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to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow.


With me are the Political Editor of the Daily Mirror, Jason Beattie,


and the Chief Political Correspondent of Buzzfeed,


Welcome to you both. Tomorrow's front pages...


The FT leads on our main story tonight, the warning from the Bank


of England governor over the impact of a vote to leave


The same story dominates the front page of City AM, which pictures


Mark Carney and the leading leave campaigner and former


According to the Guardian, the former Prime Minister Sir John


Major will enter the European referendum debate tomorrow,


warning some Tories about their focus on immigration.


The Mail asked the Prime Minister, what are you scared of? After plans


for TV debates during the referendum are confirmed. Sentence


The Express pictures the Queen, who received a supermarket voucher


"Secret China plans to take over nuclear power station"


is the headline for the Times, with claims that Beijing


is preparing to rescue the Hinkley Point project


if the current deal with the French collapses.


and the Mirror says a couple conned out of the surrogate mother had


expecting a baby, things to good Samaritan.


In the Guardian, Brexit Tories warned of immigration. A warning


from the former Prime Minister, John Major, passionately pro-European.


Yes, and what is interesting is, he says in his speech that immigration


is seen as those who want to leave the European Union as their trump


card. So this is an attempt to actually counter the one point they


think they can win on. The Remain campaign have a very strong argument


on the economy. They have what they call Project Fear, where they are


beginning to make progress on this, as we will come onto later with the


Mark Carney intervention. One thing I find difficult, and a lot of


Labour MPs say this to me, the concern in their constituencies is


immigration, so John Major is trying to turn this on its head and say,


look, actually, you shouldn't play on these fears of immigration,


because it could be socially divisive, and you need to be careful


of your rhetoric. This is a message to Boris Johnson and Michael Gove,


and others in the Leave Campaign. So will it work? I don't know. Some


people might say, don't lecture me, but an interesting tactic.


An interesting point, isn't it, Amelie? He is saying he will make


these comments at Oxford University, but could he puts people off when


political bigwigs way into the debate? -- Emily. I think so. We


have so many of these headlines with former Prime Minister 's. We have


Barack Obama as well, telling people what to do, what to think, and in


the end, it might come down to some people going, do you know what, I


have some genuine concerns about immigration and I don't really need


to tidy my concerns and genuine, thank you very much. They might be


affecting school places for my kids, they might be affecting the fact


that I can get a GP appointment, and these are genuine concerns. But John


Major's argument about it is an interesting one. Obviously, this


comes out after these migration statistics, which came out today,


which we will talk about in a minute. Yes, yes. So, on the back of


all that, ramping up these fears of more immigrants from Europe.


And on the back of the Bank of England Mark Carney's comments, of


course, which that's not surprisingly make the front page of


The Financial Times. Carney warns of recession danger from boat to quit


EU. Outspoken comments, Jason. As he stepped out of line, do you think


you matter well, no, on the grounds that he is the governor of the Bank


of England, and responsible for economic forecasting.


Therefore, he has a right to say if he thinks the pound could tumble,


that unemployment could rise, that prices could go up and that growth


could slump. He has a right to make that point. This has caused absolute


fury amongst the Leave campaigners, and they are upset about it, and you


can see why. This is damaging, because coming back to Emily's


point, who do we take our advice from? Polling shows that we listen


to Mark Carney, because he is seen as independent, and he is seen as a


serious figure, more than we listen to politicians in this debate. So


his intervention is very significant, because it is... The


rage is the rage of impotence, because they have nothing to counter


it with. Tory MPs are saying he should resign. Why should he resign


for doing his job? They are saying he is stepping out


of the economic role and into a political one. At Emily, what do you


think? Governor of the Bank of England, the monetary policy


committee, they have got it wrong in the past.


Yes, and that has been pointed out by indent in Smith. He says all


forecasts are wrong. The fact is, the Remain campaign has some big


voices on its side. The Bank of England governor will have some


weight for people, warning of a recession. I was at the


anti-corruption Summit today, where David Cameron was asked about this,


and he was absolutely loving it, seize on it immediately. We should


trust this man, we should trust the monetary committee, they know what


they are talking about. And these other -- these are the headlines the


government 14, with six more weeks. The FT has a short story about the


BBC holding out against direct appointments, the White Paper, of


course, published today by the Culture Secretary John Whittingdale.


Jason, it struck me as not being quite the fundamental assault on the


BBC we have been led to believe? Yes, I think we can all breathe a


sigh of relief. I was slightly worried when I was invited onto this


programme, but it has not come to pass. The Culture Secretary actually


encouraged a whole series of stories, or if not encourage them,


he did nothing to stop them, which threatened the worst for the BBC,


with fears about its independence, fears they would shackle is


scheduling ability, that they would not be able to show Strictly at


prime time, and none of it came to pass. I think most people will be


mightily relieved. There are some bits of the White Paper which still


worry me. The fact that the National Audit Office is now going to be


looking at the BBC's accounts, which makes it sound like an extension of


government, the fact that there are still fears about what is


distinctive broadcasting, that is to be discussed, and they worry about


the new BBC board, which will have political appointments on it, which


will lead to fears of interference, although the BBC will have majority


board members. So it is not a clear victory for those of us who want a


strong public sector broadcaster, but, sorry, a strong Public Service


Broadcasting, but it is not as bad as it could have been.


Amelie, Jason was to study by the BBC holding out against director


appointment. This is the unitary board weathered government will be


able to appoint people to put on it. There will be some who will say, the


government should have been more radical.


There were so many headlines about what this white paper would contain,


but it has massively been watered down. We saw those Sunday reports


about Strictly having to move as it might have clashed with and ITV


show. These things were briefed from somewhere, and actually, John


Whittingdale has been pretty anti-BBC for quite a long time, so I


think what the woman did not want was a row just before the


referendum, when they are already struggling with teachers and


doctors. -- what the government did not want. The iMac yes, this has


been more white flag and white paper!


Jason, The Times, plan to take over nuclear station. If these are


secret? Had we know about them? We know this because someone stood up


in the House of Lords and said it! A former Conservative energy


Secretary? A minister. What is interesting is, he is saying there


is also to problems at Hinkley Point. It is already running of the


budget, as nuclear power stations tend to do. There is concern about


the ability to build. The French firm behind it has had problems with


the steel and reactor in similar models in northern France, and now,


he is revealing that if the French can't do it, the Chinese are willing


to step in. Why does this sound alarm bells? Because firstly, the


security chiefs and military are worried about security, because an


awful lot of technology goes into these things. Then, they are worried


about this being used either Chinese, as it says on the story, as


a back door way of accessing information and state secrets, or


whatever. So this is why it has caused alarm. I would caution a


little bit. We do a lot of trade with China already, but our concerns


about spying and putting technology to certain uses, but this is also


slightly xenophobic, which does also worry me.


Let's move on to The International New York Times, Emily, and perhaps


unsurprisingly, they have a story about Donald Trump and the House


Speaker Paul Ryan, the most powerful Republican in America at the moment,


meeting. They have been at loggerheads. They meet in an attempt


to forge party unity, but the big question is, is he going to endorse


him? Yes, because I think Paul Ryan last


week had indicated he was not ready to endorse Donald Trump, who


desperately needs a fewer Republicans on his side, seeing as


he probably will become the candidate. So they have met today at


the Republican national committee. And actually, in a news conference


afterwards, Paul Ryan was quite welcoming. Encouraging, wasn't he?


He said he found Mr Trump a warm and genuine person. That does not sound


that a public endorsement, but it pays the way to making sure the


Republican party does not split up. Any thoughts on Donald Trump?


What is fascinating about him is, Paul Ryan is seen as a right winger,


but because Trump has taken the party so far to the right, he is now


seen as this moderate broker, and that shows how much trouble


Republicans are in. This party was in danger of fracturing, and because


of the poison which Trump has put into it, and here, he is trying to


take out a bit about poison. Whether it is enough to save the party


against Hillary Clinton, I doubt it. The front page of the Daily Express,


Britain's 1.5 hidden migrants -- 1.5 million. Why is this damaging to the


government, and how these figures coming out now?


This is a headline they just did not want. The reason it has come out now


is because the Office for National Statistics has published statistics


today. They were supposed to be published close to the referendum,


but surprise, surprise, they were published today on a day that the


BBC White Paper was also announced, on the day the anti-corruption


Summit was happening, but I am sure that was all a coincidence! The top


line is that around 1.5 million more EU migrants come to Britain over the


past five years than official figures have suggested in the past.


That doesn't really give you the full picture, because these are


short-term migrants, people who have come here and stayed a few weeks or


months and then gone back home. But people are saying, actually, these


people have an impact on jobs, and they might not have added to the


population as a whole, but those figures have been kind of kept under


wraps, so the Leave camp is flagging these stats with joy.


Jason, do you think voters have been kept in the dark?


It depends whether you think they have been blinded by statistics or


not. There are so many ways of counting these things. As Amelie


said, this is about discrepancy between the way the Office for


National Statistics had been counting migration, and the number


of National Insurance numbers given out to people who have come here to


work, and this is what it was trying to clear up, so yes, we told the


full story today, and we find that actually, this is years, and


secondly, they are short-term migrants, people coming to work for


in some cases a couple of weeks. I would take John Major's line on


this. Me just -- maybe some of the scaremongering needs to be turned


down a bit. And in the Daily Express, pictures


of the Queen. Hooray, one has won a ?50 Tesco gift voucher. This was in


a horse race. What is she going to buy with ?50?


Is she actually going to use it? I hope she uses it. They could have


given it to someone who uses Tesco. Do they sell hay in Tesco?


She seems delighted, doesn't she? She seems to have got over the upset


with the Chinese from earlier in the week.


And he very much. That is it from us tonight. All the front pages are


online on the BBC News website, where you can read a detailed review


of the papers. That is all there for you seven days a week UK.


And you can see us there as well, with each night's edition of the


programme being posted on the page shortly after we finish.


And you, Jason and Emily. From all of us, goodbye. -- thank you.


Good evening. Many parts of the country once again enjoying a lot of


warmth and that strong May sunshine, but there were exceptions in the


south-west and Channel Islands. Temperatures leapt into


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