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as well as a video highlights screenplay on the BBC website. That

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is all the sport, now it is time for the papers.

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Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers.

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With me are James Rampton and Josie Cox.

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The Observer features an interview with Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn,

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in which he criticises his deputy Tom Watson.

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Prime Minister Theresa May is Britain's most popular

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politician, and is even regarded positively by 20 per cent

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seen a leaked letter from the International

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Trade Secretary Liam Fox, which suggests he and Boris Johnson

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are arguing about who controls key parts of foreign policy.

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a royal wedding next year - in a special report it says

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is about private briefings by government ministers to City

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executives that Britain could remain a member of the EU until late 2019,

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a year later than previously anticipated.

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by the Mail on Sunday after he recovered from a fall

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Let's begin. Jeremy Corbyn, my deputy is talking nonsense and he

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knows it. That is all in the Observer, trots and plot, what you

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make of it? Laughing. This really looks like all-out war. It is hard

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to see how any cohesiveness can be returned to the party within the

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next few weeks even in the next few months. A couple of decades!

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Rhetoric is becoming very strong. The claims that have been thrown

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against the party by Tom Watson last week in this apparent letter, they

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were punchy. It is perhaps not surprising that Jeremy Corbyn is

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coming out and saying this. What do you make of it? There is no

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observable good outcomes of the Labour Party at least in the next

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year or two. I am metaphorically sitting here with my head in my

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hands, I would naturally be a Labour supporter, but it seems like a

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suicide cults. The inter-warfare that is going on, even if Jeremy

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Corbyn does win, what happens to the 80% of the Parliamentary Labour

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Party MPs who voted no confidence in him just a few weeks ago. There must

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be a split, there must be two parties, that is disastrous at a

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moment where the Labour Party has a massive responsibility in my view to

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tackle the iniquities of the Tory government, it is fighting itself.

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For democracy, that is a disaster. Also I'd talk about unity and taking

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the fight to the Tories, but when they have had a few open goals, the

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question of the resignation honours with David Cameron, the resignation

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of Iain Duncan Smith, people were asking where was the fight. -- sides

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talk about. There are two completely different ideologies and what the

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Labour Party should be in this day and age, if there is no cohesiveness

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and agreement on that, where is the credible opposition? Interesting

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question. When the open goal appears, they do not run over and

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capable, they ran over and kick themselves! LAUGHTER

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Labour blacklist 1000 today, Labour officials have been identifying

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entries as they try to stop members of rival parties and hard left

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factions influencing the party leadership. This is more if you like

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trots. This is the question of what is an interest. This 1000 today, it

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is such a huge number that I cannot begin to imagine where they are

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finding these people and begin to imagine how much trawling through...

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They trailed through social media accounts. What qualifies? It is like

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McCarthyism! Also, why not? If you were a Conservative Party member and

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you had felt that the Labour Party was for you, what is the reason why

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you cannot join? By Labour Party rules you cannot be a member of

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another party. Someone with a militant tents and see from the

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1980s had said I may be readmitted. -- tendency. Leon Trotsky said that

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they should secretly join to form a Trotskyite cult within the Labour

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Party. That is where the phrase entries comes from. If that happens

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we have two totally separate parties fighting each other rather than the

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Tories. Let's move on to the other front-page story in the Sunday

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Times. Brexit will be delayed until the end of 2019, Whitehall is not

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ready for talks. In a sense you think we kind of know that. Article

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50 has not impressed, it takes two years, do the maths. Two years from

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say Christmas would take you up to 2019. This is not brand-new in the

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sense that I think it is something Sadiq Khan referred to last week and

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he was saying we need to... He used the phrase square the circle on

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issues like migration, trade, rushing into anything would lead to

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more panic and could lead to the brain drain which people have been

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talking about, people relocating away from the city to places like

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Dublin, Frankfurt and Paris. We need to avoid that. You have a calming

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influence of Philip Hammond trying to say look, we will still be able

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to pay the farmers, we will be able to pay the scientists, we will be

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able to do things until 2020. You have that pool, on the other hand we

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have people saying why aren't we still in the EU? -- why are we still

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in the EU? There are two different factions in the Tory party, there

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are the moaning Remainers who are furious about how it has turned out

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and the head-bangers have said let's get a move on! What I find

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interesting is insiders are saying they are setting up two new

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departments. Liam Fox is trying to recruit 1000 trade policy experts,

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but he is only found fewer than 100. We have not negotiated his 1973.

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There is no one with that expertise out there unless they go to

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Brussels! You can find them all there! Let's go to the Sunday

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Telegraph. Boris and Liam Fox in a bitter feud, we have done the Labour

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Party, let's do the Conservative Party. The only thing missing is

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David Davis's name. He has a slice of this pie as well. That is

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mentioned in the Sunday Times story. David Davis 's role is also to be

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defined and the resources that he has has not been made clear. He is a

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big person in the party. Absolutely. This is classic turf war and what we

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are risking here is losing sight of the bigger issue at hand which is

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basically what the Times article writes about. Not having the

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resources available, this is not a time where we need in fighting like

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in the Labour Party. We need a united front. I am just guessing

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here, but I suspect Theresa May has very little interest in hearing her

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ministers bicker about something like a turf war when you are looking

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at Brexit. There is a nanny knows best put-down, she said she is

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unimpressed with this sort of carry on. She is absolutely right. There

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is a lovely Matt cartoon. David Cameron turn to it every morning.

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Wife says to the husband, is that borrowers and Liam Fox discussing

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Brexit or Olympic judo? -- Boris. This is a massive ego battle.

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Michael Gove did brilliantly destroying his two supposedly best

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friends in politics, Johnson only temporarily and it became a huge

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battle of ego waving. This is the same thing, three very alpha males,

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Davies, Johnson and Liam Fox or having to share the same house, that

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would be a great reality TV show, the Big Brother house! Very much

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Brexit ears! Theresa May may have played a blinder. -- Brexit

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supporters. I wonder if either of you reflecting on what is going on

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in labour and Conservatives and the magnitude of what is ahead, we have

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a PM who is very popular according to polls we have today, but she has

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not got a personal mandate, she may be tempted to have an election

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sometime in the next year, there are difficulties, but politically it may

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make sense. Especially if she sees herself at a dead end with

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everything that is going on around her. Just going back to the

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Telegraph. What is interesting is that in this case and I do not know

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whether this is just the way it is written, Liam Fox looks like he has

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taken the aggressive stance and there is a sentence towards the end

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of the article where it says Boris would theoretically agree to suck on

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some resources from his camp into the Fox's camp which is not

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something that we know of Boris on stock that is quite

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uncharacteristic. One said that Liam Fox's letter is very strong

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language. It does make you think, where is all this heading? This

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massive ego clash is going on, we have a country to run and Theresa

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May may say unlike Gordon Brown who bottled it soon after becoming Prime

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Minister, if I run for election now, serve this tide of popularity,

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Gordon Brown act out of that, I could get a bigger mandate and

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change the terms. -- backed out. They could say we do not want the

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hard Brexit that some people are advocating, we have had a full

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general election campaign where we have discussed the issues

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comprehensively and you cannot avoid Brexit entirely, but you could

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soften it. Interesting. Here is an answer to all the party problems,

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how to avoid a Brexit break-up. Relate's advice to couples. LAUGHTER

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What puzzles me about this is how many couples do you know that all

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many? I know parents and children many? I know parents and children

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who are at war, I interviewed a comedian the other day who says he

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calls his parents Lord and Lady snob, I will not tell you who it is.

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They are at the adamant that Leave is the right thing to do and he said

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they very selfish, they said they are worried about pensions and we do

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not want to get involved in a Greek financial crisis with the Euro. We

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want to cut ourselves off from the world and in so late ourselves from

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the trouble and we voted for the. This comedian is an open-minded,

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Euro minded person. He is furious. My daughter was abroad when this

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happened and she said she was the areas, the older generation have

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stolen my future. When you look at the breakdown of who voted what and

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their attitudes to various things, they tend to be different, that is

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according to the polls, I just wondered if there were many cases

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for Relate's advice. I know one couple who is definitely on polar

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opposites sides of the debate. Are they seeing Relate? They do not talk

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about it, that is maybe the only way forward for a lot of people for the

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top of the Sunday express has Princess Eugenie to marry. Over to

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you on this one. Here is a ticking time bomb false. My little knowledge

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of the Royal family, Eugenie could be to marry in 2017 or not. I am

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glad you cleared that one up! LAUGHTER

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Mighty Mouse Farrah, The Mail on Sunday, the Daily Express point out

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they are 30 PG further The Mail on Sunday. -- 30p cheaper than The Mail

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on Sunday. This is a proper news story. Congratulations to them to

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get it on the front page at three in the morning. People working through

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the nights to make sure that was on the front page. What is

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extraordinary is he fell over, he was tripped accidentally by his

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training partner who was covered in blood, he got up and he beat his

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rival in the spring to the line. He is the most decorated British

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athlete, he is a total hero. We will have to believe it's there, Mighty

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Mouse Farrah

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