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The mother and a third child have been seriously injured.

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are the broadcaster John Stapleton and the former

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government minister and vote leave campaigner Esther McVey.

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your first time with us, thank you. Thank you. You will keep us in good

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order. Yes, it will be very civilised. Tomorrow's from pages,

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starting with the Independent. Online as criticism from a group of

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academics that both sides of the EU referendum are making misleading and

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inaccurate statements. The Justice Secretary Michael Gove has written

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in the Times that a free for all EU migration will put the NHS at risk.

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The uncertainty facing the high-street retailer BHS is the top

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story in the Guardian, with reports almost 11,000 jobs are at risk.

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According to the metro girls as young as three are being sold by

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their families for less than ?400 following the earthquake in Nepal.

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Green belt under siege. That's the headline in the i. The FT says

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Heathrow faces funding black hole for transport links to the airport,

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third runway goes ahead. New Day leads on scientists and launching

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new research into miscarriages. The express wants a snowy blast will

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sweep across Britain over the next ten days. It wouldn't be right if we

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didn't start with the EU referendum. Here it is on the Independent. The

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verdict on the EU campaigns, actor -- academics criticising both sides.

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Interesting pictures, they look like they are singing to each other. Kiss

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and make up! Neither side coming out well in this. Well, maybe both sides

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have had so much passion behind and they have as many people as they can

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behind it, so they are getting a bit carried away. Then they are saying

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it would cost every family ?3400, and the Alt say ?450 a week.

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Temperatures are being raised either way. I guess going back to Barack

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Obama, that raised... The president, he has raised the temperature is as

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well somewhat. I thought it was interesting that we need to look at

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what he said when he is talking about trade deals. We don't have a

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trade deal with America. Europe hasn't got one. And we've happily

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traded all this time and we have 56 billion going either way. We have

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TTIP. Yes, controversial. Jeremy Corbyn was an out. When Barack Obama

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came over here, and he is fully entitled to say what he wants to

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say, but what's in America's interests... He wants TTIP. Now he

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wants and is desperate to have it. It is in America's interests not

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necessarily ours. I think the headline sums up what many people

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including myself have thought. We hear these arguments, one set of

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facts presented by one politician one day, the same facts represented

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the next day by different politician and a different conclusion. What

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this piece says is there is evidence to show a lot of them are bogus

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claims, and supported by evidence and at worst simply untrue. At the

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end of the day I think a lot of people like myself, I know you have

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committed yourself, but a lot of people at the end of the day have

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said to themselves, I don't know to believe in this. Who do I trust? You

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look at the array of people before you. You say, do I trust that lot or

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that lot? I am for in, on the basis that I have more faith in the people

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saying stay in them come out. Why? What makes you say that, a gut

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feeling? Yes. And with all due respect... Show me the piece of

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convincing evidence produced by an independent body that says we would

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be better off if we left. It is a stab in the dark. It is a flight

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into the unknown. They cannot say with any degree of certainty that we

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will be better off. I guess you are right, we don't know. There is lots

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of supposition either way. I want to be a bit more like yourself, on the

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fence, maybe more in. When I was a minister and going over to Europe on

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doing the negotiations with the other ministers for employment it

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was the first time I saw how Europe worked, how much it lacked a

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democracy, how much it lacked transparency. How much you didn't

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know what was going on. The fact laws are made not by elected people

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but unelected people. That was the start. Then I thought, hang on it

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doesn't sign its books. Anyone else who didn't do that would be in

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prison. And don't think it is that safe staying in. I'm not saying it

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is ideal. Some of the judgments that come down from the European courts,

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leave you puzzled. But some of the judgments come down from our own

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courts leave you puzzled. My view is better the devil you know. You say

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it is not very democratic but other people will say, we vote for MEPs...

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They don't initiate law. We send our ministers to all of those meetings

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and the argument is if we are not round the table... Ministers here by

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and large have been voting in. I would have thought like you until I

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saw what happened and then I saw those people don't initiate laws.

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When I see who's doing the deals behind the scenes, things you will

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think you have got they can at the last minute Saints, you haven't. For

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me the biggest thing is their finances. We said the banks were too

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big to fail. We are getting that with Europe now. It would be better

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if we could untangle ourselves because the finances across Europe

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are bad. It will be close. A reminder, I don't have an opinion.

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Just setting the record straight. Let's quickly look at the Telegraph.

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We don't have the front page yet but we have some of the comments from

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Boris Johnson's: in the Daily Telegraph. He is saying it is too

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soon for those who want to remain to think it is in the bag. The vote

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Leave have had a bad week. Boris's comments about Obama's background

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even by his own supporters were said not to be the best. Even Nigel

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Farage said go for the ball, not the man. Others have said it makes him

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unfit to be a Prime Minister. Comments about his background when

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very badly, even with his own supporters. But Boris, in his very

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highly paid newspaper column said Cameron and his mates are growing

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too soon. He criticised David Cameron. For achieving two thirds of

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diddly squat in his prerendered random negotiations. He says, if

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they think it is all over, they are mistaken. They are crowing too soon.

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I think it will be close. Do you? Yes. I think my generation, a lot of

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my generation will vote to leave and I think the younger generation, if

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they go to the polls, will vote to stay. There is a long way to go and

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it will be close but I think you are right about the generational

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difference. That was the generation that took us in. They say, we

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thought it was one thing and is totally something else. I think it

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is something to make note of, the older generation say, what a

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mistake, let's get out. The FT and something different. Transport

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crunch, black hole over Heathrow runway. This is about war would need

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to be upgraded in the infrastructure leading up to it. I live near

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Heathrow Airport. I am opposed to a third runway and have been for a

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long time, as is Zac Goldsmith, the Richmond MP and other MPs in the

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area. And so is Boris. Not just because of the increased aircraft

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noise and pollution it will cause, but also we have said for a long

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time, the congestion on the road that would cause. What this piece is

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saying is TFL, transport for London, are saying the inquiry into the

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third runway savagely underestimated the cost of upgrading these roads to

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the tune of ?16 billion. Heathrow are saying that is nonsense. They

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have listed in their assessment everything that needs to be done in

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London. They are sticking to their guns and saying it will cost ?16

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billion more than originally forecast. My personal view is it

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will never happen. Your man David Cameron said we won't have a third

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runway and then changed his mind, put it off and put it. Kicked down

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the road. It shows how contentious it was, that there were so many

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consultations and then looking at environment and all the other

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things. To be honest, we are an island and we need various forms of

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communication, getting people and goods on an off. I think we

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personally need many more airports. I think you might need Gatwick,

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Heathrow and I thought Boris's island for a future period of time

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would be good as well. But we do need runways. I am not denying that.

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I say there are pretty good economic and environmental reasons... Where

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should it be? Gatwick. That won't be enough, where else? Another one in

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Liverpool, Manchester... I think we need much more. Let's have a look at

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the i. Jeremy Hunt rejects calls to trial junior doctor contracts. This

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suggested rolling out junior doctor contracts in a limited number of

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hospitals, just to test it. Jeremy Hunt is saying no. I think he was

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also saying it was going to be slowly rolled out anyway. It was

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slowly being rolled out and that is why he probably says what is the

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difference between that and the pilot. It is simple, what the

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proposal was, test it and have an independent body assess it and make

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a judgment at the end of that trial period as to whether or not it

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works. He said, you are having if you like it or not. If there is in

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wrong with it, we will put it right along the way. He said let's go back

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and have the discussions and negotiate. What were the doctors

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offered, they were offered a reduction in the hours. It wasn't

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about them working too much. They have an increase in wages. What he

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was saying on Saturday we cannot afford for people to being on that

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amount, double or extra time on Saturday. This slow roll-out was

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what he preferred. I personally, I worked in the Department for Work

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and Pensions, we did have pilots and reject if it worked and move it

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forward. In this instance because the negotiations have gone on so

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long they have foregone the pilot period and people have come forward

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and said, we believe, or there might not be a strike. They never said,

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this is what will be happening. Maybe he is getting the feeling to

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kick this into the long grass. We have the potential of thousands of

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operations and appointments being postponed this week. And people

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suffering to some degree. This was a sensible compromise, wasn't it? Do

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it on a trial basis? It was a way to end the deadlock? What you had seen

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is that they were only possibilities, when you lead the

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letter carefully there are many get out clauses. If he didn't think that

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was watertight, what was being offered, he also said what we are

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doing is a slow roll-out. Jeremy Hunt's later stance, people say it

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is evidence of him being intransigent. I don't thing everyone

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has the full facts. If you genuinely interested in your patience and want

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what's best and then you looked at the deal on the table for what we

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can afford... I have looked into the costings of locums, of the extra

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hours and thought, how do we make that work for everybody to have a

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good public service that we are all paying for question that is what we

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want. With the i, and I declare an interest here. Fox's five points

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from fairy tale finale. That is quite difficult to say. You did it

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well. Thank you. Leicester City beat Swansea 4-0 today. It is lovely on

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Twitter that people keep giving me a running commentary. It is a great

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story. You may note, I am a big man city fan. Nothing would please me

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more than if Man City won. Manchester City might still win the

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Champions League, that is an option, but nothing pleases me more than

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seeing Leicester City. Last year they were battling relegation. The

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odds were 5000 to one. I remember at Christmas when they said this person

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is that however much on and I thought it was fantastic then. To be

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here now, and it is like a fairy tale football story. It is not all

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about the money and it was on about the names, this is a team that has

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come up. I watched them today on the telly and effortless as they were

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scoring goal after goal. 18 months ago football fans like myself didn't

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know who they were. Now we'll want them. Claudio Ranieri the current

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manager is getting a lot of credit for what he has done. But how much

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of their success is down to what Nigel Pearson set up? A big chunk of

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that squad were his. I thought they play fantastically as a team. It is

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not a load of individuals wanting to come on and show off. They are

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coming together and say, let's do it together. That, to me, when I see

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them working together is why they are where they are. They play as a

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team and want to win. That is why they knock spots off anyone else in

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the Premier League. It is so scary at this point. Terrifying. No, no, I

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think they will do little stop they are well on the way now. No point

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putting any money on now. If someone else beat them to the title they

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would be very unpopular. They would. I think it should be like the Tour

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de France where the winner on the final day is allowed to get on with

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it. Finally, the Express, we know they love a weather story. We love

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the weather in this country, love talking about it. Snowy blast to

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sweep Britain. It seems like a bit of this with when we are close to

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the end of April. The central heating went on again in my house

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this weekend and I thought it will cost a lot of money, this bad

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weather. It was cold. It is ridiculous that this time of year. I

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have been deadheading my hydrangeas and look at this. I only did it last

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weekend. Mrs Stapleton came in this afternoon and said it is too cold

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for gardening. All the bedding plants after sale and you should not

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buy them at this point unless you can put them cover. I sound like I

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know what I'm talking about! Sometimes it snows in April. Whose

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son that? I don't know. Prince. A lyric for every occasion. It was

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quite civilised. I promised you. We were just warming up for the next

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one! Esther and John will be back at 11:30pm for another look at the

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front pages. Stay with us on BBC News, at 11 o'clock more on

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President Obama's warning it could take the UK ten years to negotiate

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its own deal with the US. Coming up next, Meet The Author.

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