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Welcome to our look ahead at what the Papers will be bringing us


tomorrow. Yasmine Brown and Vincent Moss join us now. Tomorrow's


front-pages are already in, and the Sunday Times leads on a call from


the former Labour Prime Minister, Tony Blair, to crush Isis or be


faced with a terrorist act in Britain that's worse than Paris or


Brussels. He calls on the West to equip Arab Ground Forces.


The Mail on Sunday says convicted terrorists are being paid terrorists


using British aid money and it criticises the Government's


commitment to spending 0.7% of national income on foreign aid. The


telegraph quotes one of America's top generals, David Petraeus as


saying he thinks a Brexit would weaken the West. The Sunday Express


says after the terrorist attacks, it's time for the fightback. It


reports that SAS squads are ready to fly in and protect any town in the


UK. The Star on Sunday leads with "got him! " Saying Belgium police


have arrested the third bomber. He's been charged with murder.


The Observer leads with a warning from the Health Secretary, Jeremy


Hunt. He says if Britain votes to leave the European Union, the NHS


would face budget cuts, falling standards and an Exodus of junior


doctors and nurses. Let's begin and we are going to


start with the Observer and that story that we have talked about, how


all of a sudden now the National Health Service, according to Jeremy


Hunt, is under threat if we decide to leave. Yasmine? Yes. I think this


is interesting because actually I wouldn't have expected Jeremy Hunt


to come in on this debate in quite this way. It's very interesting;


those who want to stay, when they come up with their own take on it,


are accused of project fear by the Brexit lot. But Nick Clegg wrote a


very good piece this week where he said, on the other side with Brexit,


it's project fib, so you have got project fear very suss profig and


there's something in it. It's obvious to me that if we leave,


there will be a problem with some aspects of the National Health


Service. The pressure on it may well go down but I'm not sure the numbers


of people coming into this country will necessarily be going down. So


it's an interesting political move. He's also saying if the economy


doesn't do as well, then Britain won't be able to fund the National


Health Service as it is, that's also another argument he's talking about?


That seems to be his central point which is one that all the Government


ministers who're on the remain side, are saying, which is that if the


economy does worse, that will be bad for the NHS. Many would say when


Jeremy Hunt talks about a potential Exodus of doctors, that the main


cause of that would be Jeremy Hunt himself. Yes. With his plans to


impose contracts they find deeply unplavrmt it's a strange way of


linking the NHS to Brexit. Next week, there will be an Environment


Minister popping up, perhaps the week after that, a Defence Minister.


Getting cynical vibes coming out. Absolutely. We haven't heard a great


deal from Jeremy Hunt about staying in? He's been too busy annoying and


pushing off doctors actually. I never knowingly in my life agreed


with anything Hunt has said but I think he's right that, you know, the


whole link-up with Europe has been very good for health tourism both


ways actually. A lot of our people, you know, people forget how many


British people for example go to France for certain operations, for


certain treatments that are not available here. Do they have to pay


for that? No, they do not. Cosmetic surgery is a lot cheaper in European


countries. My husband had to have an operation on his hand which couldn't


be performed here but was informed in an hour in Paris and he couldn't


have done that. A lot of people are going, not because they have a


better service, but because they have certain specialities which we


don't have. We have had our children go to Poland for cancer treatments,


you know. We are not thinking about how connected we are and how good


that has been with all the problems I understand.


OK. Let us stay with the Brexit but change papers and on now to the


Sunday Times. This isn't the main story but Brexit's big buzz list


backfires. Businesses backing the campaign to leave the European


Union. The paper claiming that's unravelled because some chain they


didn't know they were being signed up. This is an increased problem.


They get lots of worthies, dignitaries to sign a letter and


publish it in a newspaper. The Sunday Times is pointing out it


seems to be unravelling. The cofounder of Carphone Warehouse and


the founder of Phones 4 U were surprised to find themselves on the


list. I find it ironic that both these people founded mobile phone


empires, you would have thought somebody would have rung them up and


told them they were going to put them on the list. Good point. John


Cadwell supported the campaign. You have to check when compiling the


lists. But I'm sure I remember it wasn't one of the staying in open


manned by people that... Yes, absolutely. It seems so far to be a


very unground up debate on both sides. People don't know the facts,


they have not been given the facts at all about the things they need to


know before they can vote. Our media's not been very good at


communicating the basic information to let people make an intelligent


choice, they've just got carried away. It's hard because people argue


about the truth behind the information. Isn't there a


fact-checking website now which is really good and you can go there and


you can check these facts and give you the proper numbers completely


objective numbers and I think that's where we have to go now with this


debate. We have a long few weeks ahead of it as well. Let's change


story but stick with the Sunday Times and the headline on the main


story Blair; crush Isis or horror will intensify and he's calling for


the West to equip Arab ground forces. Let's come on to that aspect


of it, but Tony Blair calling for a steppup of military action. He never


gets over this. He must have had such a lot of guns and soldiers when


he was a little boy. There is this impulse in him. I mean he's right,


the Isis threat is at a different level from Al-Qaeda or Taliban. I


would never deny that. I think it's taken everybody by shock, they're


very well organised. Why are they well organised? Because some of the


people who're organising their campaigns were Ba'athists, Generals


and top people in the Iraq Army, the two allies got rid of them. But his


need to go and use weaponry is astonishing, it's kind of... I don't


know, psychosis. I don't understand that. This is not going to go away.


We have to find different ways, I don't know. He does make the point


which many would agree with that, when it comes to Isis, they can't be


contained, they have to be defeated. That's the idea that every time it's


an arrest it's a great victory and we are all safe again is not the


case and it's a systemic problem that has to be dealt with where it's


happening, if you like, in the region and it's no good just


arresting and picking people up in European cities, it's far deeper and


Tony Blair is saying a Rapid Reaction Force should be set up to


deal with incidents where they happen. That's fine but it's still


not going to solve the problem. Annal cysts saying you can't crush a


collective like this? -- analysts say. And who has spend over $07


billion in the last few years getting into young Muslim people's


heads? Saudi Arabia. What does Mr Blair have to say about this allie


of ours Saudi Arabia, who has sent this infection around the world?


Nothing. Strangely admitted. Saudi Arabia of course would dispute that.


But what I want to bring you now is, he's talking about Arab ground


forces. Now that to me begs the question, which Arab ground forces.


Yes. There's always been a view that nations in the region should be


doing more, not least because everybody in the West is very


reluctant to commit ground troops into these areas and it's a


coalition of willing countries and nations around there, but as you


say, all that is a sort of a real hot bed of problems in itself


because of all the rivalries in the area. So how you sort that out, I


don't know. That's what the West did, they went and armed the


so-called good guys and look where we are now, we don't know who the


good guys are any more. Exactly. Just on this, do you think now, like


him or don't like him, do people listen to Tony Blair still? I don't


think so. I don't think so. I don't wholly blame him for what's


happening, you know, as other people seem to think if we hadn't have had


this war in Iraq, we wouldn't be experiencing what we are


experiencing. In my view, the project has been funded by Saudi


Arabia and this is on record, I'm not making it up. But where I think


it's very sad is that people have forgotten his good record now


because he is so focussed on trying to clear his name over the war, he


did some brilliant stuff with the nation. But he's still in the


Spotlight because we are still awaiting the Chilcot Report. Which


is mentioned as well in this piece. We'll be dead by then! Still no date


on that. OK so that was the Sunday Times' main story. Now back to


Brexit, on to the Sunday Telegraph. And this, another US intervention,


but this time it's General Petraeus warning that being within the


European Union makes Britain stronger against the Jihadists. Are


you buying that, Vincent? It's a very good article actually, a better


one than the Tony Blair article in the way it's written, it inVokes a


Chilean tone and you have the top American general warning about the


isolationism of Brexit. He makes the case and it's an Easter


weekend, apart from terror events in Europe, there's not too much going


on domestically. Let's not forget David Petraeus was the person who


made the biggest mistakes after the war in Iraq. The failures, he was


the one who made all the bad decisions, so for him to stand up


and say very much that people should listen to Isis is not wise. But they


are determined to get the message out there. I suspect this would have


been the campaign warning of the risks. But why is it in the


Telegraph which is more or less Brexit isn't it? As a lead story?


Yes. Even the sceptical papers, the propapers, they want to run


reasonably good stories at the moment. You would expect the


Telegraph to be very much on that side of the argument, but it's a


good story and probably one of the better Brexit stories around in the


Sunday papers. Certain think Brexit and Islamic state dominate in the


headlines, as we probably expected. This development with general


Petraeus comes after we were told we were going to hear President Obama


saying we should remain in? It would have been different. Do you think we


are going to see more and more foreign backers give us their


opinion about what to stay over the coming week? It's always hard when,


especially America intervenes, and it's very hard the other way. There


was a time when the last American election when some big names started


to say vote for Obama and it was taken very badly in America. I think


it's the same here. There is this sense that America cannot tell us


what to do on Europe. I don't think it plays well. It will always


dominate in Britain. If you are an American visiting or interviewing an


American politician, whether it's the BBC or a newspaper, they are


always going to be asked and they follow the same broad script which


is, we prefer when Europe is united rather than divided.


It was the Observer piece about the fact that although the remain in


campaign, according to the opinion polls would suggest they are still


in the lead, just, that Downing Street's worried about the number of


undecideds and, are you getting the feeling that they are quite a


significant number? Well, they will decide. We saw with the febrile


nature around the general election which most predicted wrongly, lots


of people won't consider this issue until much closer to June 23, the


referendum date, probably the last week and that critical proportion of


undecideds may swing the votes. We have the May elections coming up. We


need to be looking at that first and then looking at the June referendum.


It's taken off and now there's no putting it back into the bottle. I


can't help but wonder whether the undecideds are being put off by all


of the mood music? I think so. I think they tune out, by and large,


and they'll tune back in in the days running up to the poll. You have


very strong views. Those who feel strongly won't change their mind


about it. Those who're firmly in are firmly in, those firmly out are


firmly out. It's the critical 10-15% who are undivided. For young people


it's not even a big issue, they are brought up as Europeans now but yes,


it's... I mean all we need is pop stars singing... I'm sure that will


be the next thick. -- next thing. The Mail on Sunday, time to squeeze


this is in. The story that Petronella Wyatt is breaking her


silence on Boris Johnson's affair. Why are the guns out for Boris


Johnson in the Mail, do you think? And now, she's been silenced in the


interim years but when it happened, there was a huge amount that we all


read and remember about it. I think Boris at Select Committee this week,


some of the way Boris is arguing about a Brexit, lazily, picking


facts which are not facts, is upsetting a lot of people, but that


doesn't explain why the Mail on Sunday has decided to remind people


of his hot days at the Spectator. And he's the poster boy of the


campaign as well? Because George Osborne had a very bad budget and he


was always seen as really the potential successor to David Cameron


apart from Boris, the scrutiny is now starting to fall on Boris


Johnson as potentially the next Conservative Leader and potential


think next Prime Minister because I don't think David Cameron will stay


to the last day of the 2020 Parliament so the scrutiny is there


and he had an interesting piece in the Times today by Matthew Paris who


was extremely critical of Boris Johnson, that's sparked renewed


interest and renewed scrutiny and explained why the Mail on Sunday


have turned their focus and lens firmly on this. Do you think we are


going to get more on this Much more and he's a fascinating and


interesting character. Indeed! What papers - it's interesting to see


that it's the Mail - they have been extremely supportive? Not least


because Rachel Johnson, Boris's sister writes. She's a columnist on


the Mail on Sunday, yes, so it's a surprise. Maybe it's just simply


commerce - people love gossip of this kind and they'll buy the paper.


Of course we don't know what is inside, we haven't had the inside


papers. But you can imagine this will be a good read. Yes, with some


of the Brexit stuff as well. Yes. I can tell you will be desperate to


get your hands on this. I know all of it because it's been around for


such a long time. An odd time to bring it out now, except because the


guns are out for Boris to focus. He's either going to be the next


Conservative Leader or not and these stories will play a big part. Miss


Wyatt must still be very angry about what happened. A woman scorned is


doesn't... We'll leave that hanging in the air. I know because I was one


and, you know, we don't go quietly. That is it from the papers this


hour, thank you to Yasmine and Vincent. Back later for the 11. 30


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