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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are James Millar, Westminster Correspondent at

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the Sunday Post and Louise Scodie, Journalist and Broadcaster .

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The Times leads with Jon Platt, who's won a High Court ruling

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after taking his daughter on holiday during term time.

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The Mail runs with the same story,

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and says the ruling could lead to a rush of families taking cheaper

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The Mirror says the government is now vowing

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to tighten laws to make it

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more difficult for families who plan trips outside of school

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There's a theme emerging - the Independent says the ruling

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by the High Court could lead to 3 pupils in every class of 30

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The Telegraph leads with an apology from the new head

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of the RSPCA who says the organisation has become too

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from the French energy minister about the 'colossal' cost

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of the Hinkley Point nuclear project to the energy company EDF.

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The Guardian has an interview with the new Mayor

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of London Sadiq Khan, who says Labour should follow

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the same strategy as Tony Blair in order to win the next general

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And the Express says a nap during the day could raise your risk

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We did not really want to read that. Let's begin, we made the point that

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so many of the papers are leading on a punter friendly story. We are all

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interested on this issue whether you can or can't take your children out

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of school during the holiday. I'm not surprised, it is right that this

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front page has had so much coverage, it affects thousands of people

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across the country, families are penalised by travel companies for

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taking their kids on holiday during holiday season because the fares go

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up massively. You can understand why this particular parent went to

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court, to defend his decision to take his daughter wagering term

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time. Understandably, all of the newspapers are describing it as a

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landmark case, it will be fascinating to see what happens as a

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result. I have to say that I find the coverage overwhelmingly in

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favour of families and parents on this. There is a big theme, parent

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power and bringing power back? It is a victory in the mirror, a win in

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The i newspaper, the Daily Mail says it is chaos. We don't know what the

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government will do, the government is not happy about this. Michael

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Gove does not want people, when he brought in the roles can he did not

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want people to take their kids out of school in term time so they have

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said they will legislate to stop it happening. When and how, we will

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have to wait and see, clearly there were rules in place and the court

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has basically suggested they are rubbish and don't stand the test.

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It's interesting to balance, on one hand there may be some staff and

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teachers who say that they cannot have children going off willy-nilly,

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they are busy trying to let them catch up and get on to what they

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have missed. And parents saying, they cannot take time off in the

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natural holidays? Yes, the Daily Mail would say it is chaos without

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AQ at the bus stop. I don't believe as a result that all parents would

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decide to take their kids away in term time, they have respect for the

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education of their kids and they want their kids in school learning.

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I'm not sure we will see a huge rush... James is shaking his head.

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But it does... Importantly, it opens up the space for this conversation

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and I think there is a wider issue at hand. I know parents with kids at

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two different schools in the same borough, and holiday dates aren't

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the same. RES! It inconveniences parents even further and when we are

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talking about families who are single parents, it is not fit for

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the purpose of modern family life, this all has to be looked at. I

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agree with that. But I'm not sure, when you say that parents have

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respect, a lot of parents do, middle-class parents do, but there

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are a lot who don't. Michael Gove put this in so that Yvonne has the

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same opportunities, kids with books at home and parents who believe in

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education, they aren't the problem, it is the other ones. The rules now

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our consistent and fair to everyone, they may not be brilliant all the

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best rules, but the previous system where a headteacher had some

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discretion. They could give ten days at discretion? They will always say

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to the middle-class child who Baena was getting help at home, they will

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say yes, but that child who needs help and is being kept out of school

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may be for not the right reasons, it is a different matter. It is very

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difficult. I'm not sure the current rules are right but I don't know

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deal turn a tip. That is the problem. You are a parent, will you

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take your kids on holiday next week or the week after? No. I think

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education is important. You also have to teach a certain amount of

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respect for authority. These rules in force that, but I'm not a problem

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if you like, my kids... It's good to know! My kids have books at home,

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they will hopefully be OK. When you try and get to grips with why

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parents are doing it, there is a tension in the moral high ground

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some parents take some parents say they feel it is educational to take

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their children to Sri Lanka for two weeks. Other parents say they should

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be able to do what they like, in brackets, because I do not want to

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pay the whole fair... You have Jon Platt saying it is his right to take

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his child away to show her a different experience and a bit of

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the world. He spent ?13,000 fighting this ruling. We cannot say it is

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just about finances, you was prepared to spend a vast amount of

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money, far more than the cost of the holiday, on fighting for his right

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to make sure as I think he would say, that his child has a well

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rounded experience and if that means taking days out of school... Deal

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with the consequence. I went to Disneyland last month, it was not

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very educational! Did you not make a special project? We don't know what

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else they did while they were there. They may have learned about the

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culture of the country... What I love about this is in the Daily

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Mail, tucked away, it said "Holiday companies were expected to respond

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by hiking prices in term time". The idea we might finally thwart the

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hideous holiday costs seems to have gone out the window. But never mind,

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there's always a cloud to every silver lining! Let's look at the

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Daily Mail, if we go inside, they have got the story about the IMF. We

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were talking today about Christine Lagarde talking about the perils of

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coming out of the EU. And there's more, James? The most telling bit of

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the story is the top where it says 40 days to go before the Brexit

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vote, get used to it, there will be a lot more Space-X apparently

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Christine Lagarde was Osborne's IMF charmed -- a lot more of this! They

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have all decided Brexit is bad for the economy, this is some sort of

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conspiracy, according to the Daily Mail, it has asked four people from

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the League side to comment, and one from the remains eyed, and the IMF

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are conspiring, apparently. -- the Remain side. The Daily Mail

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says it is a conspiracy but the IMF 's sake, to be fair, there's no

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point releasing this after the vote, that seems entirely reasonable. I

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love the fact this is a classic Daily Mail reporting of the story.

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The fact they've gone the French bosses accused of interfering, she

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is not interfering, she works for an organisation where she has a vested

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interest in whether we go in or out, it will affect countries worldwide,

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of course the IMF has something to say about it, thanks, Daily Mail!

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They've used the word "Controversial" prize within ten

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seconds, talking about David Cameron. -- twice. I enjoy her

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quote, that "Squirting the EU would be pretty bad to very, very bad". --

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us quitting. The thing is, the IMF are not all

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-- Osborne's friend. Eight years later, the INS said they were doing

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a good job. They seem to be fairly impartial, it

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is fair to say. It is interesting there is a sense that we do not

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welcome comments from external... The Bank of England, of course Mark

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Connolly came under criticism when he dared to mention his opinion on

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the matter? -- Mark Carney. I'm not sure that they want anyone's opinion

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but their own! They've mentioned former Chancellor Lord Lamont, they

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have not mentioned he was terrible, possibly the worst for a long time.

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Now he is Brexit, he is to be respected. He does not want people

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interfering, he says it has become buried politicised. I think the

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bold, red font, 40 days to go will cause me nightmares overnight!

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Let's move onto The Guardian newspaper, they've been speaking to

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the new Mayor of London, and he's given his thoughts on where Labour

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are going wrong and how they might make things right? Indeed, perhaps

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not so much a thinly veiled criticism on Jeremy Corbyn's

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leadership, saying that Labour should look at past leaders rather

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than looking at what is happening at the moment, backtracking later

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saying that Jeremy is not that bad, maybe he can do better, politics is

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a team sport, bringing it back to that! A reassuring quote, "I've

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achieved seven days -- in seven days rather than six days in the

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opposition". It is not a long time. He is riding high. People are

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looking at him to give thoughts on the Labour strategy? I love this,

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there is so much in it. It does not mention he's a Muslim or the sun of

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a bus driver, it has been repeated ad nauseam! I knew it would be

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hiding inside! There has been stuff about the Labour Party -- the son of

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a bus driver. There is stuff about their campaign, that was quite

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distasteful. He is slapping Corbyn, he cosied up to him to get the

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nomination. And suddenly, he turns around and

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says Tony Blair is the good guy and we should listen to him. The most

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telling thing is the first line is "Labour should unite and focus on

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winning power". The fact he has to say that says you all you -- says

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all you need to know about the current state of the Labour Party.

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And the chance to critique campaigners, and criticisms of the

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Zac Goldsmith campaign and the disquiet in many parties about this?

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Indeed, going further by describing Zac Goldsmith as a bad sport for not

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checking his hand after it was declared at the end. I think that

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Sadiq Khan will continue to stick the boot in as far as Goldsmith and

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the campaign are concerned for a long time. So many people were

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disgusted by what went on, and I think it helped him progress his

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campaign further. I enjoyed the fact that he revealed David Cameron had

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phoned him to ask for help in securing a large turnout in London,

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who phones? Did he not text? We are not impressed by his social media

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skills! In The Times, let's go into the inside pages on this one, they

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were leading like many others on parents taking their kids out of

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school. Two stories we wanted to look at here, the first is to do

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with hundreds more prisoners apparently allowed to be released

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temporarily from jail? Yes, I don't think either of these will go down

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very well with the ordinary voter. This one, yes, Michael Gove is now

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at the Department of Justice, and is going to launch a prison reform bill

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in the Queens speech, that is due on Wednesday. It will allow prisoners

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out on temporary release. To go to work, visit relatives, integrate

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into the community, a lot of people would think that is a good idea,

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other people won't, largely because it is scaled back. After a

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high-profile murder a prisoner out on release. It is a difficult one,

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you should not necessarily change the rules just because one case, but

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if one person is murdered, that's too many. I think it will divide

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people. Yes, I'm not sure that many readers of The Times will be happy

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to read these two stories. Interesting, in the prisoner story,

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Michael Gove, and the fact he wishes to call those inmates "Men" rather

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than prisoners, and accommodation rooms rather than cells, I'm

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surprised to hear such humane language from him, maybe I'm

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painting a bad picture, but it surprised me. It ended with a quote

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on the reform trust supporting these moves. Quite a hopeful piece, I

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would think. Take us underneath here. And to refugees, it's topical

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today, of course, looking at numbers, David Miliband has weighed

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into the debate about how many Syrian refugees we should take? For

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many, the right brother, saying we should listen to him on this. He is

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quoting numbers, and being very specific about what the numbers

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would mean for different areas of the country, and if we were taking

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25,000 Syrians per year into the country, it is 40 per Parliamentary

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constituency. He says it won't overwhelm the system, it may be true

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but I want more detail, I want to know the infrastructure which will

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be put in place to support it, and the emotional and logistical support

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given to help the refugees integrate into society. I think it is lovely

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to have that top level but the ordinary person in this country

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wants to know how this is going to work, if we are going to welcome

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that many people in. I'm not sure he's the right brother, even this,

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anyone who stands up and says we will take 100,000 extra people won't

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get many votes in the current climate. To some extent, it's a good

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idea, but it is how do you do it? And it creates tension, I think a

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lot of people, it is hearts and minds, a lot of people look at the

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plight of people and think, that's great. But where will they go, how

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will they access the NHS? And it is trying to get that balance, I

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suppose? The other thing is, people displaced in the country next to

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Syria should be allowed to get on with settling in in that country and

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working and contributing to that country. It seems entirely sensible.

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It is both daft and unpleasant to have them in camps with fences, and

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all the rest of it, as long as they aren't taking local people's jobs,

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they could contribute and that would be good for everyone. It has painted

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a black and white picture, saying the only hope is that they become

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productive residents of the country they go to, yes, but he also says

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the only or tentative is people are placed in camps, a magnet for

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criminality... -- an alternative. There a grey area that has to be

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explored. And an acknowledgement that not everyone who is integrated

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in society will have a successful life. And, as we said, the one to

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better support people. There was an interview on the BBC, on This

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World... You will get the story in more detail this way! We will delve

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into The Financial Times. Hinkley Point, take us to Somerset, what is

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going on? There is supposed to be a gigantic power station at the cost

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of 18 billion, but whether there will ever be won is anyone's guess.

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It is another infrastructure project that is a shambles. The French are

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supposed to be building it, now they are not entirely sure it is worth

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the money, the energy minister, and brilliantly the former partner of

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the president Francois Hollande is the mother of his children. Who

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knows what will happen? It is supposed to produce 7% of the

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nations black trustee, not all of the lights will go off but some will

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if it is not built -- electricity. And apart from the fact we are

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talking about a massive amount of money for not much output, it is

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only expected to provide 7% of electricity over a decade, that does

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not seem like a lot for ?18 billion. We have this quote from the French

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energy minister saying if we pull out, it sends a bad signal to

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competitors, the French don't keep their word, they are worried about

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their reputation which seems an unnecessarily added complication

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when they should look at the fact as to whether it will work and the

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cost-effective -- be cost-effective. This has been running for a while,

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looking ahead to tomorrow, changing up, this is a new programme on the

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BBC, and I know that you will both be sitting down watching the

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Eurovision Song Contest? Have you got your party planned?

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Yes, snacks representing all of the nations! But it is fewer nations,

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this particular angle in The Guardian newspaper is the Ukrainian

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and Russian tensions, political stuff that always comes out? This is

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politics, never mind Sadiq Khan, it is completely... It is a weird

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event, this is the Ukrainian entrant, who has said, vote for me

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because Russia invaded my country. Not whether she has a good song or

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not! The Russian attitude to Eurovision is bizarre because they

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really want to win... They are favourites? Yes, but they have a

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terrible record on gay rights, and there is nothing Day! They are

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favourites and they will get feed, I'm sure. I hope every flag waved

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during their performance is a rainbow flag. To show solidarity

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with the LGBT community. I hope there is not going to be any

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political voting going on tomorrow because of increased public

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voting... Yeah, right! It's a masterclass in political voting,

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that's why the UK don't do very well even though we've had great people.

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We have good contestants tomorrow! Had you heard the entry tomorrow?

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They are pretty good, they can sing! The bad news is Ireland have not got

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through, we have heard West 's former singer is not going to be

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there. There is a small number of contestants -- Westlife. Our

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coverage is always quite tongue in cheek, the late, great Terry Wogan,

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and Graham Norton, do they do that in other countries? Apparently the

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Russians do, but they get beat, and rainbow flags waved at them, they

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don't get it. I don't understand why Putin is so keen on it, he does like

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topless photo shoots, and the rest of it... He likes topless photos

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shoots and Eurovision... Strange! I don't know how they cover it in

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Europe, they take it more seriously? Having said that, some of the

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entries cannot be taken seriously! We will leave it to you all to

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judge! When you are watching this tomorrow with your special country

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seemed snacks, Louise has some tips! All of the front pages are online on

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the BBC News website. There is a detailed review of the newspapers,

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seven days a week. You can see our spare as well with

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each night 's edition of the papers being posted on the page shortly

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after we have finished. All that remains to be said is back

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to my guests -- is thanks to my guests, good night.

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