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Hello and welcome to our look ahead at what the papers will be bringing

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us tomorrow. With me as broadcaster Rachel Shabi and the editor of the

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Spectator, Toby Young. Good evening to both of you. Let us get straight

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on to this. Most papers are still talking about the terrible events in

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Orlando but now we have the politicians weighing in, Hillary

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Clinton and Donald Trump. Yes, and as we may expect a have

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quite different styles in responding to this terrible attack in which 49

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people were killed. You would expect at this time, obviously people are

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still mourning and are still in shock and traumatised so you would

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expect something quite unifying, calls for solidarity and cohesion.

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You got the exact opposite with Trump who was quick to point fingers

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not just that Islam but both Clinton and President Obama for what he says

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was not taking the issue seriously. This amazing quote here where he

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says, we're being led by a man who is either not smart or not tough or

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has something else going on. This is inconceivable. This is even by his

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standards inflammatory. It is. It is awful. I don't think

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he's the only candidate politicising this. Clinton said that she would

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work to defeat Islamic extremism and call for tough on -- tougher gun

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control. She has said some consolatory things and good things

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but she is not innocent of politicising this either.

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I think there would have been at least a decent pause before battle

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resumed between the politicians if it happened in this country.

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You hope so but who knows. We don't have much time tonight so

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let us move on. This is the heart of Soho that came to a standstill.

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There was a terrorist attack in this area a few years ago against gay

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people when annual bomb was let off. Terrific to see so many people. It

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was not just in London. There were events in Palace and Sydney and

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elsewhere. Extraordinary. We were broadcasting

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the silence from the middle of London. Quite extraordinary.

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You could not not be moved by these scenes. In Soho, the heart of the

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LGBT community in the UK and across the world scenes of solidarity and

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support. It is hard not to be moved. They are such a powerful counter to

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the hate that we saw in Orlando. What do you make of the emotional

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out pouring? Sometimes people get criticised for it not being

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something directly to do with them but this has gone worldwide.

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I do not think you can criticise people for being emotional about

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this. People can imagine being trapped in this nightclub with

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someone with an automatic weapon just indiscriminately murdering

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people. And it is solidarity with a

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homophobic hate crime and that is what all this solidarity is about.

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It is in support of a community that has been targeted just for being a

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particular community. Let us hope that nothing similar

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takes place, no copycat things. Back to the referendum, you cannot avoid

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it. I think you have got to Leeds the stories very carefully to see

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which all we are talking about. What the question has been, I do not

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know. But in terms of do you want to leave or do you want to remain, it

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shows that the Leave campaign has taken a lead, according to this

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poll. It has become a 1-point gap for the levers. It seems this was

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the electorate as a whole and not just people who were intending to

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vote. But you do have to read it

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carefully. The headline is that amongst those certain to Vote Leave

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has taken a 1-point lead but amongst the entire electrode lead is five

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points behind remain. Admittedly, Leave his catching up and Remain is

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falling behind but it is slightly misleading.

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And the Daily Telegraph standard-bearer for the Leave

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campaign have to look at it and do that prison.

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But it is being corroborated by one or two others tonight.

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Look at the Sun newspaper tonight. They do like to think the influence

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things. Whether newspapers do or not I'm not so sure that they are

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nailing their colours to the mast. I don't think it is surprising that

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they have come out as they have been pity pro leave. I don't think you

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can dispute that it is good for democracy that the newspapers are

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roughly evenly split this time. Back in 1975 the sun was pro-remain apart

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from every other major national newspaper.

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That is not my impression. Of course nobody is surprised by The Sun

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backing Leave. But it does skew things. The front pages of The Sun

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-- of newspapers of the last few months has had a stream of panic

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stories. If the proprietors were different and the headlines were

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different what would that no look like? I don't know if it is great

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for democracy when we have right wing privately owned newspapers as a

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norm. There are left-wing newspapers such

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as the Guardian and the Observer campaigning for remain.

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They are the one. How do you have the Daily Mail being

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pro leave and the Mail on Sunday being pro-remain?

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Conspiracy is not the word I used. The other subject we cannot get away

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from is the third ball. Where do we start? These rather frightful

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looking gentleman are from Russia. They do not look that Savary. This

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is a thing that is emerging, that there were 150 hard-core Russian

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thugs that were well and were planning this. This is one of the

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reasons why it needed difficult to catch them.

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This is a frightening prospect. I was upset about the coverage that

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these episodes got on Saturday night with seemingly the England fans

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being cast as the villain is because of their poor reputation but the

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more you read about what happened on the ground, it is clear that for the

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most part innocent England fans were attacked by groups of well-organised

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Ushant bugs wearing mixed martial arts gloves, ready to fight. This is

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the point that great date that -- Greg Dyke has made today.

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Football does not exist in a vacuum. We have seen a rise of the far right

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across Europe. Of course that is going to leak into football.

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I don't think that is true of England.

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I think England has some responsibility here and it is not

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entirely blameless. Thank you both very much. I am

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afraid that is in it. Don't forget, all the front pages are online on

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the BBC News website we can read a detailed review of the papers seven

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days a week. And you can see a spear again, what it alight. -- what a

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delight. Goodbye.

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