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chased them down 150 348. They reach their target with five to spare. And | :00:00. | :00:00. | |
that from now is all the sport. Delyn BBC News, the papers. | :00:00. | :00:15. | |
Hello and welcome to our Sunday morning edition of The Papers. | :00:16. | :00:18. | |
With me are the former President of the polling firm YouGov, | :00:19. | :00:21. | |
Peter Kellner, and Sebastian Payne of the Financial Times. | :00:22. | :00:23. | |
Let's take a quick look at some of the front pages. | :00:24. | :00:32. | |
The Telegraph calls the Rio Games Britain's greatest ever, | :00:33. | :00:34. | |
The paper's main story is a crackdown on cosmetic surgeons | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
who will be named and shamed for poor practice. | :00:38. | :00:41. | |
The Observer leads with a call from the London Mayor to Labour | :00:42. | :00:44. | |
party members telling them to back Owen Smith in the party's | :00:45. | :00:47. | |
Sadiq Khan says Jeremy Corbyn has been a disaster for the party. | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
Nicola Adams's gold medal win is pictured on the | :00:52. | :00:54. | |
The paper reports on warnings that Rio may be Team GB's last great | :00:55. | :01:03. | |
games, if economic problems in the future force a cut | :01:04. | :01:05. | |
The Mail on Sunday says Theresa May has been dragged | :01:06. | :01:11. | |
into a party scandal involving allegations of bullying. | :01:12. | :01:15. | |
The Express hails a 'golden era' for British sport, alongside | :01:16. | :01:18. | |
a picture of the gold-winning kayaker, Liam Heath. | :01:19. | :01:22. | |
And the Sunday Times says Theresa May will harness the spirit | :01:23. | :01:27. | |
of Britain's Olympic "world beaters" to draw up a blueprint for Brexit. | :01:28. | :01:36. | |
Let's start with that Sunday Times story. Sebastien perhaps you will | :01:37. | :01:46. | |
start. It is about politicians, the headline is the glorious games and I | :01:47. | :01:49. | |
is all about the politicians and the brain and is making use of that. | :01:50. | :01:54. | |
Absolutely. These games have been a great moment for the country, a warm | :01:55. | :01:58. | |
fuzzy feeling to see Britain doing well against a country like China | :01:59. | :02:02. | |
that has a population of 1 billion or something like that and if you | :02:03. | :02:05. | |
look at the medals we have versus the performance and the money it is | :02:06. | :02:09. | |
a fantastic story so naturally politicians are keen to get on the | :02:10. | :02:17. | |
coat-tails of this. Shoehorning this end, Theresa May is talking about | :02:18. | :02:21. | |
the idea of backing excellence. I am not sure how you can find excellence | :02:22. | :02:24. | |
in the future but apparently that is what Brexit Britain will do, how | :02:25. | :02:30. | |
only industrial strategy will work in the economy will be just like the | :02:31. | :02:33. | |
Olympic Games or something like that. Peter, a senior cabinet | :02:34. | :02:38. | |
minister are named tells the paper about this. I do apologise, we get a | :02:39. | :02:47. | |
name. I am less cynical than Sebastien because I think there are | :02:48. | :02:51. | |
lessons to be learned from the Olympics, I am not sure this | :02:52. | :02:53. | |
government will learn indeed the Labour Party because this is new a | :02:54. | :02:59. | |
success for the right-wing paradigm of the free market not the left-wing | :03:00. | :03:03. | |
paradigms of state intervention. What we had was substantial public | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
funding through the lottery, strong national leadership in a number of | :03:08. | :03:13. | |
sports and close full -- close cooperation with the voluntary | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
sector. Later on in the Sunday Times on the comment pages one of her | :03:19. | :03:24. | |
British entrepreneurs, he says why doesn't Britain have a Google. Allah | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
says because the Americans, they invested a lot through the | :03:30. | :03:32. | |
government and the universities in these tech start-ups. So if we learn | :03:33. | :03:39. | |
the real lessons from the Olympics, from both the right and the left the | :03:40. | :03:43. | |
need to be some hard thinking about what has made Britons were | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
successful in this last fortnight. Indeed every will get parades and | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
things, Sebastien, there was some doubt about whether there will be | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
one in London and that is bound to be. The politicians will be the big | :03:56. | :03:58. | |
time. Absolutely and they want to harness this mood but what about | :03:59. | :04:04. | |
your point Peter, there are lessons for all politicians. On the left | :04:05. | :04:07. | |
this is an example of how we have taken public funds and use them well | :04:08. | :04:11. | |
but for people on the right it is not just black and public funds, | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
that is the point, if you take Google, what the US was trying to do | :04:17. | :04:19. | |
was they had a problem which was searching, they put money in the | :04:20. | :04:24. | |
academics, it filtered through and they found these two chaps and set | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
up Google. We have done exactly the same thing with cycling and all of | :04:30. | :04:32. | |
the sport we have done well and I'm sure the government will try and do | :04:33. | :04:35. | |
that and we will see if it works. We can say one thing, the government | :04:36. | :04:40. | |
will not be not investing in the Olympics in the future, they will | :04:41. | :04:44. | |
want to make sure that 2020 is just as successful as this. Indeed. Let's | :04:45. | :04:51. | |
move on. The mail on Sunday, Peter, going back to this long-running | :04:52. | :04:57. | |
business, May and the Tatler Tory, linking the Prime Minister to a | :04:58. | :05:02. | |
scandal. Something for going on inside the Tory party. The key | :05:03. | :05:08. | |
characters and Matt Clarke who ran a thing called the road to some years | :05:09. | :05:12. | |
ago and he has been engulfed in all sorts of allegations about sexual | :05:13. | :05:21. | |
malpractice, one of the people involved ended up committing | :05:22. | :05:24. | |
suicide. Arguably the Conservative Party should have got shot of him | :05:25. | :05:27. | |
along time ago. Allegations which are denied. Theresa May some years | :05:28. | :05:34. | |
ago congratulated him on the marvellous was doing. I think it is | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
a bit of a stretch to blame the Prime Minister for this. She was not | :05:40. | :05:44. | |
running the party at the time, she was Home Secretary. She has been | :05:45. | :05:47. | |
asked to go along to support someone who is in place and has not been | :05:48. | :05:51. | |
dismissed and of course what is any senior party figure going to do but | :05:52. | :05:56. | |
see you are doing a terrific job. It is odd but I don't think this story | :05:57. | :06:02. | |
will last more than 24 hours. I suspect, it is interesting, the | :06:03. | :06:06. | |
premise as she now Home Secretary, she can be seen slapping the smiling | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
Mark Clark on the back. An uncharacteristically excited misses | :06:12. | :06:16. | |
me tells Clarke and so on. If you look at the picture we have here, | :06:17. | :06:20. | |
this confirms all of the stuff that has come up about the scandal, it is | :06:21. | :06:26. | |
in a pub, you have this fellow and his mistress apparently the Prime | :06:27. | :06:31. | |
Minister, but the key thing is Theresa May loves campaigning, even | :06:32. | :06:34. | |
after she became Prime Minister she went straight back onto the | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
doorsteps to really go and push the conservative message. The thing we | :06:39. | :06:42. | |
found out from this whole road that scandal this week is it did work in | :06:43. | :06:46. | |
some cases. The Conservative Party did find it useful to win seats. It | :06:47. | :06:52. | |
is not a surprise that Theresa May liked it. She probably had no idea | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
who this guy was. Was a volunteer in the party. Let's move on. The | :06:58. | :07:05. | |
Observer, right, I have the Observer here in the desk I think. Some | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
people are debating whether I had it right but I have. London they are | :07:09. | :07:14. | |
Sadiq Khan seeing bits Corp and now afford it is too late. Google | :07:15. | :07:21. | |
staffers on this? Sebastien. It is interesting to me that a couple of | :07:22. | :07:24. | |
days ago Sadiq Khan was asked this question firmly and he said he would | :07:25. | :07:28. | |
not get involved a few years coming out and really damning Jeremy | :07:29. | :07:32. | |
Corbyn. It is a bold move because the not forget that Sadiq Khan was | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
one of the 35 MPs who backed Jeremy Corbyn for the Labour leadership | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
last year. In his article... Element he nominated him, he did not vote | :07:42. | :07:48. | |
for him. We don't know that. He said he didn't. Again this whole thing is | :07:49. | :07:50. | |
flip-flopping a little bit but he does say I do not regret nominating | :07:51. | :07:54. | |
him because the party had to have that but it is very damning and it | :07:55. | :08:00. | |
reflects what a lot of Labour MPs are saying which is that the EU | :08:01. | :08:04. | |
referendum was a crunch point, the public did not know Jeremy Corbyn 's | :08:05. | :08:08. | |
view in the did not campaign and if UV has now done more campaign events | :08:09. | :08:11. | |
for its own leadership in the dead for the whole of the EU referendum | :08:12. | :08:15. | |
and for those in the Labour Party they found it totally unacceptable | :08:16. | :08:18. | |
that he can campaign strongly for himself but not for the EU, so many | :08:19. | :08:23. | |
people in labour like yourself will feel strongly about this. Jeremy | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
Corbyn seems to be the man who will get the readership the matter what | :08:28. | :08:34. | |
people like Sadiq Khan say. My record predictions is not a great | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
one. I think Corp and probably will win, it will be closer than some | :08:39. | :08:42. | |
people think but we will see. Let me say this. Sadiq Khan is now the | :08:43. | :08:49. | |
tenth, 20th, 30th Labour MP to oppose carbon on the specific | :08:50. | :08:52. | |
grounds that Corp can't win a general election for Labour. What | :08:53. | :08:58. | |
you are not getting is these MPs on the whole see actually Jeremy Corbyn | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
's politics are wrong. This is the debate that isn't happening inside | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
the Labour Party as to whether it should lodge towards being a | :09:07. | :09:11. | |
thoroughgoing Socialist party, which Jeremy Corbyn consistently in his | :09:12. | :09:18. | |
campaign and 33 years as an MP, Corbyn has been a consistent | :09:19. | :09:21. | |
hardline socialist so why aren't his opponents taking him on unseen | :09:22. | :09:25. | |
hardline socialism, we tried that in the 20th century in a number of | :09:26. | :09:29. | |
countries and it was disastrous. But Labour seem scared of having the | :09:30. | :09:35. | |
debate. Let's move on. Do you have the Sunday Telegraph? One of you | :09:36. | :09:42. | |
does. Let's look at that. First of all they do the greatest games, | :09:43. | :09:45. | |
wonderful coverage they have that. That is Nicola Adams. Hasn't Nicola | :09:46. | :09:52. | |
Adams done well? But the main story let's go onto that. It is all about | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
cosmetic surgery, naming and shaming. Most people will find it | :09:58. | :10:02. | |
very strange that these people are not regulated, the specialists who | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
do not just cosmetic surgery around the face, they do I surgery, they | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
are not properly regulated at the moment. It is one of those stories | :10:11. | :10:17. | |
that again, like the dangerous dogs thing, the public have very strong | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
feelings about the sort of thing. If you have a laser eye operation it is | :10:21. | :10:24. | |
not well regulated, it has a huge personal impact on you. It should | :10:25. | :10:30. | |
rightly be called out on. Closing up that sort of the pool is a good | :10:31. | :10:33. | |
thing for the government to do. It is not something that you can argue | :10:34. | :10:39. | |
about because it is straightforward. The are not operating correctly the | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
government should be clamping down. It is the I surgery thing that | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
interests me. I say it is so crucial but not very well regulated until | :10:50. | :10:54. | |
now. That is right. But one always has the question in any industry we | :10:55. | :10:57. | |
have the same thing with care homes and regulation. When anything goes | :10:58. | :11:03. | |
wrong anywhere people say, it should be regulated. Here's the problem. If | :11:04. | :11:08. | |
you have too much regulation and you stifle enterprise and you end up | :11:09. | :11:13. | |
with fewer decent services, and the trick is to get the right balance | :11:14. | :11:18. | |
will stop clearly here we have not got the right balance, we probably | :11:19. | :11:23. | |
do need more regulation. But let's not go overboard and say let's | :11:24. | :11:26. | |
regulate everything. Let's go back, we have the Sun, we are on the | :11:27. | :11:33. | |
inside pages with quite a short story that I reckon could be an | :11:34. | :11:39. | |
important one. Sebastien, it is Jeremy Corbyn, rebels Co-op split. | :11:40. | :11:46. | |
Coming back to the point about what is going on in the Labour Party, is | :11:47. | :11:51. | |
Jeremy Corbyn wins again and he probably is most likely to even it | :11:52. | :11:55. | |
is by a smaller margin than last time, what do those moderate MPs do | :11:56. | :11:58. | |
who do not believe in a hardline socialist agenda? The Co-op party | :11:59. | :12:04. | |
which is linked to the Labour Party but a separate entity, may become | :12:05. | :12:10. | |
more of its own faction and those moderate MPs may try and create the | :12:11. | :12:18. | |
Co-op party within Parliament. This is part of the cooperative movement | :12:19. | :12:22. | |
which I'm sure you all about, as they can use that to promote their | :12:23. | :12:26. | |
own agenda and push it forward and to have a distinction between | :12:27. | :12:30. | |
Corbyn's readership. These rebels have tried to get rid of him at Owen | :12:31. | :12:35. | |
Smith, if that doesn't work they have no way of differentiating | :12:36. | :12:39. | |
themselves. This could be big. The Sunday Times has the same story in | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
greater length, it contains the key point which is that the speaker, if | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
they want to have varied opposition instead of Corbyn then they must do | :12:51. | :12:54. | |
it through a separate political entity that is recognised by the | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
electoral commission. And the Co-op party is recognised by the electoral | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
commission so that makes it a possible routes down the track or | :13:03. | :13:07. | |
Jeremy Corbyn two replaces the former Leader of the Opposition by | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
one of the other current Labour MPs who may become a Co-op MP. It sounds | :13:12. | :13:17. | |
wonderfully old-fashioned. The record of party split in the past, | :13:18. | :13:23. | |
it does not seem to work. Maybe it is all about to change. You are | :13:24. | :13:29. | |
absolutely right, the last time it was tried in the 1980s when the | :13:30. | :13:32. | |
social Democrats broke away from the Labour Party it helps keep the | :13:33. | :13:36. | |
Conservatives in power for 18 years. Maybe the same will happen this | :13:37. | :13:39. | |
time. The trouble is looking at the Labour Party I can see any route out | :13:40. | :13:46. | |
of the present dungeon that leads it quickly to the sunlight. They have | :13:47. | :13:50. | |
got to if I can extend the metaphor, there is a lot of dark tunnelling | :13:51. | :13:56. | |
for years to come. Going back to the same point, a lot of the younger | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
members to back Jeremy Corbyn, it is a fact of life. Absolutely and this | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
is the problem facing those MPs that you can keep challenging Jeremy | :14:06. | :14:09. | |
Corbyn and they will challenging if he wins this leadership contest but | :14:10. | :14:15. | |
those 515,000 people, there are more people in the Labour Party than all | :14:16. | :14:19. | |
other parties put together and those people like Jeremy Corbyn and you | :14:20. | :14:24. | |
have MPs and members in the totally at odds with each other. They either | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
have two reconcile themselves with the selection and the MPs are people | :14:30. | :14:32. | |
leaving the Labour Party and there's no sign they will leave the party | :14:33. | :14:36. | |
any time soon so this is when you think that a split does have to | :14:37. | :14:43. | |
happen. Let's end with a wonderful man, Lord rix says he now is. I do | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
not know if you have ever met the man. People of our generation will | :14:49. | :14:51. | |
have seen him on television many times. The Sunday Mirror has a | :14:52. | :14:59. | |
wonderful tribute, as do a number of papers. He was a great actor as you | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
and I were growing up long before Sebastien was born, and had a child | :15:05. | :15:09. | |
with Downs syndrome which could propel him into campaigning. | :15:10. | :15:18. | |
Emitting a life peer in 1992. My wife who was appointed a Labour peer | :15:19. | :15:22. | |
worked very closely with him. He was an extraordinary and effective | :15:23. | :15:29. | |
advocate in Parliament for disabled people, now the House of Lords is a | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
monstrosity democratically, people should be elected, but if you have a | :15:35. | :15:38. | |
truly elected House of Lords and you will not get people like Brian rix | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
going there. I am not saying there is an easy solution. But perhaps we | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
should remember in our tribute to Brian rix that the House of Lords in | :15:48. | :15:52. | |
its ludicrous way does allow people like him to play an important and | :15:53. | :15:56. | |
positive role in our national life, which equally dead. He changed his | :15:57. | :16:01. | |
views on his own experience, which he was open about. -- which he | :16:02. | :16:07. | |
equally dead. He was against assisted dying until the last few | :16:08. | :16:13. | |
months when he faced his own terminal illness and he wrote to the | :16:14. | :16:15. | |
Lord Speaker and said I have changed my mind. A figure perhaps not well | :16:16. | :16:21. | |
known to younger generations. Now but it is a very heartening story to | :16:22. | :16:25. | |
hear about the campaigning and it is great to realise that Peter is right | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
that having that strange mechanism in the British process the people | :16:31. | :16:32. | |
who are passionate and have good views and can make a real difference | :16:33. | :16:39. | |
is the House of Lords at its best. We should welcome that. It is great | :16:40. | :16:43. | |
to see this tribute and find out about someone from an older | :16:44. | :16:44. | |
generation who has had a big impact. Just a reminder we take a look | :16:45. | :16:47. | |
at tomorrows front pages every Good morning. I hope you're having a | :16:48. | :17:12. | |
pleasant Sunday morning. | :17:13. | :17:14. |