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to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow.

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With me are the Political Editor of the Daily Mirror, Jason Beattie,

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and the Chief Political Correspondent of Buzzfeed,

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Welcome to you both. Tomorrow's front pages...

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The FT leads on our main story tonight, the warning from the Bank

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of England governor over the impact of a vote to leave

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The same story dominates the front page of City AM, which pictures

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Mark Carney and the leading leave campaigner and former

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According to the Guardian, the former Prime Minister Sir John

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Major will enter the European referendum debate tomorrow,

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warning some Tories about their focus on immigration.

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The Mail asked the Prime Minister, what are you scared of? After plans

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for TV debates during the referendum are confirmed. Sentence

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The Express pictures the Queen, who received a supermarket voucher

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"Secret China plans to take over nuclear power station"

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is the headline for the Times, with claims that Beijing

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is preparing to rescue the Hinkley Point project

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if the current deal with the French collapses.

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and the Mirror says a couple conned out of the surrogate mother had

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expecting a baby, things to good Samaritan.

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In the Guardian, Brexit Tories warned of immigration. A warning

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from the former Prime Minister, John Major, passionately pro-European.

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Yes, and what is interesting is, he says in his speech that immigration

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is seen as those who want to leave the European Union as their trump

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card. So this is an attempt to actually counter the one point they

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think they can win on. The Remain campaign have a very strong argument

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on the economy. They have what they call Project Fear, where they are

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beginning to make progress on this, as we will come onto later with the

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Mark Carney intervention. One thing I find difficult, and a lot of

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Labour MPs say this to me, the concern in their constituencies is

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immigration, so John Major is trying to turn this on its head and say,

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look, actually, you shouldn't play on these fears of immigration,

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because it could be socially divisive, and you need to be careful

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of your rhetoric. This is a message to Boris Johnson and Michael Gove,

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and others in the Leave Campaign. So will it work? I don't know. Some

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people might say, don't lecture me, but an interesting tactic.

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An interesting point, isn't it, Amelie? He is saying he will make

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these comments at Oxford University, but could he puts people off when

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political bigwigs way into the debate? -- Emily. I think so. We

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have so many of these headlines with former Prime Minister 's. We have

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Barack Obama as well, telling people what to do, what to think, and in

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the end, it might come down to some people going, do you know what, I

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have some genuine concerns about immigration and I don't really need

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to tidy my concerns and genuine, thank you very much. They might be

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affecting school places for my kids, they might be affecting the fact

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that I can get a GP appointment, and these are genuine concerns. But John

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Major's argument about it is an interesting one. Obviously, this

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comes out after these migration statistics, which came out today,

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which we will talk about in a minute. Yes, yes. So, on the back of

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all that, ramping up these fears of more immigrants from Europe.

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And on the back of the Bank of England Mark Carney's comments, of

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course, which that's not surprisingly make the front page of

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The Financial Times. Carney warns of recession danger from boat to quit

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EU. Outspoken comments, Jason. As he stepped out of line, do you think

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you matter well, no, on the grounds that he is the governor of the Bank

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of England, and responsible for economic forecasting.

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Therefore, he has a right to say if he thinks the pound could tumble,

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that unemployment could rise, that prices could go up and that growth

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could slump. He has a right to make that point. This has caused absolute

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fury amongst the Leave campaigners, and they are upset about it, and you

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can see why. This is damaging, because coming back to Emily's

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point, who do we take our advice from? Polling shows that we listen

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to Mark Carney, because he is seen as independent, and he is seen as a

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serious figure, more than we listen to politicians in this debate. So

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his intervention is very significant, because it is... The

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rage is the rage of impotence, because they have nothing to counter

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it with. Tory MPs are saying he should resign. Why should he resign

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for doing his job? They are saying he is stepping out

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of the economic role and into a political one. At Emily, what do you

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think? Governor of the Bank of England, the monetary policy

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committee, they have got it wrong in the past.

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Yes, and that has been pointed out by indent in Smith. He says all

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forecasts are wrong. The fact is, the Remain campaign has some big

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voices on its side. The Bank of England governor will have some

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weight for people, warning of a recession. I was at the

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anti-corruption Summit today, where David Cameron was asked about this,

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and he was absolutely loving it, seize on it immediately. We should

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trust this man, we should trust the monetary committee, they know what

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they are talking about. And these other -- these are the headlines the

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government 14, with six more weeks. The FT has a short story about the

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BBC holding out against direct appointments, the White Paper, of

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course, published today by the Culture Secretary John Whittingdale.

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Jason, it struck me as not being quite the fundamental assault on the

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BBC we have been led to believe? Yes, I think we can all breathe a

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sigh of relief. I was slightly worried when I was invited onto this

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programme, but it has not come to pass. The Culture Secretary actually

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encouraged a whole series of stories, or if not encourage them,

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he did nothing to stop them, which threatened the worst for the BBC,

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with fears about its independence, fears they would shackle is

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scheduling ability, that they would not be able to show Strictly at

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prime time, and none of it came to pass. I think most people will be

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mightily relieved. There are some bits of the White Paper which still

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worry me. The fact that the National Audit Office is now going to be

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looking at the BBC's accounts, which makes it sound like an extension of

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government, the fact that there are still fears about what is

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distinctive broadcasting, that is to be discussed, and they worry about

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the new BBC board, which will have political appointments on it, which

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will lead to fears of interference, although the BBC will have majority

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board members. So it is not a clear victory for those of us who want a

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strong public sector broadcaster, but, sorry, a strong Public Service

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Broadcasting, but it is not as bad as it could have been.

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Amelie, Jason was to study by the BBC holding out against director

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appointment. This is the unitary board weathered government will be

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able to appoint people to put on it. There will be some who will say, the

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government should have been more radical.

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There were so many headlines about what this white paper would contain,

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but it has massively been watered down. We saw those Sunday reports

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about Strictly having to move as it might have clashed with and ITV

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show. These things were briefed from somewhere, and actually, John

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Whittingdale has been pretty anti-BBC for quite a long time, so I

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think what the woman did not want was a row just before the

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referendum, when they are already struggling with teachers and

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doctors. -- what the government did not want. The iMac yes, this has

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been more white flag and white paper!

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Jason, The Times, plan to take over nuclear station. If these are

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secret? Had we know about them? We know this because someone stood up

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in the House of Lords and said it! A former Conservative energy

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Secretary? A minister. What is interesting is, he is saying there

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is also to problems at Hinkley Point. It is already running of the

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budget, as nuclear power stations tend to do. There is concern about

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the ability to build. The French firm behind it has had problems with

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the steel and reactor in similar models in northern France, and now,

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he is revealing that if the French can't do it, the Chinese are willing

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to step in. Why does this sound alarm bells? Because firstly, the

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security chiefs and military are worried about security, because an

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awful lot of technology goes into these things. Then, they are worried

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about this being used either Chinese, as it says on the story, as

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a back door way of accessing information and state secrets, or

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whatever. So this is why it has caused alarm. I would caution a

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little bit. We do a lot of trade with China already, but our concerns

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about spying and putting technology to certain uses, but this is also

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slightly xenophobic, which does also worry me.

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Let's move on to The International New York Times, Emily, and perhaps

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unsurprisingly, they have a story about Donald Trump and the House

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Speaker Paul Ryan, the most powerful Republican in America at the moment,

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meeting. They have been at loggerheads. They meet in an attempt

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to forge party unity, but the big question is, is he going to endorse

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him? Yes, because I think Paul Ryan last

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week had indicated he was not ready to endorse Donald Trump, who

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desperately needs a fewer Republicans on his side, seeing as

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he probably will become the candidate. So they have met today at

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the Republican national committee. And actually, in a news conference

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afterwards, Paul Ryan was quite welcoming. Encouraging, wasn't he?

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He said he found Mr Trump a warm and genuine person. That does not sound

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that a public endorsement, but it pays the way to making sure the

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Republican party does not split up. Any thoughts on Donald Trump?

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What is fascinating about him is, Paul Ryan is seen as a right winger,

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but because Trump has taken the party so far to the right, he is now

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seen as this moderate broker, and that shows how much trouble

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Republicans are in. This party was in danger of fracturing, and because

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of the poison which Trump has put into it, and here, he is trying to

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take out a bit about poison. Whether it is enough to save the party

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against Hillary Clinton, I doubt it. The front page of the Daily Express,

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Britain's 1.5 hidden migrants -- 1.5 million. Why is this damaging to the

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government, and how these figures coming out now?

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This is a headline they just did not want. The reason it has come out now

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is because the Office for National Statistics has published statistics

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today. They were supposed to be published close to the referendum,

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but surprise, surprise, they were published today on a day that the

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BBC White Paper was also announced, on the day the anti-corruption

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Summit was happening, but I am sure that was all a coincidence! The top

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line is that around 1.5 million more EU migrants come to Britain over the

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past five years than official figures have suggested in the past.

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That doesn't really give you the full picture, because these are

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short-term migrants, people who have come here and stayed a few weeks or

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months and then gone back home. But people are saying, actually, these

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people have an impact on jobs, and they might not have added to the

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population as a whole, but those figures have been kind of kept under

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wraps, so the Leave camp is flagging these stats with joy.

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Jason, do you think voters have been kept in the dark?

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It depends whether you think they have been blinded by statistics or

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not. There are so many ways of counting these things. As Amelie

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said, this is about discrepancy between the way the Office for

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National Statistics had been counting migration, and the number

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of National Insurance numbers given out to people who have come here to

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work, and this is what it was trying to clear up, so yes, we told the

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full story today, and we find that actually, this is years, and

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secondly, they are short-term migrants, people coming to work for

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in some cases a couple of weeks. I would take John Major's line on

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this. Me just -- maybe some of the scaremongering needs to be turned

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down a bit. And in the Daily Express, pictures

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of the Queen. Hooray, one has won a ?50 Tesco gift voucher. This was in

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a horse race. What is she going to buy with ?50?

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Is she actually going to use it? I hope she uses it. They could have

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given it to someone who uses Tesco. Do they sell hay in Tesco?

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She seems delighted, doesn't she? She seems to have got over the upset

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with the Chinese from earlier in the week.

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And he very much. That is it from us tonight. All the front pages are

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online on the BBC News website, where you can read a detailed review

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of the papers. That is all there for you seven days a week UK.

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And you can see us there as well, with each night's edition of the

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programme being posted on the page shortly after we finish.

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And you, Jason and Emily. From all of us, goodbye. -- thank you.

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Good evening. Many parts of the country once again enjoying a lot of

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warmth and that strong May sunshine, but there were exceptions in the

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south-west and Channel Islands. Temperatures leapt into

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