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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be


With me are the international editor of the Economist, Helen Joyce.


And the chief political correspondent of the Sun,


Welcome. We can run through the front pages.


Stories relating to the EU referendum dominate


many of the front pages, including the Metro,


which quotes Boris Johnson calling the Prime Minister "demented"


for suggesting that Brexit could raise the risk


The Telegraph has claims that David Cameron is refusing to take


part in live TV debates ahead of the referendum.


The claim in the Express is that Brussels plans to replace


household appliances for energy efficient alternatives.


Elsewhere, the Financial Times reports on government plans


to ring-fence the British Steel pension fund, in order


to make Tata Steel more attractive to buyers.


The I previews the government's white paper on the future


of the BBC, saying that higher paid stars will have their salaries made


A pledge from David Cameron to clamp down on financial corruption


And the Times leads on the same story and also has images


of the Duchess of Cornwall cheering on one of her horses


We can kick off and we will look at the Telegraph newspaper saying David


Cameron rejected TV debates on Europe. Were they ever on the cards?


I would say for camera not. It was a situation where you can guess what


people think there is in it for them and for camera there is nothing.


Partly because it makes him go head-to-head with someone in his


party which makes the Tories look disunited which they are. Also the


person you would... Who would most want to talk to him is Boris Johnson


and he is good at this sort of thing. There is a quote from Boris


Johnson saying, put it this way, saying he would be up for a debate,


saying I would looked like a wimp if I said no. Would you think Boris


would have more to gain the Cameron? Only the Leave campaigners could


benefit. Wembley Arena was booked for the head-to-head. They want


three on each side, very close to referendum day and David Cameron is


worried if the Tories go head-to-head on that it will be bad.


We learn that he is not ducking the issue. He will do 30 minutes of


questions either before, followed by 30 minutes of questions to Nigel


Farage, which pleases him, who was kicking off he was not invited to


the debate and there will be an examination of David Cameron on Sky


News and the big losers seem to be the BBC. His advisers would say the


strategy worked in terms of the general election, so they know what


they are doing. It can be controlled. The 30 minutes. You do


not have the same potential for a massive mess. He is good at it. He


does town hall meetings and he is good on his feet when he is taking


questions. He is the Prime Minister and looks prime ministerial when he


does them and it allows him to control the room. Most people are


pleased to ask a question of the Prime Minister. They would not


follow it up the same way Boris might. Exactly. A smart move. The


rhetoric between them is to be heating up. In the Metro they have


Boris Johnson calling David Cameron demented, quote, I think this talk


of World War III and bubonic plague is totally demented, frankly, says


Boris Johnson. I suspect the bubonic plague came from his fertile


imagination. I think he suggests it is exaggerated. What is


entertaining, Boris is complaining Cameron has been saying one thing


one time and another thing another, but the pot calling the kettle


black. He has cheek. There is an issue with Boris's ambitions.


Everyone takes the view he has gone on the Brexit side to help his


leadership ambitions. That only works if written votes for Brexit


and if we don't and he wants a Cabinet job, the more he says the


Prime Minister is demented, the less his chance of getting a decent job


when Karen puts the party back together. Relations between them,


are they getting worse because of the debate, or is it friendly


rivalry? I think there is an element of showmanship. The longer it goes


on, the Prime Minister is feeling this personally and he takes issue


with loyalty and people he sees as disloyal. He has given Cabinet


ministers leeway but I think he thinks that some are starting to


abuse that. We have the I looking at the White Paper on the BBC saying


mega pay deals at the BBC will be revealed and stars paid over


?450,000 will be named. Not sure why 450 in particular. I have no idea!


What you think about? I think it is irrelevant. Things need to happen


but is that one of them, will it make a difference? I don't know


what, the independence of the BBC. It is making sure we know how the


licence fee is being spent and it will be dressed up as a great


victory. It is a climb down because the government wanted to make people


earning over 455 -- ?150,000 the same as the Prime Minister, but I


think 450,000 is the salary of the DG and that is why it has been


picked. We might get to know the pay of the people. I am not sure you


will be dragged into the pay deals. Unfortunately not! What about the


White Paper? I am interested in the notion we could use I play abroad as


licence payers. I am on that level, the consumer side. On your holiday!


That is the level which you are getting comment from me. I think


what we will get is something that looks more pro-BBC than some of the


rhetoric we have had. Is that a result of a battle behind? There has


been battling behind-the-scenes. Some of the things in the paper may


be about Strictly not being on at the same time as the X Factor is


scaremongering. What there will be also it is important things for the


future of journalism. That the BBC might have too paid for rivals'


local journalists. The website puts local news and it is killing off


local papers, so siphoning off Arnie to local papers to keep journalism,


the more devolution we have, the more local mayors there are, that's


there are proper local papers analysing what is going on. If you


are running a local paper, do you want a BBC journalist doing some of


your reporting, say court reporting? What I think you don't want is to be


squeezed out. Everybody who has worked on local papers knows you can


turn up at a press conference with four outlets from the BBC. It is


David versus Goliath sometimes. It is vital people use their local


papers and do not think they can get it on the BBC. It is the future of


journalism because that is the traditional route. The Guardian. We


had comments caught on the microphone of the Prime Minister


about corruption ahead of the summit, where he said Afghanistan


and Nigeria were fantastically corrupt. Now the Guardian is


reporting a crackdown on dirty money. The measures if they happen,


that is great. They say they want beneficial ownership, the real


owners behind Shell companies and trusts, which can be hidden, they


want real owners to be named on a public register, which would be


great. They have said several times they are going to do this, so if


they do it now that is fabulous and I hope other countries follow them


will stop the scene. Craig you have a theory on whether the Prime


Minister, was it a mistake when he said they were fantastically


corrupt. There was a cheeky look at the camera when he said the words


fantastically corrupt and nobody was talking about the summit until he


was caught saying what it then turns out the Nigerian and Afghan


president are prepared to say, their countries are corrupt and they are


trying to fix it. Maybe I am giving his spin operation... That is quite


a conspiracy theory. You think they sit in Downing Street coming up with


plans like that? I don't put anything past them. I suppose it


worked in the sense we are talking about it. If that were true. We are


talking about an anti-corruption Summit that would not be at the top


of the agenda. And on the same day as the BBC White Paper. Is it an


important issue? Absolutely. Tremendously so. Not least because


it is linked with tax evasion and avoidance and one thing we have seen


from the government since 2010 is every budget they announce a measure


that they will get money from tax evasion and avoidance. They have to


find a way of getting this cash from people and this would help. One


thing they plan to do is ensure we know which foreign companies own all


property in the UK. If that stops foreign money buying property that


is a lot of money not going to be exchanged via the land Registry and


so on. It may be -- going to the Exchequer. They need money to come


in but there is also the perception because they are seen as the friends


of the rich, the Tories, and they need to look like they are stopping


rich friends from hiding cash. We will end with the story about it a


thought, sent home from work according to the Daily Express, for


refusing to wear high heels. She is a receptionist. Apparently it is OK


for companies to have dress codes and it is OK for them to insist


women wear make up and high heels as part of a dress code. I am at a desk


all day and I wear trainers. You are not forced to wear high heels?


Nobody except a man could think these are things you should wear all


day if that is what you do not want to do. If she signed up for a job


where the dress code is high heels and she turned up without high heels


and was told she needed to wear them and she was sent home when she


didn't. Do you not think there is something wrong with the dress code?


It is perfectly legal. If they said you have to wear a red skirt and


jacket like Virgin Airlines and she turned up wearing black and refused


to change she would be sent home. I disagree. You have not worn high


heels, you have no idea what you are talking about! I would hate to put


you on the spot here! I was going to open the door into corners of my


private life! Maybe we will leave it there. Craig, from the Sun


newspaper, and Helen, from the Economist, many thanks. That is it


from us tonight but before we go this is a reminder of the front


pages. The Telegraph having claims that David Cameron refuses to take


part in live debates ahead of the referendum. The Financial Times


reports to ring-fence the British Steel pension fund to make Tata


Steel more attractive to buyers. And a preview of the government White


Paper on the future of the BBC, saying higher paid stars will have


salaries made public. All the front pages online on the BBC News


website, where you can read ADT -- a detailed review of the papers. And


you can see us there, also. Banks again. Coming up next, the weather.


It has been another day of contrasts across the UK. Fine and sunny


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