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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be


With me are Paul Johnson, the deputy editor of the Guardian,


and Tim Collins, a former Conservative MP and


managing director of Bell Pottinger Public Affairs.


Let's look at some of the front pages.


The FT leads on what it calls a European crackdown on tax paid


It says Google's Paris office was raided by the French authorities.


The Telegraph says Britain is spending almost twice


as much of its national wealth on foreign aid,


It also has a picture of the Duchess of Cambridge,


who's thanked midwives for delivering her children Prince


- saying attempts to woo young voters backfired for both sides


The Times leads on an investigation that up to 150,000 pre-school


children have been reported to social services, over fears


The paper says a series of abuse cases has led to a "climate of fear"


for those who refer their concerns to the authorities.


And the Guardian has a special report on Britain's tallest


residential skyscraper, The Tower, in London.


It says almost two-thirds of it's apartments are foreign owned,


We will get onto that story in a few minutes. But first, Tim, foreign top


spending. Is that because Britain are spending too much or other


countries are not spending enough? There is a lot to be proud of in


terms of what they do further children educated and the diseases


tackled and refugees helped but I think quite a lot of people in the


Conservative Party and this is picked up in the Daily Telegraph


story are asking the question, given the sheer scale of our deficit, that


made were borrowing and that meant we will expect our children and


grandchildren to pay, is every penny of the overseas aid budget


justified? As a proportion of our national wealth it is pretty much


twice as much as Germany and France, three times as much as Japan, the


USA and Italy. That might be fine when we were right at the crust of


the boom, lots of money to spend on public services at home. Is it


sensible for us to be giving money to India who today launched the


space programme? It is a Conservative Government who thinks


it is a good idea. And one that has the law making it a legal


requirement, but I think you may have noticed, Clive, Tories are


disagreeing with each other at the moment. On a whole host of things!


Paul, what is your reading of the story? We know it is 0.7% of GDP and


Tim is right in a sense, in that if you see the people, should we be


giving money abroad like this, a lot of people would question it. If you


see, however, this money enabled 9 million children to get into school,


saved 250,000 lives of unborn babies, helped combat Ebola, gave


drastically needed medical supplies for Gaza etc, then they start to


say, yes, it is quite a good idea, quite a popular thing. There is


another reason slightly hidden and one comparative is daft in this


case. We get almost ?1 billion to Syrian refugees. We do not take them


in the numbers that the Germans, for instance, do, so we spend that money


in Jordan on humanitarian aid rather than taking large numbers of


refugees. It comes out of this part. It depends how you ask the question


then, really, doesn't it? Are we sending too much money on foreign


aid? Actually the response depends on the phrase ology of the question.


And I think it also depends... I think you will find great public


support for spending money on that sort of things Paul is talking about


in some of the poorest countries in the world. Whether we need to be


giving that money to growing countries their own space


programmes, less easy to justify. Their argument is, yes, you will


have some film stars in Mumbai or whatever are doing well but actually


still have hundreds of millions of people -- millions of people,


certainly in China, who are still living below the poverty line. Yes,


but if we are cutting back our public services at home to cut our


overseas aid, it is perhaps reasonable for us to see perhaps


they could delay their space programme to educate their own


children. Are to the Financial Times. The raid on company mac's


Paris office, Paul? The French raising this text -- raising the


stakes when it comes to these taxes -- on Google's Paris office. Yes,


contrast with Britain, where Google paid a minuscule tax bill. You could


probably pay that minuscule tax bill, Clive, but what you would have


to do is pass your paycheque... I work for the BBC, all right! Pass


your paycheque to Dublin, then to the Netherlands, back to Dublin


again and it will end up in Bermuda. If you can get an arrangement like


that which is a bit tricky, you tax take goes right down. Exactly. The


French have decided they will play hardball and it was part of


Hollande's commitment in the election, that he would get tough on


companies not paying their taxes. As you said, Tim, the contrast with


Britain is very clear. I think most people rather admire the French with


this. And the figures... They do raise a bit of a mystery, Clive,


because apparently the French will go after Google for $1.6 billion, or


Euros, in back taxes. That slightly raises the question. How can Google,


and indeed Apple, how can they possibly sell anything in Europe


when the United States is not in the European Union? Apparently we are


told you cannot sell anything to the EU unless a member... I was hoping I


would not have to talk about that! Twisting it into Brexit. But it is


an important question. Maybe you can trade with Europe without being in


the EU. But there is a serious point here about the contrast in the way


the authorities here have treated the tech companies and the


authorities in France. And the authorities in Ireland, that is the


interesting thing. What company mac and Apple are trying to do is say


that our European HQ 's are in Ireland and all other European


revenues somehow get shuffled through Ireland and they have much


lower rates of tax than any rust -- Sierra Leone and Apple. -- Google


and Apple. Samak lets not cast a stone across the Irish Sea. George


Osborne described this as a major success. Google are going to pay all


that money in taxes. Most people did not think it was major success. But,


Paul, I thought we believed everything the Chancellor said at


the moment in the Guardian? George gets his numbers wrong? Really?


Gentlemen, please. I left my gavel in the other room but I will bring


the next time. OK, let's go to the Guardian, Paul. This really I


suppose goes to the heart of -- heart of Britain's housing crisis at


least in certain parts of the South East, of course London. Foreign


investors using the London housing market as basically a safe haven for


their investments? We looked at London's tallest tower block, call


the tower,, down in the Battersea area, and it is the lack has 2014


flats in it and nobody is registered to vote there. Two thirds of them


are foreign-owned, at least one quarter are secretly owned offshore


in tax havens. This is quite a remarkable... It is an eerily empty


place day in, day out. People say they go down to the swimming pool or


gym and nobody is there. In the concierge offers at the basement,


there are three clocks on the wall and they shall the times in Moscow,


Abu Dhabi and Hong Kong. It is sucking the life out of the area


around it. And is this indicative of what is going on in other


developments across London, across the UK? Or is it only London? Sinai


we think so. There is massive in red investment, people buying flats --


yes, we think so. It is exacerbating the housing crisis in the sense that


London, in actual fact, went back last year. 9% fewer houses built


than in the year before. This is causing an enormous squeeze and is


also having social consequences as well. Mean well, Tim, if you're are


firemen, policemen, teacher, you cannot afford to live in central


London? I think there is a real challenge and local authorities both


Tory and Labour are coming up with -- trying to come up with ways of


tackling it but of course what you do not want to do is kill the golden


goose. Developers are required, with put a building like this up, they


have to put up tens even hundreds of millions of pounds sides of the


local authorities can build affordable housing. The new mayor of


London, Siddique Khan, has a target for homes to be built in the capital


and he wants all of those to be paid for by developers. Developers will


have to build skyscrapers to do that, but I think there are real


questions about whether it can be appropriate for all of them -- Sadiq


Khan. I agree with Paul, this is a good piece. For all the residents to


be people who do not seem to spend much at any time in the UK. I think


that is a challenge even for people like me in favour of inward


investment. The emphasis does need to be... Ameen, it will be


interesting to see what Sadiq Khan does, but let's build homes for


people who live and work in London rather than for ghosts -- I mean, it


will be interesting. The subject of the day now.


The sujet du jour. LAUGHTER


. Blitz-mac migrants picked up in Europe. The crisis is dwindling. --


this is the kind of thing via Brexit ears are going to have to focus on


if they are going to convince the British people that out is the way


forward, because immigration, migration, it resonate with people


-- set-mac. Yes, for the Remained tied it is the economy and for the


leave side it is the immigration -- for the Remain side it is the


economy and for the Leave side it is immigration. Further down the court


Iain Duncan Smith at this point to the bigger problem. A couple of


months ago he was serving very happily, it seemed at the time in


David Cameron's Cabinet -- they quote. He is quoted as saying, the


refusal to engage in a fair contest is the definition of cowardice. That


is quite strong language. The issues being raised in this referendum I


think will not be resolved on May the -- to the 23rd and patching the


Tory party together will not be easy. At all? Yes, Tim is very


shaken by that Telegraph Pauls poll which assures it is almost game


over... I am delighted by the Times poll tonight which shows a swing to


the back. There are a number of Q, and, sure, but the leadership


of the Tory party are assembled in a firing squad, in a way, and as much


as I would like to see David Cameron debating Boris Johnson, Boris


Johnson, the man who accused the prim minister of "Demented


scaremongering", that would be quite lively but I do not think they will


do it. Blue on blue, we would call it, good for the entertainment, but


I think it shows the desperation of the situation they are in, to be


honest. The Metro. Who EU Kiddin? It has backfired somewhat? Yes,


firstly, the Remain camp came out with a totally patronising video


today which is on you tube and other places, speaking about raving,


working, earning, and I think the best response was from someone, I


suspect a young person, who tweeted back and said, shockingly, young


people do sometimes used the letter g.


LAUGHTER I see that the pro-Brexiteers have


this group set up and when they found out what it was for and


because they hotfooted it pretty quickly. I think we will be left


with Michael Gove and Boris Johnson onstage saying that -- singing that


old Animals hit, you know, we've got to get out of this place. Thank you


for joining us for a look at some of tomorrow morning's front pages. Much


more coming up. Thank you for watching The Papers. Good


Night. Good evening. A nice day for most of us. A bit of a breeze


perhaps but I hope you made the most of it. Some sunshine and a cool


breeze of the North Sea. Across the other side


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