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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are the political commentator Jo Phillips

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and Nigel Nelson of the Sunday People.

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You are also editor of the Sunday Mirror, two titles.

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Tomorrow's front pages starting with...

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A ringing endorsement from Nigel Farage for Boris Johnson

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to be Prime Minister is the Mail on Sunday's headline.

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Boris himself is quoted in the Sunday Telegraph,

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saying the EU is pursuing a similar goal to Hitler and Napoleon

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in creating a European superstate, albeit with different methods.

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The Sunday Times says David Cameron fears being replaced

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It also reports on an alleged CIA tip-off which led

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The Sunday Express reports on a trial being carried out

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by the Government over the safety of statin drugs for the heart.

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I am ever so sorry if you have had enough of the referendum. I shall go

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now. We will do statin is in a minute to keep you interested. We

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will start with the Sunday Times. Cameron fears that Boris will be the

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next leader. The suggestion is it will go to somebody in the Brexit

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camp is David Cameron's new. What is the thinking? The thinking is it

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Brexit wins, and there is a lot of Boris to talk about, if the Brexit

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win, then Cameron will resign and Brexit will take over. But this

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whole campaign, which is so unpleasant and, I was going to use

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something rude, but let's say gentle man's posturing, it is becoming

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ridiculous. This is all about the Tory party, who is going to be the

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leader of the Tory party. The idea that the Tory party will be ripped

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apart, if it has not been already, only somebody who wants to leave

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Europe is the only one who could succeed, which is bad news for

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George Osborne. We are several weeks away from the actual voting and this

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is where the newspapers are taking the story. They are looking beyond

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the result. That is because politicians are taking the story

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there as well. A lot of talk in the House of commons this week has been

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about the succession of Cameron. The conventional wisdom would be that he

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has to go if there is Brexit. Now they are saying maybe he would not

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have to go. So then how does he negotiate our withdrawal if he does

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not go? Somebody suggested the way to do that is to make Michael Gove

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his Deputy Prime Minister who would then negotiate the exit from Europe.

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I do not believe that, but that is the kind of talk that is going on

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amongst MPs. They are thinking about now what will happen afterwards and

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there are still six weeks to go from making a decision. He did say, I am

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not going to serve a full-time. As soon as you do that, there is

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speculation about who will succeed him. And Boris is the favourite with

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the public to take over. There are a lot of MPs in the Tory party who

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say, we cannot have that. They want to find alternatives. But we ought

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to be concentrating on the campaign and the biggest decision in a

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lifetime and not about the politics of what happens afterwards. Whatever

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happened to George Osborne? He was supposed to be a shoo-in. If the

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Sunday Times is right and David Cameron thinks it will go to Brexit,

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then George Osborne is finished. One of the quotes in the story is that

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George Osborne thinks should there be a leadership election too

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quickly, he has not got a chance anyway. The Mail on Sunday, Nigel

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farad, I will back Boris as our PM. We thought it said sour PM. It looks

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like Nigel Farage would like a job. He would. He has always said during

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the general election campaign when it looked as if he would get some

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MPs, he said he would never work with Cameron. He has been absolutely

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consistent about that. Now he is saying he might be able to work with

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Boris. But all of this is against the backdrop of him doing the TV

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debate with Cameron, camera not facing Boris Johnson, and the Leave

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Campaign really angry about the fact they have not got them and their

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because Nigel Farage is a tangent to that whole thing. Six months ago he

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said this is not so much an interview as a lunch review. Simon

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Walters in the mail goes out to lunch and takes her Nigel Farage out

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and we do not have their menu, oh, yes it was shepherds pie, and the

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wind that they drank. Apparently he says he loves Boris and he compares

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him to Ronald Reagan. Why does he compare him like that? Because

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people said Ronald Reagan could not be president. But the former

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Archbishop of Canterbury? George Carey has come out for Brexit. I do

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not know if he was at the lunch, it does not say. Let's look at the

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Independent on Sunday. A lot of people have been saying if we can't

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establish the facts about staying or leaving because the facts are in

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dispute, it comes down to trust for a lot of people. The Independent on

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Sunday suggests that Boris is more trusted than Cameron. What do you

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think about that? It is appalled that they are doing for tomorrow

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morning and it shows that people think when Boris Johnson speaks he

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is twice as likely to tell the truth than David Cameron about Europe.

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When you look at the details of the poll it is fascinating because it is

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still evenly balanced on the people who think we are better in or better

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out. But there are still 38% of people who have not decided. Those

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are the people where it is all to play for. This referendum will go

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down to the wire and it will be the don't knows who will decide when

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they finally decide which way to go. A lot of people approach elections

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in this way, you walk into the ballot booth and you go, I have to

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pick something. Will that be the case? No, I do not think it will be

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the case. I have heard more people talking about this saying, what are

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you going to do, what do you think I should do? In all walks of life and

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in all circumstances, it is a conversation going around all the

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country. But these blokes, Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson, and to a

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certain extent David Cameron, are like a rugby club coach party that

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turns up when you are having a quiet drink and a sensible conversation.

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You think, could you shut up. There are millions of people who are

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taking this seriously and really do want to understand and this is a

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game about boys. Thank heavens for Harriet Harman getting involved in

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the week and talking about what it means. These are boys and it is

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silly and we need a bit of common sense. As you say, the polls show

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that there are an awful lot of people who have not decided and this

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is not helping. In terms of the gender of the politicians in charge,

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one of the problems I think is both sides are relying on project fear.

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For David Cameron he is putting out the fear of the unknown if we leave.

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For the Brexit site it is the fear of immigration. Both of them are

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grubby campaigns. The other thing they keep doing is throwing out

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figures that are meaningless. They pluck them out of the air, and even

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if they were true, they are hardly intelligible. They have to help

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people decide are they personally better off in or out. And talk about

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the future. Yes. It is not like the general election were it happens on

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June the 23rd and you have got five years of government, this is for

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ever, this is about our children grandchildren. What would be better

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would be to simplify the matter. There is too much information. I

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fear I should rebuke you for your sexist comments. The Sunday

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Telegraph, Boris, how the EU was super state how Hitler did. The

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other day somebody described what David Cameron was saying as

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Churchillian. Boris has been compared with Winston tonight. This

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is the nonsense, this is the overblown language where they are

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trying to outdo each other. To be fair, Boris is not quite saying that

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the EU wants a superstate as Hitler did. We have already seen the

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comments about Hitler that got Ken Livingstone in a mess. But he does

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say, Napoleon and Hitler, various people tried this out, this sense of

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the European Union, and it has always ended tragically. There is no

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underlying loyalty to the idea of Europe, there is no single authority

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that people respect. I feel if Boris carries on at this rate, he will

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take off like the Hindenburg. Like on the zip wire again. He might blow

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up with his own pomposity. It is ridiculous to start invoking Hitler,

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in the same way it was ridiculous during the week that Cameron

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suggested if we pulled out, it would start world War three. If he

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believes that, why are we holding a referendum? If that is the risk, we

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should not be doing any of this at all. By Nelly, statin. You would

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never have thought you would have been so pleased to hear that. The

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Sunday Express, government to fund fresh controversial heart drug amid

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fears of doctors overprescribing. I have read quite a few headlines in

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the express championing statin 's. Do not be so silly! How unusual is

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it for a government to fund a trial like this? It is not that unusual,

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but there is a lot of concern about Miss prescribing and mixed messages.

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Nigel is the expert on statin 's. I actually take them and I am angry

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about stories like this. I was told there were no side effects until I

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had muscle agony for three months. It was painful and you get used to

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them. Did it go away? Yes, but them. Did it go away? Yes, but

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initially it was unpleasant. However, the medical advice is

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constantly contradictory. How can we trust our doctors if at one point

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you are told you will take a miracle drug and the next point you are told

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it might kill you? This is the kind of stuff that is going out. I would

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rather they got it right first time around. They are doing it, they are

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spending this money to do this research. There are so many things

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that people say once upon a time was a wonder drug and then it is not. It

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comes down to the individual. You way up the evidence. And it is about

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the prescribing and whether it is appropriate to you and what else is

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going on. People might think they are watching casualty. That is it

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for this review. You will be back again earlier than usual. We will be

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back at quarter past 11. We will be here for another look at the front

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pages. Coming up it is time for

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