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Europa League matches, a flat performance from English teams and a


bad night again for Louis Van Gaal. That is in Sportsday in 15 minutes


after the papers. Hello and welcome to our look ahead


at what the papers will bring us tomorrow morning. With me journalist


Henry Bonsu and former Trade Minister Lord Digby Jones. Welcome,


with you both back together I think this may be why Clive took the


evening off! It could be a coincidence. Just before we get


going with you, let's look at what the papers are saying. We will start


with the metro, the front page, what do you make of this, Digby Jones? I


am not surprised the Prime Minister, the democratically elected leader of


a nation, says he will battle for his country. That is, what wouldn't


you expect? Of course, in a way, it is symptomatic to my view of why


this is coming off the wrong base. I believe in a reformed Europe but it


is not a reformed Europe in my view that should be particularly for


Britain, but for Europe. As an unemployed kid in Greece, 21 years


old, who hadn't worked with no prospect of employment, what we have


to do is get Europe, instead of marching violently towards 1970, get


it on the page of the 21st-century. This is a sure's century, Britain on


the 19th, America run the 20th, Asia will run the 21st. 520 million


people living in peace, which is a fabulous achievement, having taken


Eastern Europe out of the Soviet bloc without tyranny is a big


achievement, a huge achievement. Now we are condemning these people to,


frankly, a pretty cold life, simply because we are trying to agree to


work to a set of rules set in 1957 at a different time for a different


world. I don't blame the Prime Minister for saying he is battling


for Britain, that is what you do when you lead a country. In my view


he has the wrong precedence. Digby is in danger of challenging Francois


Hollande in saying this is about the whole EU. Jeremy Corbyn is also...


He is thinking about the most downtrodden, oppressed people of


Europe, not just Britain in splendid isolation. The metro has a positive


spin talking about Cameron and the Battle for Britain, presenting him


as an eminent Churchill Ian or challenging Margaret Thatcher. This


is the antidote to thin gruel from Rees Mogg. He is of course


sceptical. If you look at what the papers are saying about the


discussion so far it isn't going the Prime minister's wait, you will need


all three of those shirts because going down to the wire it will be


long haul. Quite a lot of Eastern long haul. Quite a lot of Eastern


European countries don't want to give him what he wants. The Guardian


picks up on part of this point, Digby. You will have seen this from


the inside us Trade Minister in Gordon Brown's government. The


Guardian has been briefed by other EU leaders, he has one chance, if


you can't get a deal tomorrow, forget it. At that level, there is


without doubt, the word on the street, that the best way of dealing


with it get a better deal is come back with not a lot, referendum


throws it out, then Brussels does what it did with the French, Dutch


and Irish referendums, which is to vote again and again and again till


you get it right, because Brussels doesn't understand democracy. That


is the chat on the street and they are trying to kill that by saying


this is a once-in-a-lifetime occasion. Is it brinkmanship? For


sure. My concern is, I am not at all certain that the leaders of Europe,


and they include Cameron in this, are on the right page of this. I


will give you good example, one of the businesses I chair, we cannot


get enough skilled engineers, and we have job offers out to Indians from


Bangalore, cannot get the movies. They would come and earn good money,


I am not talking of Lope -- cannot get them of these, they pay tax,


generate profits, we would pay more corporation tax and build schools


and hospitals, we cannot get the Visa because the British government


says they are not coming in because they are cutting down on


immigration. Everyday we have five or six Romanians who cannot speaking


wish knocking on the door for a job. That doesn't help global


competitiveness, it doesn't help Britain becoming more productive,


and at the end of the day it doesn't help the Romanian cyber. This is the


Farage- Carswell arguments. Don't personalise it. He wants more of


Commonwealth. If those remaining staff killed engineers I would have


them, it is not about them being in Europe but the fact that we are not


getting Europe globally competitive. For Francois Hollande to dance on


the pinheads of whether Cameron will or will not get a brink Manship


deal, frankly, they all deserve to wake up and smell the coffee and


understand the real competitiveness argument. I am told they will wake


up and smell bacon and eggs because we are told they will have an Ingush


breakfast. Is that the confession we will get, do you think? I think what


Francois Hollande is trying to do is talk tough, because of course he is


standing for election next year, he doesn't want to roll over and give


Cameron what he wants. But Angela Merkel, who is still the most


powerful leader in Europe even though she is having problems with


the German immigration crisis, wants to do everything she can short of


rolling back free movement of people to help Cameron because the other


leaders recognise the new would be poorer without Britain's. So do you


think we will get some kind of deal? I think so, if not they will go --


at it again next month. The common agricultural policy, created as a


time when the world was different. We have condemned Greece to


saying... Base your economy on exporting olives and importing cars


and don't go bust. It is beyond me and you have Francois Hollande


saying you cannot touch the common agricultural policy, this is sacred


to the French way of life. It is bonkers. Let's stay with economics.


It is economics, they take a lot of tax office! I stand corrected, but


this is on the front of the Daily Telegraph, the call from FTSE 100


chief is saying yes to Europe. These are some of your old mates! What?!


You are in very personalising form tonight! We are talking about our


biggest companies, eight of them, and those who run them saying they


want to see Britain remaining in Europe, they think it will be good


for business. Although they haven't put their names in any letter or


anything the Telegraph can accurately quote, it understands


from sources unknown that they will be in favour of Britons staying in


Europe. If you were a small business person in Yorkshire, Birmingham


Cardiff and read that, you would say you were not surprised. All these


big companies have 80 or 90 advisers, lobbyists, in Brussels,


and they fashion the regulatory framework of the EU to suit


themselves. That is what they do. Therefore of course a big company


wants to stay in because they have the framework that suits big


business, and at the end of the day they will work with that. As a small


business in Marbella, in Stockholm, it is hell on earth because you are


trying to get by with the sales prevention team sitting in Brussels


saying they will mess up your life, mess up the way you can create


wealth and an extra job, whereas China must think it is Christmas


Day. I am not personalising this but you are a great believer in trickle


down so that person in Greece or Grimsby or wherever is working


through the supply chain in the end towards that big business, so it is


successful and will help that person at the bottom. As long as this is


Fortress Europe, what we are doing is saying, the rest of the world


doesn't matter, we will just trade with ourselves. There are 8 billion


people on this planet and the other seven and a half billion do not give


a dam, and they are getting on with their lives. They are creating


wealth for themselves. That seems a good point on the frankly my dear I


don't give a dam argument! Clark Gable, 1938! To move away from


Europe for now because we will come in our next review. Everyday for the


next three months! Let's stay with the Telegraph, wonderful photograph


of Pope Francis. He looks like he is about to take off! Let's hope he


doesn't drop back on the other side into the United States because he


may face the wrath of Donald Trump. He may because he is quoted offering


Donald Trump not a Christian. Not Christian, not not A Christian. He


says his principles are wrong. He didn't mentioned him by name but


said if you want a was instead of bridges, love your neighbour, which


is one of the principles, you cannot be Christian. Donald Trump is


furious because although he is not known for living his life according


to those principles he says he is a proud presbyteries in. This is a


paper review. It is nearly over, be quick. Let's compare the Telegraph


with the International New York Times. I would think the Telegraph


readership don't read the New York Times but in the Daily Telegraph he


is quoted as saying, Donald Trump "Not a Christian". The New York


Times said he said it is "Not Christian." You are right, the


difference is enormous, so if you read the Telegraph you think you


said Donald Trump is not a Christian, in New York it is not


Christian. You would know if you had watched the paper review! We will be


back in an hour, Digby and Henry, thank you, we will be back at 1130


the M4 another look at the papers. Now it is time for Sportsday.


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