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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are the broadcaster and barrister Sophia Cannon

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and the Deputy Editor of the Daily Express Michael Booker.

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Welcome to you both, let's have a look at the front pages tomorrow...

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The Times claims insurance companies are charging motorists over

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the odds for cover - despite a government crackdown

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on fake claims that has saved the industry half a billion pounds.

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The plans for restructuring parts of the NHS - hospital closures,

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cuts to services and helping patients to treat themselves -

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The Mirror carries the story of a British woman who it says

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is risking her life to rescue women and girls being held as sex slaves

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The Telegraph says Theresa May will invoke Article 50 -

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triggering the start of the UK's exit from the European Union -

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without getting consent from a vote in Parliament.

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An early Brexit is also on the cards according to the Express,

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which reports that plans to repeal the European Communities Act have

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already been drawn up and are "on the table".

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The Guardian leads on claims that universities are hiding the scale

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of sexual harassment on campus by using non-disclosure agreements

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While the FT says billionaire businessman and former BHS boss

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Sir Philip Green may pay less than half the money needed to plug

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the gap in the defunct high street chain's pensions scheme.

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Let's begin with that story, it is quite a momentous weekend. BHS is to

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close its doors for the last time. And, the Financial Times have a

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story there about plans to close quite a yawning deficit in pensions?

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It is massive, ?700 million. Equally, we have to look and see how

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it got there. Sir Philip Green sold the company for ?1. Basically, where

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is the money? 350 billion, sorry, 350 million, that is what he will

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put into the pot. He has spoken to regulators and

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trustees and they seem to like it. He has said he will sort it, he's

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gone quiet for a while, some papers will say, what is going on? They

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will target his wife who technically holds the purse strings, they are

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currently away on a yacht, understandably people have been

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getting to them, 20,000 people have their pensions at stake. Reading

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into this, there is an offer, Frank Field, the head of the work and

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pensions committee, says Sir Philip should hand over the money. They

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need to get it sorted quickly. The pension regulator wants it sorted as

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quickly as possible. If they hold out for 700 million, that will never

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happen. They will try to do the best deal they can, and save the face of

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the pensions regulator as well. He says he is going to sorted, we will

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wait and see whether he can come up with the cash. Within it, there

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seems to be sources saying that the offer is there, it is tentative at

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the moment. But, there could be joy for these people and their pensions

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will be saved. To a certain extent. There is a line that some pension

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experts have been consulted and they argue Sir Philip obviously inherited

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the company in the year 2000, and these debts predated his

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acquisition? That was my understanding but the Arcadia group,

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I believe, it was Topshop, Evans, and BHS was the jewel in the Crown,

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everybody loved it, people love to shop there.

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When it was sold, it had a huge deficit. People turned around and

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said, this is capitalism but carnivorous capitalism. It's not the

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whole idea that we see as being British. It is British home stores

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that has failed and it means a lot to a lot of people. This weekend is

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the weekend where it disappears from the high streets. People losing

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their jobs... Does ?350 million do anything to heal his reputation?

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He's been battered, he got a big duffing up in the work and pensions

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committee. There is talk of him going back and his wife being

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summoned there, I think the deal has to be done to save his reputation.

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He says he will sorted but we will wait and see. I want to live in

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society where 20,000 people, not only they have lost their jobs but

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their futures. It means a lot. The government has to step up or there

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will be others. Let's talk about the NHS, a story that has been with us

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throughout the course of the day. The i newspaper's FrontPage, they

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say "Patient, heal thyself", patients being coached over the

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phone and via computers as to how to treat themselves. All of the cuts

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that come with it, etc. Do we have two face up to the fact that we are

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an ageing population, growing as a population, and we cannot have the

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NHS we want unless we put more into it? Well, politicians don't want to

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say that we are going to get rid of the NHS, no politician would say

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that, otherwise they end up out of office quickly but these stories

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come up more often, you will see that there will be huge changes to

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the NHS and how it is funded. The access that we get to it, we will

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pay more for various things and services, you can see this. It

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sounds nuts, virtual appointments? Coached over the phone? Readers of

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the Daily Express, an older reader, in their 50s and 60s and 70s, they

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have paid in all their life and deserve that free treatment, when

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they want it and when they need it. Most people are not bed blockers,

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most people go only when they are ill, and if they can't get in when

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they are ill, if they are put off with virtual appointments and things

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like that, thinking of older people who rely on the NHS, a lot of them

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do not have the Internet and cannot do these things over Skype. It's all

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well and good saying this but it affects real people. It will get

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worse. If a doctor is telling you what to do over the Internet... Is

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it fair enough? Things are changing. The NHS has never been put down,

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it's about it you need it, it's there for you. The whole idea is

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that it is not even the national health service any more. It is not

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national, we have NHS England and NHS Scotland's run by different

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governments, it is not healthy. It is not about keeping well, it is

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prevention. I was going to say it is fair enough having a debate about

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how you spend money within the NHS and how you prevent some of the

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things people go to hospital for? Yes, it is the idea that people in

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each decade of their lives will need the NHS at different times, and how

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we approach it and educate people, how they make sure people do not

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misuse the NHS. It is a political football, it does not need a

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cross-party debate, take it out of the political time of war, face up

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to how we will fund it. I think every government has this problem.

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They get to this point every time but the ball is kicked down the road

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more. People don't want to know that they had to start paying for it. You

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cannot turn up and get the service when you wanted, that is what these

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stories Telus, these are being chipped away at. In a of

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generations, people will pay more for this -- in a couple of

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generations. You will be pretty angry about this, we pay through the

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nose for car insurance. They have cut down on fraud but are still

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charging the same amount of money? Yes, Chris Grayling, in 2013,

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brought him amazing reforms saying that we are the whiplash capital of

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Europe. Unbelievably, their necks of Britain are more delicate than the

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necks of Europe. There is the idea that many claims

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were fraudulent and un-meritorious. What we decided to do was lift the

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bonnet on how car insurance works. They brought down the costs, ?500

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million have been saved but, guess what? It's been passed on through

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the premium to the man and woman on the street. They are not just

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driving Miss Daisy, they are driving us all mad. We need this money back.

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It is chipping away at everybody's idea of what is fair, just and

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reasonable. They saved ?500 million and motor insurance prices have

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risen in the last 12 months? There is a call from the vice president of

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Association of Personal Injury Lawyers, their first duty is to

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shareholders. That is capitalism. This headline is the most

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unsurprising I've ever seen. Most people think that we are going to

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get ripped off, we are being ripped off. We get ripped off in every

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aspect of our lives, by various businesses. But insurers have never

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had the greatest reputation... Can't the government insist that they pass

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it on? The chairwoman of the Commons transport committee say that it was

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promised and it has not happened. Currently, she says, what will you

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do about it? They say, nothing. By law, everybody has to have car

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insurance if they drive. You cannot choose to have a car and not have it

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insured. There must be a select committee for that! Let's move on to

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your paper, the Daily Express. The world's greatest. There is a new

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move for instant EU exit. This is something put on the table by John

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Redwood, incredibly Eurosceptic as we know. He is saying that a lot of

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Tory MPs are more vocal about this because since the vote, it's gone a

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bit quiet. We have not jumped out of the EU straightaway. People are

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getting a bit and see -- uncomfortable and wondering what is

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happening. This would be the repeal of the 19th into two communities

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act, and instantly we would get out and say, OK, if you want tariffs on

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us, puts tariffs on us otherwise we will put them on you. As far as

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trade goes, they have two and pick everything else but there is a move

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now... I love how they glossed over it... It is fiendish. Luckily it is

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not me doing it! Human rights! Whether that happens or not, we are

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told article 50 will be triggered in the New Year by Theresa May's

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government but you can see there are those people in the Tory party who

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are still grumbling, why aren't we out the use yet? A majority of the

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house campaigned to remain. Unfortunately, the majority of the

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country wanted to get out. They campaigned in opposition to their

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constituents. The Daily Telegraph says that Theresa May will approve

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or go for article 50, this former way of getting out of the EU without

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a parliamentary vote. It was muted by remainders, many MPs said, we

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need a parliamentary vote. The referendum is an advisory from the

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people, we now need MPs to vote on it. The Labour leadership candidate

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Owen Smith went further on BBC breakfast this week, he said if he

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had to campaign for an early general election he would campaign on

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opposing Article 50 even before negotiations. Yet, 70 million people

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voted for it -- 17 million. People were upset, I would not reveal that

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now, but people, we should look at this closely. Many MPs believe that

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they were voted into vote for the best interests of the country. It is

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party before country. These votes come once in a lifetime and it is

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their duty to take it to the floor of the house. Is it an executive

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decision by Theresa May or a decision made by Parliament? You say

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they were elected to do the best for their constituents but they also

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agreed there should be a referendum in the first place, but not legally

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binding. It was never said at the time, was it? 70 million people with

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pitchforks will be banning -- banging down the doors of Number

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ten if it does not happen. This was small print, what does it mean, what

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were people voting for? I did not see small print when I went to vote

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on the referendum. Two big boxes, I had to take one! -- Tech one. We

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aren't out the EU yet. That's the big debate. In The Guardian

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newspaper, do we have any sympathy regarding the Burkini ban in France,

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and our French friends, and the public attitude? Towards women?

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Towards the Burkini. It is towards women's dress. Throughout history,

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how women dress signal so much about culture, and history. It signals so

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much about the laws and rights of women in that country. It's the

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whole idea that you can tell a woman watched where -- what to wear, I've

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never come across an issue where a woman is wearing too much. That's

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the whole idea. As feminists, I am one, we have campaigned to wear what

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we want when we choose. We live in a permissive society.

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Unless it is offensive, you can wear it. If you are saying a woman who is

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over covered up on the beach is offensive, we have lost a lot of

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arguments. Do we understand the French enough though? With this as

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well, I think we all understand the fear in France at the moment, about

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what has happened in the last couple of years. Look what happened in Nice

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and Paris, they are looking at Muslim people, and think there is a

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threat, you can see why they are looking at anything they possibly

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can to say look, we are trying to sort this out, the perceived threat

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they have. You can see why some of the mayors are scared, it is

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entirely wrong... Some are saying they will ignore red? Yes, -- ignore

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it. Public attitudes are on their side? But that is fear. It is.

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People had to look into history. It has echoes of history. I remember

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when I read my history books that the Jewish population were singled

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out for the way they dress and what they wore on their heads. That's the

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whole idea, that dress signifies something else. We have to draw back

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from that. If we go down this route, we have

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America looking at Europe. We were seen as a permissive

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society. Some women have their breasts on the beach in Europe. A

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final word, -- bare breasts. We have the front National waiting

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in the wings, this is going to come back again. It certainly will, I

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think it will. I am putting a marker down, I think it will come here in

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the next two or three years. This is an interesting story in The Times.

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Theresa May has demanded an audit of public sector data to see how races

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affected in the state -- race is affected in the state.

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I am a barrister of 15 years. How many black judges did you appear

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before? One. One black judge? I can name them. Do we need an audit, we

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know it already, don't we? The whole issue is doing an audit and it needs

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to be there. We need to know why more black and minority ethnic

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people are getting degrees but are less likely to be employed. Where is

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the merit? It is affecting the economy. You will have the audit and

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then the courts, the civil service and BBC will all be held to account?

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Journalism. According to this, once analysed the information will be

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available for people to foster public pressure for reform. You

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don't have enough black, you would be ashamed to say that? How many

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black journalists are in Parliament? Zero, it cannot continue.

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You have a black mayor and you do not have one journalist who holds a

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Parliament repast. You have to look at what is happening in this

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country. We have merit. It is a meritocracy, that is what made

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Britain strong. It will make Britain strong in the future. We have a new

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society where we have technology, we need maths and science, the

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undergraduates are there. Look at the NHS, you would think they would

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soak up so many bright graduates, the doctors and physicians.

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The chemists, they go into that area. Also, she is looking at white

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working class... They are not getting anywhere either, they are

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being left behind. Again, I went to... I was the only black child in

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my school, that sits with me, people contact me on Facebook saying, we

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went down the pits and were told they were jobs for life.

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Look at where we are now. She is trying to make the country work for

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everyone. Did it work. And such? Yes, it shone a light in our darkest

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places. Nobody wants to be called racist, or a bigot. Nobody wants to

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know he -- the society embedded in them is

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the one they live them. There will be a Royal commission on

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how we make society equal. We have mixed race children, Lewis Hamilton,

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Leona Lewis, look at the British Olympic team.

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I don't want to be cynical... Then don't be. They will make it

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available online to foster public pressure, but where does it come

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from? Surely, the MPs? We are running out of time, let's focus on

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the front of the Daily Mirror. Is Richard Branson to world to be -- to

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old to be careering down a road on the Virgin Islands on a bike... He

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hates publicity obviously does Richard Branson! There he was, he

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thought he would die, you saw his life flash before him... He's had

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adventures all over the world, this is the first time I've heard him say

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he thought he would die. He has fallen out of the sky... Maybe he

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has Jeremy Corbyn's hex on him! What I particularly like is that he is on

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this bed... With a beer by a well known brewer, and an intravenous

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something in his arm. He had to fly to Miami for more treatment. If you

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have a private island, you would think you would have a hospital in

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there. And the twist? It happened on the British Virgin Islands and it

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was not named by him! We are out of time.

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Thank you to both of you for your company this evening. Don't forget,

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all of the front pages are online on the BBC News website, read a

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detailed review of all of The Papers, that's there for you seven

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days a week on the website. And you can see us there as well. Thank you

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to both of you, goodbye for now. Good evening, it's a fine and one

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day across most parts of the country, the bank holiday weekend is

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now upon us as the weather shapes up to be mixed. This is how

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