

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and hospitals, we cannot get the Visa because the British government

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says they are not coming in because they are cutting down on

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immigration. Everyday we have five or six Romanians who cannot speaking

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wish knocking on the door for a job. That doesn't help global

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competitiveness, it doesn't help Britain becoming more productive,

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and at the end of the day it doesn't help the Romanian cyber. This is the

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Farage- Carswell arguments. Don't personalise it. He wants more of

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Commonwealth. If those remaining staff killed engineers I would have

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them, it is not about them being in Europe but the fact that we are not

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getting Europe globally competitive. For Francois Hollande to dance on

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the pinheads of whether Cameron will or will not get a brink Manship

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deal, frankly, they all deserve to wake up and smell the coffee and

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understand the real competitiveness argument. I am told they will wake

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up and smell bacon and eggs because we are told they will have an Ingush

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breakfast. Is that the confession we will get, do you think? I think what

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Francois Hollande is trying to do is talk tough, because of course he is

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standing for election next year, he doesn't want to roll over and give

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Cameron what he wants. But Angela Merkel, who is still the most

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powerful leader in Europe even though she is having problems with

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the German immigration crisis, wants to do everything she can short of

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rolling back free movement of people to help Cameron because the other

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leaders recognise the new would be poorer without Britain's. So do you

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think we will get some kind of deal? I think so, if not they will go --

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at it again next month. The common agricultural policy, created as a

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time when the world was different. We have condemned Greece to

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saying... Base your economy on exporting olives and importing cars

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and don't go bust. It is beyond me and you have Francois Hollande

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saying you cannot touch the common agricultural policy, this is sacred

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to the French way of life. It is bonkers. Let's stay with economics.

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It is economics, they take a lot of tax office! I stand corrected, but

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this is on the front of the Daily Telegraph, the call from FTSE 100

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chief is saying yes to Europe. These are some of your old mates! What?!

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You are in very personalising form tonight! We are talking about our

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biggest companies, eight of them, and those who run them saying they

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want to see Britain remaining in Europe, they think it will be good

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for business. Although they haven't put their names in any letter or

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anything the Telegraph can accurately quote, it understands

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from sources unknown that they will be in favour of Britons staying in

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Europe. If you were a small business person in Yorkshire, Birmingham

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Cardiff and read that, you would say you were not surprised. All these

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big companies have 80 or 90 advisers, lobbyists, in Brussels,

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and they fashion the regulatory framework of the EU to suit

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themselves. That is what they do. Therefore of course a big company

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wants to stay in because they have the framework that suits big

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business, and at the end of the day they will work with that. As a small

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business in Marbella, in Stockholm, it is hell on earth because you are

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trying to get by with the sales prevention team sitting in Brussels

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saying they will mess up your life, mess up the way you can create

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wealth and an extra job, whereas China must think it is Christmas

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Day. I am not personalising this but you are a great believer in trickle

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down so that person in Greece or Grimsby or wherever is working

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through the supply chain in the end towards that big business, so it is

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successful and will help that person at the bottom. As long as this is

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Fortress Europe, what we are doing is saying, the rest of the world

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doesn't matter, we will just trade with ourselves. There are 8 billion

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people on this planet and the other seven and a half billion do not give

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a dam, and they are getting on with their lives. They are creating

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wealth for themselves. That seems a good point on the frankly my dear I

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don't give a dam argument! Clark Gable, 1938! To move away from

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Europe for now because we will come in our next review. Everyday for the

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next three months! Let's stay with the Telegraph, wonderful photograph

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of Pope Francis. He looks like he is about to take off! Let's hope he

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doesn't drop back on the other side into the United States because he

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may face the wrath of Donald Trump. He may because he is quoted offering

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Donald Trump not a Christian. Not Christian, not not A Christian. He

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says his principles are wrong. He didn't mentioned him by name but

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said if you want a was instead of bridges, love your neighbour, which

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is one of the principles, you cannot be Christian. Donald Trump is

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furious because although he is not known for living his life according

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to those principles he says he is a proud presbyteries in. This is a

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paper review. It is nearly over, be quick. Let's compare the Telegraph

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with the International New York Times. I would think the Telegraph

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readership don't read the New York Times but in the Daily Telegraph he

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is quoted as saying, Donald Trump "Not a Christian". The New York

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Times said he said it is "Not Christian." You are right, the

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difference is enormous, so if you read the Telegraph you think you

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said Donald Trump is not a Christian, in New York it is not

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Christian. You would know if you had watched the paper review! We will be

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back in an hour, Digby and Henry, thank you, we will be back at 1130

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the M4 another look at the papers. Now it is time for Sportsday.

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This is Sportsday from the BBC Sport Centre.

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