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And they say we are always late. Not tonight!

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers

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With me are Ben Chu, economics editor at the Independent,

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and Charlie Wells, European features reporter at the Wall Street Journal.

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Welcome to you both. Tomorrow's front pages, let's make a start.

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The Financial Times leads with remarks made by President Obama

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that if Britain left the EU it would send the UK to the 'back

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The i quotes the President during his trip to London saying

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Britain is on it's own if it leaves the European Union.

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The Guardian writes Mr Obama defended his intervention

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in UK affairs because the country 'needs to know'.

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THE TIMES FEATURES THAT STORY AS WELL.

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The Express says the American has been condemned

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by pro-Brexit campaigners for trying to 'blackmail' Britain

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The Mail headlines that Tony Blair's firm was paid ?5.3

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a year to help a dictator in Kazakhstan.

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The Mirror has an exclusive with a woman who says

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she was the next planned victim of teenager James Fairweather,

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who was convicted today of double murder in Guildford.

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Quite a lot on oh Barr on the front pages tonight. -- on Obama. The

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Times's headline is Brexit will leave Britain at the back of the

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queue. Rebuke the Johnson over Kenyan jibe. I will show you what

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they started the evening with and then quickly changed. It has been an

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extraordinary day, where politicians in this country feel able to be

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quite rude about the sitting American president. Yes, Hail To the

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chief if you are on the remain campaign and get out of the town,

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who do you think you are if you are on the Leave campaign. He has come

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over and rained on the Leave campaign's central premise. They

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said if we leave the EU it is fine from a trade point of view, we will

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do another deal with America and the rest of the world and it will be

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fine. He says that is just a fantasy. If you leave the EU, don't

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imagine we would do a quick deal, you are at the back of the queue. He

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really scotched that idea it would be quick and easy to carry on

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trading. We might not get a trade deal quickly, but there probably

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would be one, he's just saying it would be very quick. The idea

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Britain and the US wouldn't carry on trading is probably far-fetched as

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well, isn't it? In a sense but I think he is giving a very rational

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view. They want to negotiate with a large economies that will benefit

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the United States. The other issue here is president. If the US create

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a bilateral trade agreement with one country, other countries around the

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world will start thinking, why don't I do one-on-one deal with the United

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States? That might work better for me. The US don't want out. Let me

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gesture you on camera three... Thank you. This is what the Times looks

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like a short while ago. It said Obama trades blows on EU. I cannot

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decide what is the tougher headline. It was people like the justice

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minister and Boris Johnson being quite insulting towards the

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president. Well that even resonate with him? I think Barack Obama is

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used in attacks. He has been used to dealing with a very hostile

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environment in Washington, DC over seven years, both with Democrats and

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Republicans attacking him. I think this will probably feel like a light

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British spring rain. How much more candid do you think Barack Obama was

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compared to how we might have been? Some commentators in the States has

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said he went a bit off script, which is probably what David Cameron was

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pleased to hear. I am sure he was the lighted. I don't think he was

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holding back much, but at the same time, personally I think it is a

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perfectly reasonable thing to say. He is saying what he thinks his

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country would do if Britain was out of the EU. It is a policy statement.

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He has very carefully hedged around what he saw and that it was for the

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British people to decide but that was his view. I think Dominic Grabb

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has said he is a lame duck president. That... Not very

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respectful. But it is to some extent something that was always on about

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presidents as they were nearing the end of their term. The thing Boris

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Johnson did about being half Kenyan, tribal grievances... That is worse

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and that is why people are saying it is dog whistle-stop. As Charlie

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knows very well, in the US there is this long-standing smear that he is

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not really American. That he has foreign roots and so on. Boris

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Johnson seems to be piggybacking off that to discredit the strong message

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she has come over with. Out of the two, Boris Johnson is the one to get

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hot under the collar about. The Daily Express had it as well, the

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threat scaremongering over EU exit. We know the Daily Express has thrown

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its weight behind the Leave campaign. I think threat is a strong

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word here. Having seen the press conference I would refer to it more

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as a warning. There has been a lot of Twitter activity on this. A lot

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of people and angry about President Obama imposing his opinion on this.

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What is important to remember is he was responding to arguments being

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made from the Leave campaign. A response is not necessarily a

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threat. Maybe something he didn't respond to with this argument that

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the United States wouldn't cede sovereignty to anybody else. So why

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would the United States be arguing Britain should remain in an

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organisation, in a club, the EU, which has meant in some peoples

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views we have ceded sovereignty to Brussels? Boris Johnson said that

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was hypocritical, and in a lot of ways it is. How can you tell them

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and do something you wouldn't do? But I think something important to

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note is the United States and the United Kingdom are in very different

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geographical locations and geopolitical contacts. And so maybe

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they would need to form different relationships with different

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institutions. Although there is Nato to consider, and the United Nations?

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Yes. And the US has ceded sovereignty because it is part of

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Nato and has this mutual defence arrangement and is part of the UN.

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So it is not entirely true, as Boris Johnson said, that the United States

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never cede sovereignty. But the other point is, this issue of

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sovereignty, you cede some sovereignty to get some power and

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authority in the world, it is a trade-off. It is not let's give it

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up and get nothing back. That is a point that should be registered in

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all these debates. Magnification is a word he used. Yes, you can achieve

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more. That was one of the central point is President Obama was making.

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We want a strong UK because we want their influence in the EU to get

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things done. We're weeks and weeks away from the vote so one wonders

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what difference Barack Obama has said today makes. It will be a slow

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build-up to that late June vote. Perhaps Angela Merkel has more

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influence on UK voters than Barack Obama. It will be small incremental

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steps that influence people. A quick look at the FT which says it would

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send the UK back to the trade queue. A picture of David Cameron and

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Barack Obama meeting. We spoke about the special relationship and how

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special it is. Winston Churchill has a lot to answer for. It is

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interesting, the word Q. Is it an American word? Charlie said it is

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not, he said they would they back of the line. This has led to some

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suggestions words were put in the President's mouth by Downing Cameron

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and given away by the choice of language. But he knew who he was

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talking to, his audience? That is right. You would say queue wouldn't

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you? I would. Omission scandal sparks mass recall. We all know

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about the trials and tribulations of Volkswagen at it is not just

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confined to them? This story has been around for with Volkswagen and

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a drip is getting worse. There was always a suspicion, was it just

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Volkswagen or were other car-makers involved? The rumours were everyone

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was at it and it does seem it is a much, much bigger scandal than

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originally thought half a year ago. Mitsubishi is involved in a probe. I

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do like the word probe. Normal people don't use it. They are being

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investigated by the Department of Justice in America. The upshot is

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there is an enormous recall, 630,000 vehicles which these car-makers are

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prepared to take back because there may be something dodgy about these

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cars, in terms of their missions. There has been a separate recall

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announcement today from Diack riser. This is nothing to do with the

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omission scandal but the fact they seem to roll away as soon as you get

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out of the car, which is not ideal. -- emissions. No, not ideal.

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Recalling 1.1 million cars and mid-size SUVs. Saying they give

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shifters may confuse drivers. That was done better if you read it. But

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a huge problem. And the issue of trust, the damage to the brand? The

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global auto industry is facing huge challenge, especially with. The way

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young people are thinking about transportation is fundamentally

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changing. These bad PR revelations are adding to it. Why are government

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regulated test so bad? Why were they before not picking up on these

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emissions? There were claims that some of the emissions problems have

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been overlooked in Europe, weren't there? It seemed very murky who knew

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what and when. I think the line is they knew what the tests were and

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they knew what bits of software or whatever to get under the bar that

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was being set that maybe wasn't being policed as there is clear that

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could have been and there was a nod and wink between regulators and the

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car-makers and that is why you got this huge scandal building up over

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many years until it exploded. It all has to come out. This is not one

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that will end, it will go on. And take a long time to put right.

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Moving onto page eight of the Mail. Mass migration is damaging Britain.

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This is a leaked report which reveals, says the paper, civil

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servants concern at EU in flux. What is it saying in particular?

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Essentially it is saying well-educated people from Eastern

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Europe are coming to the United Kingdom and are benefiting from

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employment, benefiting from employment goods and that the

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average Brits are losing out on this. A lot of these European

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migrants are very well-educated but working in low skilled jobs. But you

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get in work benefits currently, which is what David Cameron has

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tried to address? That's right. It is a strange document because it

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tells us exactly what we already knew. It talks about the numbers at

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EU migrants who have come in over the past year, which is in every

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office for National statistics jobs report. It tells what the plans to

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tackle that are in terms of government strategy. We know that

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because David Cameron has told us on numerous occasions, wants to curb

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the accessed in work benefits. As far as I can see there is nothing in

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this which isn't in the public domain already. And there is a quote

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from a DUP source saying these are the facts in the public domain. It

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is dressing up an internal report as a big revelation, when there isn't

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anything we didn't know. I think the context is interesting, because the

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Leaves campaign, and I think the Daily Mail could be considered to be

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in that camp, wants to get the story away from this awkward trade stuff

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of Obama and back onto their strong suit, which is people don't like the

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amount of immigration coming from the EU. These kind of stories is

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where they want to move the debate too, because this is where the

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public concerns are. It is another report, even if it tells us

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something we already know or suspected, that helps the Brexit

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campaign? It underlines and says it is not just politicians and yet but

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civil servants? Absolutely. And touching on this emotion there are

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disenfranchised, low income people perhaps not from London but all

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parts of the UK who are still struggling to find jobs. What is

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being done to help those people? It is an incredibly complicated

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picture. Let's finish with a rather complicated story over three

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columns. British troops in Libya will be Isis targets. Why is this a

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pertinent story? It is pertinent because they are going back into

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Libya. This idea that Libya is a complete mess. Something President

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Obama was talking about not long ago and blaming David Cameron along with

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others for taking their eye off the ball. Saying they hadn't done their

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bit. Yes. There is a drive to stabilise this key country in North

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Africa. The proposal is there will be British logistics and training

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people on the ground. That is all? Yes. But what is in this Times

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report is some distinguished former military guys like Lord West, the

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first Sea Lord and General Jackson are saying, hang on, let's be very

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careful about this. If we put troops on the ground, even if they are not

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combat troops, they could be easily targeted by IS, we know are

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operating in the country. It is trepidation from top brass about

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what we are quietly going into here. And some quotes from Libyans,

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politicians in particular, who you wonder if they want these troops

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there? Yes, and a very chaotic situation in Libya. A number of

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competing militias trying to establish power. Something else that

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is interesting is Iraq is mentioned in the third line of the story.

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Hopefully we can assume a lot of the government figures here are may be

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learning from the lessons that they made in Iraq. And another point on

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the relevance of this story is numbers the government have been

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talking about, Libya being a direct threat to the UK. After Paris and

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Brussels there is this idea that it needs to be stabilised. And a lot of

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people leave Africa from Libyans shores and make their way across the

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most incredibly dangerous journeys, large stretches of the

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Mediterranean? Absolutely. It is a complete mess. There is no central

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government. Thereafter actions fighting. And as you say, a

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destabilising force, not just the North Africa but for Europe as well.

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I am sure that is exactly why they are trying to address it very late

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in the day. What is the American involvement question we heard in

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March that criticism of the foreign policy Ben mentioned by Barack Obama

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rev David Cameron which the White House... Not pushed under the carpet

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but changed the complexion of? Distanced themselves from. David

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Cameron, President Obama and Angela Merkel will be meeting in Germany

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this week to talk about these plans. I think we will learn a bit more

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about what these leaders have in store. That is all we have time for.

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Thank you both very much for coming in. Don't forget, all the papers are

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the third day in a road north west Wales saw some of the best weather.

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