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Hello, and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.

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With me are Yasmin Alibhai-Brown of the Independent,

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Let us have a look at the front pages.

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The Sunday Telegraph leads with Boris Johnson attacking

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what he calls David Cameron's Agents Of Fear in the EU referendum debate.

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Plus, a warning from the Justice Secretary Michael Gove

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that the "EU fuels terror and fascism".

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The Independent has an exclusive on what it says is a cover-up

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of the treatment of terror suspects in the UK.

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NHS to harvest babies' organs is the rather alarming headline

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Britannia will no longer rule the waves.

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And claiming the EU wants to take charge of the UK coastguard as part

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So, that is the selection for you. That is beginning.

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Yasmin, start us off. The Sunday Telegraph is going for Doris zest

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funerary -- Boris Johnson's fury. There is a lot going on within the

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Tory party and the nation. John Longworth, who is the Director

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General of the British Chambers of Commerce, said he personally was for

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Brexit and leaving the EU, and has since been suspended by the board.

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Boris Johnson is accusing Downing Street of orchestrating that. He

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goes on to say, as his side have said frequently,", dissenting voices

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are being crushed by the agents of project Fear, in capitals.

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We will come to that in the other papers.

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The thing is, this man is actually head of an organisation which is

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declaring itself neutral in the actual debate. Therefore, his

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comments could be seen as difficult for the Chambers of Commerce to deal

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with. He did say he was speaking in a

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personal capacity and his comments were moderate. The theme of the

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papers today is Tory party at war. This particular story is really

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about Boris Johnson having a go at number ten and vice versa, because

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Boris Johnson has said this has been orchestrated by them putting

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pressure on the board, but Number ten is vehemently deny it. You will

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see the Tory act war theme will come through again.

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To come back, the Chambers of Commerce has been neutral. In that

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situation, I do not think the head of it can have a personal opinion,

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because it is so volatile and fiery. He said it was a personal opinion

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and I have no reason to disagree. It is a temporary suspension until

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after the referendum. It is unfortunate. It is turning

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into a nasty campaign. If you weeks to go.

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It will put off people. We are not informing them. Hearing anti-EU

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people saying, this means we can now control our own pensions. How

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ignorant people about what the EU is quite what we need to give them

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information. These things work both ways, it can

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turn people to another side. A debate which will go on until June

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the 23rd. Three and a half months of this. Let

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us stick with the Sunday Telegraph and the Sunday trading story.

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Tory party at all as I was saying. The theme today. Two ministers have

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threatened to quit because the Government wants to push away with

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relaxing the Sunday trading. Up to 50 backbench Tory MPs may rebel. You

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were talking about rebelling in the ranks. I don't know whether they are

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rebelling because they really don't want relaxation of Sunday trading

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laws or whether it is a statement. It strikes me the Government looks

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extraordinarily weak and they will struggle to get this through.

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As an economist, though, looking at the whole trading law in this

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country anyway, would it make any difference to shopkeepers and

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business owners if they have relaxed hours?

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Inevitably. And the people who were there. The people who do the

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shopping, we would be very pleased. No doubt a lot of the shops would be

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pleased as well, especially the large shops. Whether people who work

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there will be so pleased is different. I do think they will find

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it hard to push this through. Osborne has already stood back on

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his pensions reform because of the implications with his party which

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tells you an awful lot. I want to move away from the Tory

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story, there is a genuine story, a lot of people feel we have pushed

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and pushed until shopping is our new religion. I think it is really

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important to rethink this. The idea we must always shocked when we want,

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whether people are able to work, what does it do to our lives to be

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forever spending money? I am becoming very Christian on this. I

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would like to be no shopping. As a Christian, I would like to shop

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on Sunday! Ladies, we are disagreeing like

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politicians. Michael Gove.

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I was going to say Tories at war. This is a security story, another

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twist in the EU debate. We have heard this story before.

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David Cameron has been saying if we leave the EU there is a terrific

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threat to our security. Michael Gove says if we stay, there is a terrific

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threat. There is fear. He has accused Europe

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of growing fascism. And that, he is referring back to Nazism. Here is

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Boris Johnson on the side of Michael Gove saying they don't like the

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fear, the fear mongering among the Brexit people. They fear mongering

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themselves. It is ridiculous. Do you think the public at large who

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will vote in this referendum will be getting confused?

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That is what I suspect. Project Fear on both sides, Michael Gove and

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Boris Johnson are trying to have no Project Fear. I take your point. The

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great British public will think, I'm going to bed for the next three

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months! What a lovely thought.

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No exclamations in the Sunday Times, what is this story?

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I am horrified, everything I write is full of exclamations.

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The new idea unless a sentence starts with the word what or how,

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what a lovely day, how exciting, then unless those sentences begin

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with those words, you cannot use an exclamation.

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Who will police this! Goodness only knows!

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The language police. It will be very confusing for teachers and for their

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young charges. This is absurd. This sentence that

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ends in an exclamation but which does not have one of the grammatical

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patterns shown above in this article, is not considered to be

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creditworthy. I do think too many people are using

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exclamations all the time and it can get irritating.

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I do that. Style wise, it is like a little shriek.

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Do you hear shouting when you see capitals?

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I see nothing wrong with it actually.

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Moving on to the Sunday mail, and H, NHS babies's organs.

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I do not find it shocking. When you look beyond the front page which is

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meant to be shocking, it is very, very skewed in One Direction. One

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can read it in different ways. Parents are given a choice when they

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know their baby is not viable, to either have an abortion, or have

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birth and the organs can be harvested. The same newspapers, when

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they see a real need for proper research around organs, we are the

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first to shout about it. I think this is well done, and people know

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what the tweezers. I think it is fine. We cannot get hysterical all

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the time about foetuses when actually we have many more deaths we

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are not worrying about. You are shaking your head? I find

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the story shocking and unbelievable, the idea some lady is told she has a

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deformed baby, there will be no pressure, oh, no, but imagine being

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in that situation. By the way, would you like to carry to full term, have

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a dead baby, but we can use the organs. .

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I don't agree. As a mother, we can't judge all mothers's feelings. Some

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others might feel, I can do some good. If I was a mother, I would

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have done it. Would you? Do think the issue is

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bigger. It obviously is. It highlights the shortage of available

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organs aesthetically for very small children.

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It does but this is too big a cost, my personal opinion, I was really

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shocked. Moving to the Observer paper. I have

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this, shunned by the family, snubbed, Sylvia Pankhurst is to be

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honoured at last, what is happening? Sylvia was the one who was the

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Socialist who went around saying the Lords should be cut at the knees. I

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think she was going to cut it down which is why they objected. The TUC

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and others are saying it is about time she had recognition. Which

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strikes me as reasonable. It won't be in the grounds of the House of

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Lords but in Clerkenwell Green which is quite a long way away.

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I am glad she is getting recognition and even more that she was a

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socialist like me. And an anti-racist.

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Shock! We have Cromwell, the Cromwell statue must imitate all the

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right wingers who walked by. It is our history.

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It doesn't irritate me. It is International women's Day

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coming up. I am critically pleased about this.

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The Pankhurst we don't really talk about. I can't you go without the

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big wedding. Rupert Murdoch and Jerry Hall are married.

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They have their blessing yesterday. What you make of it?

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I am very happy if she is happy. I think this is not a stupid woman,

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not a gullible woman. If she has decided this is what she wants, be

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happy, Jerry Hall, I won't be a pitch about it. Too many on Twitter

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are being really horrible. They are.

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Stop it, it is her choice. An outbreak of agreement!

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The first one in this session. They are both grown-ups. Not that I would

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point to their ages. It is up to them to make their

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decision. We heard phrases yesterday like two

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worlds colliding, the biggest power couple in the world. Are they?

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All people who have found love? An immensely powerful man, fourth time

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lucky I hope for him. It is not about that. She clearly

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decided she was happy with him. I think you know what? It is really

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hard for winning as they grow older to find someone who really loves

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them and takes care of them if it hasn't worked out before. If he does

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that, fine. I hear from some of the newspapers

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Mick Jagger is not happy. Tough. Then we should really

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celebrate this wedding. It has ruined my day.

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And her first engagement ring at ?2.4 million.

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Thank you very much for coming in. Thanks to Yasmin Alibhai-Brown

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and Ruth Lea. Just a reminder, we take a look

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at tomorrow's front pages every evening at 10:30 and 11:30,

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here on BBC News. Hello. There is more than a hint of

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winter with widespread frost last night and sharp frost on the way

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tonight. Some bright and crisp weather in between. Having said

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that, a few

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