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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are the international editor of the Economist, Helen Joyce.

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And the chief political correspondent of the Sun,

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Welcome. We can run through the front pages.

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Stories relating to the EU referendum dominate

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many of the front pages, including the Metro,

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which quotes Boris Johnson calling the Prime Minister "demented"

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for suggesting that Brexit could raise the risk

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The Telegraph has claims that David Cameron is refusing to take

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part in live TV debates ahead of the referendum.

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The claim in the Express is that Brussels plans to replace

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household appliances for energy efficient alternatives.

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Elsewhere, the Financial Times reports on government plans

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to ring-fence the British Steel pension fund, in order

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to make Tata Steel more attractive to buyers.

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The I previews the government's white paper on the future

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of the BBC, saying that higher paid stars will have their salaries made

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A pledge from David Cameron to clamp down on financial corruption

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And the Times leads on the same story and also has images

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of the Duchess of Cornwall cheering on one of her horses

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We can kick off and we will look at the Telegraph newspaper saying David

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Cameron rejected TV debates on Europe. Were they ever on the cards?

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I would say for camera not. It was a situation where you can guess what

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people think there is in it for them and for camera there is nothing.

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Partly because it makes him go head-to-head with someone in his

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party which makes the Tories look disunited which they are. Also the

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person you would... Who would most want to talk to him is Boris Johnson

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and he is good at this sort of thing. There is a quote from Boris

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Johnson saying, put it this way, saying he would be up for a debate,

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saying I would looked like a wimp if I said no. Would you think Boris

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would have more to gain the Cameron? Only the Leave campaigners could

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benefit. Wembley Arena was booked for the head-to-head. They want

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three on each side, very close to referendum day and David Cameron is

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worried if the Tories go head-to-head on that it will be bad.

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We learn that he is not ducking the issue. He will do 30 minutes of

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questions either before, followed by 30 minutes of questions to Nigel

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Farage, which pleases him, who was kicking off he was not invited to

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the debate and there will be an examination of David Cameron on Sky

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News and the big losers seem to be the BBC. His advisers would say the

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strategy worked in terms of the general election, so they know what

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they are doing. It can be controlled. The 30 minutes. You do

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not have the same potential for a massive mess. He is good at it. He

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does town hall meetings and he is good on his feet when he is taking

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questions. He is the Prime Minister and looks prime ministerial when he

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does them and it allows him to control the room. Most people are

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pleased to ask a question of the Prime Minister. They would not

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follow it up the same way Boris might. Exactly. A smart move. The

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rhetoric between them is to be heating up. In the Metro they have

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Boris Johnson calling David Cameron demented, quote, I think this talk

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of World War III and bubonic plague is totally demented, frankly, says

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Boris Johnson. I suspect the bubonic plague came from his fertile

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imagination. I think he suggests it is exaggerated. What is

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entertaining, Boris is complaining Cameron has been saying one thing

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one time and another thing another, but the pot calling the kettle

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black. He has cheek. There is an issue with Boris's ambitions.

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Everyone takes the view he has gone on the Brexit side to help his

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leadership ambitions. That only works if written votes for Brexit

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and if we don't and he wants a Cabinet job, the more he says the

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Prime Minister is demented, the less his chance of getting a decent job

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when Karen puts the party back together. Relations between them,

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are they getting worse because of the debate, or is it friendly

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rivalry? I think there is an element of showmanship. The longer it goes

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on, the Prime Minister is feeling this personally and he takes issue

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with loyalty and people he sees as disloyal. He has given Cabinet

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ministers leeway but I think he thinks that some are starting to

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abuse that. We have the I looking at the White Paper on the BBC saying

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mega pay deals at the BBC will be revealed and stars paid over

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?450,000 will be named. Not sure why 450 in particular. I have no idea!

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What you think about? I think it is irrelevant. Things need to happen

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but is that one of them, will it make a difference? I don't know

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what, the independence of the BBC. It is making sure we know how the

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licence fee is being spent and it will be dressed up as a great

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victory. It is a climb down because the government wanted to make people

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earning over 455 -- ?150,000 the same as the Prime Minister, but I

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think 450,000 is the salary of the DG and that is why it has been

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picked. We might get to know the pay of the people. I am not sure you

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will be dragged into the pay deals. Unfortunately not! What about the

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White Paper? I am interested in the notion we could use I play abroad as

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licence payers. I am on that level, the consumer side. On your holiday!

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That is the level which you are getting comment from me. I think

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what we will get is something that looks more pro-BBC than some of the

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rhetoric we have had. Is that a result of a battle behind? There has

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been battling behind-the-scenes. Some of the things in the paper may

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be about Strictly not being on at the same time as the X Factor is

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scaremongering. What there will be also it is important things for the

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future of journalism. That the BBC might have too paid for rivals'

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local journalists. The website puts local news and it is killing off

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local papers, so siphoning off Arnie to local papers to keep journalism,

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the more devolution we have, the more local mayors there are, that's

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there are proper local papers analysing what is going on. If you

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are running a local paper, do you want a BBC journalist doing some of

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your reporting, say court reporting? What I think you don't want is to be

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squeezed out. Everybody who has worked on local papers knows you can

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turn up at a press conference with four outlets from the BBC. It is

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David versus Goliath sometimes. It is vital people use their local

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papers and do not think they can get it on the BBC. It is the future of

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journalism because that is the traditional route. The Guardian. We

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had comments caught on the microphone of the Prime Minister

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about corruption ahead of the summit, where he said Afghanistan

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and Nigeria were fantastically corrupt. Now the Guardian is

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reporting a crackdown on dirty money. The measures if they happen,

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that is great. They say they want beneficial ownership, the real

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owners behind Shell companies and trusts, which can be hidden, they

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want real owners to be named on a public register, which would be

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great. They have said several times they are going to do this, so if

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they do it now that is fabulous and I hope other countries follow them

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will stop the scene. Craig you have a theory on whether the Prime

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Minister, was it a mistake when he said they were fantastically

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corrupt. There was a cheeky look at the camera when he said the words

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fantastically corrupt and nobody was talking about the summit until he

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was caught saying what it then turns out the Nigerian and Afghan

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president are prepared to say, their countries are corrupt and they are

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trying to fix it. Maybe I am giving his spin operation... That is quite

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a conspiracy theory. You think they sit in Downing Street coming up with

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plans like that? I don't put anything past them. I suppose it

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worked in the sense we are talking about it. If that were true. We are

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talking about an anti-corruption Summit that would not be at the top

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of the agenda. And on the same day as the BBC White Paper. Is it an

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important issue? Absolutely. Tremendously so. Not least because

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it is linked with tax evasion and avoidance and one thing we have seen

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from the government since 2010 is every budget they announce a measure

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that they will get money from tax evasion and avoidance. They have to

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find a way of getting this cash from people and this would help. One

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thing they plan to do is ensure we know which foreign companies own all

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property in the UK. If that stops foreign money buying property that

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is a lot of money not going to be exchanged via the land Registry and

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so on. It may be -- going to the Exchequer. They need money to come

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in but there is also the perception because they are seen as the friends

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of the rich, the Tories, and they need to look like they are stopping

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rich friends from hiding cash. We will end with the story about it a

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thought, sent home from work according to the Daily Express, for

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refusing to wear high heels. She is a receptionist. Apparently it is OK

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for companies to have dress codes and it is OK for them to insist

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women wear make up and high heels as part of a dress code. I am at a desk

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all day and I wear trainers. You are not forced to wear high heels?

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Nobody except a man could think these are things you should wear all

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day if that is what you do not want to do. If she signed up for a job

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where the dress code is high heels and she turned up without high heels

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and was told she needed to wear them and she was sent home when she

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didn't. Do you not think there is something wrong with the dress code?

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It is perfectly legal. If they said you have to wear a red skirt and

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jacket like Virgin Airlines and she turned up wearing black and refused

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to change she would be sent home. I disagree. You have not worn high

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heels, you have no idea what you are talking about! I would hate to put

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you on the spot here! I was going to open the door into corners of my

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private life! Maybe we will leave it there. Craig, from the Sun

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newspaper, and Helen, from the Economist, many thanks. That is it

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from us tonight but before we go this is a reminder of the front

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pages. The Telegraph having claims that David Cameron refuses to take

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part in live debates ahead of the referendum. The Financial Times

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reports to ring-fence the British Steel pension fund to make Tata

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Steel more attractive to buyers. And a preview of the government White

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Paper on the future of the BBC, saying higher paid stars will have

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salaries made public. All the front pages online on the BBC News

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website, where you can read ADT -- a detailed review of the papers. And

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you can see us there, also. Banks again. Coming up next, the weather.

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It has been another day of contrasts across the UK. Fine and sunny

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