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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers
With me are the author and journalist,
Rachel Shabi and Tim Stanley, columnist for the Telegraph.
The European referendum dominates the Sunday papers.
The Observer leads with a quote from David Cameron:
He says he believes Britain will be safer and stronger in the EU.
The Independent on Sunday says Mr Cameron is playing
on voters' fears by putting safety at the centre of the battle.
The Sunday Express says the EU is stuck in the past,
and that Michael Gove's withering attack on Brussels has got the Out
The Mail on Sunday says Michael Gove and Boris Johnson are engaged
in a secret plot, reporting on a meeting between the
pair before Mr Gove announced his intention to vote to leave the EU.
The Sunday Times says the Prime Minister has declared war on the
ministers who want to leave the EU, accusing them of making misleading
claims that Britain's borders can be sealed by exiting the bloc.
The Sunday Telegraph also reports on what it calls "a cabinet divided".
Let's begin with how safety frames the EU vote battle. What you of
this? Well, this is basically presenting the two sides, Michael
Gove who is now freshly liberated to say what he thinks, has said exactly
what he thinks. The justice secretary and best buds with David
Cameron, perhaps not any more. Politically and personally painful
for David Cameron. It is interesting the way he frames this, with the EU
being a security crisis. It is very understanding and sympathetic that
he has framed the migrant crisis in the way of razor wires and something
we should be scared off, but it is fundamentally what the EU campaign
is about which is massive fear of migration, as opposed to all these
things they are claiming. You have managed to read into this that it is
believe people who are running on fear, when it is the remaining
people of David Cameron who are saying that leaving is a threat to
economic and national security. I am not in either of those camps as you
know, I do not take my cue from Cameron, but what I am saying to you
is that the Conservative Party have framed this referendum debate very
much in terms of a migration crisis. We can agree on that. I say this is
a Eurosceptic, but I think this will probably be framed largely around
the issue of immigration. Her country has a right to control its
borders, that deal has not given us that right, but just a four-year
break of people being able to gain access to in work benefits. Having
said all of that, I would rather we debated free-trade or sovereignty,
and our role in the world. What is it you are scared of? Is it that 500
million Europeans will swamp written because we can't control our own
borders? What is this session? For me it is not a question of fear, it
comes down to the question of pressure. You think that is an
issue? Because? For pragmatic reasons. There is pressure being
placed on social security and jobs. You can only tax-and-spend for so
long before you wreck your economy. But they bring in more than a tack.
They are net gain. At what point is it become that our services, housing
and schools, cannot take this number of people? Again, I do not want to
talk about migration to much. It is philosophical as well as practical.
A country is not an independent nation unless it controls its
borders. Is that in the end what swung it for Michael Gove?
Definitely, the intellectual question. For him, as he said in his
piece that most of the papers are carrying, it comes down to Britain
not controlling enough of the stuff, which a democratic country with a
sovereign parliament should be controlling. Should Britain be
surprised by that? I was talking to Margaret Beckett, who back 40 years
ago when she was Margaret Jackson, I think, she was a junior minister in
the Wilson government and she campaigned to get out of the EU,
which we had only been in for two years. I said, what about people who
say we have lost all our sovereignty, and having lost control
over things. She said, we had that argument in 1985. People say it was
all done surreptitious li, but I can remember talking endlessly about
sovereignty, and saying that we have to preserve it. People knew the deal
and they bought it and voted to stay in. I have accepted now that that is
how it is. I think the way you explain how the left have changed
their views on Europe is because the left, and I don't mean this is a
criticism, they tend to be instrumentalist. They don't really
mind what the process is for making social change, as long as they get.
In the 1980s, the left calculated that if we infiltrate Europe we can
turn it into a more social democratic thing, a social market
thing. So now they think, we can't get socialism through the ballot box
in this country, so instead we will use the EU to impose it on Britain
instead. I love all those logical leaps you have made in that
sentence. No wonder Michael Gove is keen to get us out and it is implied
by the Mail on Sunday that perhaps Horace Johnson is as well. What do
you make of this front-page -- Boris Johnson. This has added the tension
and drama that was absent in this very dry debate. Yes, Boris and
Michael Gove have had this epic dinner where they have been
discussing what to do. So epic they had to send out for fresh shirts. I
don't know how that is an indication of a thickness, that you have to
change your shirt, but I think Boris might be trying to figure out what
is politically advantageous for him. I don't know that it is coming
from... How close do you think he is to telling us what he is going to
do? Robert Peston, the scruffiest man in journalism, has said on
Twitter that he believes Boris is very close to backing the leave
campaign. I hope he does do that, because if you think about it, the
problem the leave campaign will have is that it is dominated by
also-rans. In terms of personality right now, it is Nigel Farage, those
are the people who will get attention, and I don't mean
intellectually but in terms of public awareness and perception. It
will be seen as the fringes. Boris Johnson gives it the backing of a
former Merit London he gives it legitimacy. Is the issue that it
will potentially be seen through the soap opera of Conservative politics?
We have a photograph of the six ministers who have said they will
defy David Cameron and vote to leave. Is it a problem for this
campaign that that is the prison in which it is being presented?
Definitely a problem. I don't blame the front pages in the papers to
doing this, because obviously that is where the drama and tension is.
You can understand why they would hone in on that. But it is a
problem, because it is not about the Conservatives, but it has become a
very Conservative debate. We are not actually hearing a progressive
argument for staying, or even one for leaving. All of that is
completely absent. We are at a 10% right-wing spectrum of the debate,
and that is very frustrating. And also very boring. I believe that is
a fair criticism, and from it is about sovereignty and trade with
Africa, about trade barriers that Europe throws up against developing
nations, making it difficult for them to grow. Some people are on the
right of the Labour Party but have also joined the campaign. The big
difference between now and 75 is it will be on one side largely
right-wing personalities for leave, and on the other side it will be
dominated by labour. Until we get a senior Labour figure it will look
like that. Let's talk about the most senior figure, the PM. The Observer
has a very impassioned photograph of David Cameron. Not someone it is
often very sympathetic towards. But they have taken the line that
Downing Street say. A very prime ministerial photograph of David
Cameron, very determined and in mid- flow, not looking exhausted as he
did on some of the papers. He has said the choices in your hand, cans.
How do you think he is coming out of this? The perception was that he was
reluctantly pushed into this. He said he did not want a referendum
for a long time but then he ended up having to negotiate this. He didn't
get what he initially wanted, he has to sell this package, he knows his
leadership may be on the line. Do you feel sympathy for him? I think
he is handling it very well. I think this will be the legacy that he
will... He wants to be able to say when it comes to write his
autobiography, I settled Scotland, and I settled Europe. David Cameron
is a Europhile. He has been uncomfortable in the last few years
because he has been forced by his backbenchers to pretend to be a
Eurosceptic. But what he always wanted to do was to make this case
for Europe, pretending he had reformed it and Britain's
relationship with it, and win and put it aside. To be the great
unifying PM he was wanted to be. From this point on in this campaign
we will now see him into comfort zone. We haven't got a huge amount
of time left let's move on to the Sunday express. -- Express. Another
photo story here on the front page, a very different time to what we
have been talking about. Paul Daniels. Yes, he has an incurable
brain tumour, so obviously devastating for him and everyone who
has enjoyed him over the years. Very brave to come out and go public with
this. I think it must be a very difficult decision for anyone, but
in particular when you are in the public eye and there is so much more
significance and impact. Quite a bold decision. I remember seeing an
interview with Timothy west talking about his wife with Alzheimer's. He
was asked why he decided to talk about it, and he said it would
almost seem fraudulent not to talk about it. He said people will feel
hurt if we don't talk to them about it, so I imagine that might be why
they have made this decision. I suspect we will hear more from them
because he was a love -- loved figure. I'm sure we will see you
more through the course of this campaign. That is it from me this
evening. Up next, The Film Review.