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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me is our very own synchro team.

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Journalist Lucy Cavendish and Tom Bergin business

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The Daily Telegraph leads on claims from a prominent

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surgeon that rationing in the National Health Service

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will lead to "crippling pain", as waiting times

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will lead to "crippling pain", as waiting times extend for years.

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The Metro has the story of a fatal high speed crash involving a vehicle

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being pursued by police, after a drone was allegedly flown

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The Financial Times reports that Turkey's President Erdogan has

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agreed to restore what he called the "axis of friendship"

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with Russia after a meeting with President Putin in Moscow.

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The FT notes this comes just eight months after Turkey shot down

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a Russian fighter plane over northern Syria.

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The Guardian quotes the Labour deputy leader Tom Watson,

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alleging that Trotskyist infiltration is putting

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The Times quotes a leaked army report which says the Russian

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military has the edge over the UK in battle.

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We start with the Telegraph and the Olympics. I've been glued to this,

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we're going to enter next time as a synchro team. I need a bigger pair

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of shorts but as soon as it's available. I am glued to it and

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there is something to me about it, seeing people compete at such a high

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level having trained so hard, boss of them are young. Today one of our

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synchro girls, just 16, just so impressive and to see people do that

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and the amount of effort is something about it being Brazil, the

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Brazilians who the people they don't like and cheer the Brazilians. They

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do things, the wrong sort of things in the tennis, clap at the wrong

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time but it's got serious with this complaint about the Russians. The

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female silver medallist who got a reprieve to come at the 11th hour

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who is a form, let's be clear, a former drugs cheat, has been booed

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when she picked up her medal and the American girl that won it wagged her

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finger and there is a feeling, which I understand, because it puts up my

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heckles a bit, that there is something a bit fishy about this

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because of what has happened over the drugs. She has spoken out and

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said this is a Cold War and they shouldn't be in the Olympics and the

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Olympics should be somewhere where it is put to one side but is

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difficult to put it to one side when you know what has happened. She got

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the silver medal in the 100m breaststroke, Tom. And in her

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semifinal she won her semifinal and a wagged her finger to save I'm

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number one. The American who came in another semifinal won her semifinal

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and said I'm number one and then you have the final and who won? The

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United States. Lilly King has been very outspoken, in her early 20s,

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she said cheats should not be allowed to compete and she was

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saying this as Yulia Efimova was at the other end of the conference

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table. One is hoping that as the games continue the whole thing about

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drugs starts to recede, maybe, possibly.

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The one way you can do that is to have zero tolerance. She is a former

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drugs cheat. Twice. I'm not sure if I went around making stories up and

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a year later I would be a former fabricator. The point is at the end

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of the day cheating in sports is about the worst thing you can do. I

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don't know many professions where the West possible act is committed

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and you are allowed back. It doesn't happen in law and lots of other

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professions which have a lower profile than sports. I don't know

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about the cases and the specific issue here, but at the end of the

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day it is unusual in today's world with transparency and openness, the

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expectations are higher. It doesn't seem to be in sport that the

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governing bodies seem to be following that trend. There is so

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much riding on those athletes and swimmers, and whomever are

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competing, who have been deemed to be incredibly clean. So Lilly King

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winning was seen as a big deal. Usain Bolt, another example, we had

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this in 2012 who beat Justin Gatlin who had been done twice for doping.

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The credibility of the export sat on the shoulders of Lilly King and

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Usain Bolt, which is a lot to carry. It is quite complicated because a

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lot of people will say the rules around it keep changing. There is

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lots of this, I didn't know it was banned, my flu remedy, slightly

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different to what happened with the Russian athletes. That is a

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completely different story. It is quite a complicated story. There

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were allegations around Mo Farah because of what happened. It is

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something that doesn't really go away and I don't think it's going to

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go away. But I agree with you, it is supposed to be clean, people are

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supposed to get there and do their best, that is the point. And if you

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have done something else to enhance your performance, of course it

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doesn't feel in anyway fair hence the billing. And

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what is the point of watching? You might just have an Olympics for

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steroids. Lots of people aren't watching it of that. It was always

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the ethos that made it attractive as a non-sportsperson. NHS rationing

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will cripple patients. The NHS faces cash problems, it's an old story. It

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has been that way for some time and now this leading doctor is saying it

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is getting worse and getting to the point where really hard decisions

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have to be made. We cannot provide the level of cover price to people.

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It opens up the question again, can we ration care. There has been some

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attempt to do this. Drugs agencies monitor whether a drug is value for

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money and whether we should use it. Some are becoming incredibly

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expensive, those drugs. The question is, can we actually do this? There

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is only so much efficiency you can squeeze out of it and we don't have

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the money, usually we rely on economic growth for more money. This

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is a moot point isn't it? We are getting ?350 million back from the

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EU. What is the problem? And my friend's mother who has crippling

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arthritis in her neck and can get treated because she's 84. How many

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people know somebody in their 80s who isn't getting treated because

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it's an ageing population and the older you get you are put on a back

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burner. Basically, you are only going one way at the age of 84. And

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then crippling pain and can't even get an appointment at the GP. There

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is a slight problem. Most people believe, and over generations we

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have believed if I'm in pain and anger I will go to my doctor and be

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cured and fixed. What we are really saying is, actually you will not be

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fixed because maybe it is your cataracts or you are a bit too old,

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or it is not particularly urgent. As they say here lots of people with

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elements which turn out to be something else, like cancer that no

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one has noticed, so if you have someone on a waiting list for three

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years it is too long. It could be curtains.

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Onto the Financial Times, the Bank of England runs into trouble on the

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second day of post-Brexit bond buying. OK. Tinbergen, business

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correspondent for Reuters. Explain the problem we're having here with

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this element of monetary policy for the Bank of England. -- Tom Bergin.

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This is a bizarre situation, the Bank of England basically cannot

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give away money. I'm laughing. Why am I laughing? It suggests we are in

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trouble. The Bank of England sees the economy is in a weak position,

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especially so after the Brexit vote. They are trying to inject money into

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the economy to create demand in the economy so they have gone out,

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printed money for themselves and now going out to buy bonds to inject it

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into the economy. The problem is the pension funds who hold these bonds

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will not sell them to them, they need the bombs to meet long-term

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liabilities so we are in this strange situation where today the

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Bank of England had an excess of ?50 billion it couldn't get rid of in

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terms of buying bonds. We were discussing it earlier. The question

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of, are we going to get the situation where central bankers have

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to consider some of the strangest ideas they have ever looked at in

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the past? People have discussed helicopter money, throwing money out

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of helicopters. Giving away ?1000. I'm not sure we will get there yet

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but who knows? People would stick it under the bed and not spend it which

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is the point. I would just spend it. Seriously, though, are we talking

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about the monetary policy of the Bank of England running into the

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buffers? They cannot give money away, they have interest rates down

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to close to zero, probably the next step. It will have to be the

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Government intervening in some way with capital investment, I don't

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know... Whatever else they feel they can do. You have hit it on the head.

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The reality is that this shows some of the obvious ideas, and this was a

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new enough idea but more recently. Whether fiscal, the IMF has talked

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more about infrastructure investment, so who knows? Who knows?

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That's the end of that one. Let's talk about old trots. Trotskyist

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infiltration putting Labour at risk. I'm fascinated about this, coming

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from a core Bennite. -- called on supporters. Somebody asked me if I

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knew what they Trotskyist was anymore which is a valid point. My

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kids have known what Trotskyism is because they have read Animal Farm.

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It's interesting because what Watson is saying, and I shouldn't laugh,

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but it has been infiltrated by trots. I'm thinking, what does that

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mean, how many of them are there, and what is going on here? But his

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point is, because of this whole situation lots of people have joined

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the Labour Party to become social revolutionaries and that is what

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will happen, like Trotsky ended up dead and everything else. We all end

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up dead. Ended up murdered! It is not about being elected. And I kind

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of thing, why does anyone think that's a good idea? I'm Labour Party

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supporter. Why would you infiltrate a party to make sure it doesn't

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become elected and start social revolution only about the handful of

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Trotskyites are interested in. That is an interesting question. Why Tom

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is saying this now I'm not sure. First of all he was elected by a lot

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of those members who support Jeremy Corbyn so that is why it is

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surprising he is saying this. He says it is a small nub of

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Trotskyists out of the party for years sidelined by the Blairite

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revolution and they are now coming back and what they are doing is

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convincing lots of young people that the hard left is the way forward. In

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one sense we are seeing an increasingly polarised world. We are

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seeing voters moving far to the left and right in many jurisdictions. But

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it is interesting. We will not be effective opposition and not be in

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government. The reality is since the election the Conservative Party has

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been more effective opposition, when policies were seen as far too

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right-wing conservative members were arguing against that. It is an

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interesting situation which seems to be leaving the Labour Party not

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setting the agenda in politics. Off the agenda, way off the agenda. It

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could also be about creating social movement that brings about change

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within structures across the country rather than Westminster. That would

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be lovely. But that is just what they might say. That is just what

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they say. You hit the nail on the head, Tom! If they were actually

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articulate! Thank you for that, you will be back in half an hour. We

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will look at more stories behind the headlines. Stay with us, because all

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of the headlines Dunne papers are online and I will be back with the

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headlines at the top of the hour. Thanks to you two, see you in a bit.

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