18/09/2016 The Papers


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to the latest exit polls. Paralympics GB bid farewell to Rio

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in the closing ceremony tonight with 64 gold medals.

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So, there we are, let's have a look at what is in the papers tomorrow

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morning. With me to discuss the front papers Rosalind Irwin and Neil

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Midgeley. Thank you both for coming in. Let's run you through the

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front-pages as we have them so far and the Times report on those

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attacks in the United States over the weekend. Theresa May, who is due

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to fly to New York for the UN assembly, will urge other countries

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to step up their Counter-Terrorism efforts.

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The Financial Times leads with the attack in New York. The newspaper

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quotes the City's Mayor who said that "New Yorkers will not be

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intimidated". The same story in the Met row. The paper also reports a

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warning from the NSPCC about the rising number of paedophiles

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contacting children online -- the Met row. The children's charity says

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webcams and apps make minors more vulnerable -- Metro. We have The

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Telegraph reporting David Cameron wanted to shut down criminal

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investigations into the alleged abuse of Iraqis but was overruled by

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Government lawyers. Let's start off then Neil, with The Times, like

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quite a few of the papers featuring the various attacks in America quite

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prominently? Yes. New York is the latest city to suffer its wave of

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attacks. Isis has claimed responsibility for

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the stabbings. This is less than a week after the

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anniversary of 9/11 and New York is a city massively scarred by

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terrorism, probably more than any other. Roz Monday, a lot of world

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leaders are coming with the UN General Assembly next week --

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Rosamond. Yes, Theresa May will be going

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there, as will the other leaders. There is a question of what this

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means for the US presidential election. There is a line here that

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actually says YouGov polling shows that Donald Trump actually is ahead

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of Hillary Clinton marginal nationally, when voters were asked

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who would be best to keep the US safe from terrorism. We have had a

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lot of rhetoric on that from him. All of these very difficult things

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in America, including the perceived racism of the police in many

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American cities and the Black Lives Matter campaign, Donald Trump is

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very good at saying it will all be fixed, trust me, the first day I'm

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in office, similar rhetoric, as you say on terrorism but no detail of

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how he'll achieve that. At the moment, the authorities don't seem

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clear on who was behind this explosion, whether it's

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international terrorism or whether it's domestic terrorism. America

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suffered both in recent years, hasn't it? Yes, they think it wasn't

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probably in the case of international terrorism at the

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moment but we are yet to know much more. It's also prominent in the FT

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as well. At the top there, they have New York blasts explosions rock city

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as world leaders gather for security talks, to Neil again, focussing in.

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But we don't know if there's any connection with the UN General

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Assembly. No. It could be a coincidence of timing. My guess is

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that the presence of the UN and its diplomats generally to the business

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of New York as a city, doesn't tend to impact greatly on New Yorkers,

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it's not something that's in their consciousness, apart from the

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motorcade. They have said they are stepping up security for this

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conference predictably. Deploying an extra 1,000 officers. Yes. I suppose

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you could say 29 injured which is terrible, but it could have been so

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much worse actually? No fatalities? Yes. And they are all out of

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hospital. Minor injuries. Yes. Obviously America suffers a lot of

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mass shootings, particularly in schools and colleges, so this, as

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you say, slightly invidious to compare severity of attacks of this

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nature, but nobody lost their life. The Met row's front-page which says

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terror blast rocks the Big Apple, well I suppose it did metaphorically

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-- Metro. Yes, indeed. People will be looking to France and thinking,

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when does the next one drop, you know, once there is one attack, as

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the French have seen in Paris and then in Nice, there can be more and

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copy cats and you don't know what their motivations are. Domestic

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terror, foreign terror, America suffered them both. Or just pad

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people. -- bad people. Yes. The Guardian, Neil, another story about

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the Labour Parties, internal wranglings, rebel MPs face the axe,

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warns Corbyn allies. Len McCluskey speaking to Panorama on BBC One

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tomorrow night, a plug for that! Thank you very much, we have been

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plugging it all evening but we welcome another one from you! Yes,

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saying that Labour MPs could face deselection if Jeremy Corbyn A wins

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the leadership again and B they've been disloyal to him. I mean, you

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could not get further in political sympathy. As far as you can get,

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political sympathy from the Labour Party in all of its stripes, but we

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need a strong opposition, we need a strong united opposition to hold the

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Government to account and to make our democracy function properly.

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This kind of intervention just is not helpful. One of the lines here

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is, they are saying some of these MPs behave sod disgracefully showing

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no respect for Jeremy Corbyn as a leader obviously voting against him

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and you think, how many times did he vote against his leaders. How

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disgracefully have these MPs been behaved against. Many of these

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so-called rebel MPs against Jeremy Corbyn have suffered up to and

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inClauding death threats and other kinds of social media abuse, verbal

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abuse, threats. They appear to come from the very far left. But the

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Corbyn side would say he's still remarkably popular amongst Labour

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Party members? Yes. One of the MPs that there was a story about today,

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being amongst those sort of that they want to axe, was Peter Kyle and

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I find it very frustrating, as somebody who is a Labour supporter,

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because he was one of the few Labour MPs who actually beat a Tory sitting

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MP. There is a very small band of them in 2015. The fact that, because

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he's a moderate obviously, that he's sort of up for the chop, as it were,

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it's very frustrating because you would think that was somebody who

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clearly can appeal to a wider audience. This kind of intervention

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makes it more likely that the Labour Party will split, you know, if you

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are deselected as an official Labour candidate as a sitting MP you are

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much more likely obviously to bind together all of you and form the

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modern day equivalent of the SDP. Lord Kinnock on is Panorama tomorrow

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saying he doesn't think there'll be another Labour Government in his

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lifetime. As a Labour supporter, I'm not talking about your lifetime,

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which is, let's hope, many decades to come, but I mean do you think

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Lord Kinnock is being real listic when he says that? He says he won't

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go necessarily if he loses the next general election and there is a

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question of what Jeremy Corbyn wants to actually achieve. You know,

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there's plenty of speculation about that, it's about creating this body

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of exceedingly left-wing mens who've become a bigger force in politics

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which obviously this would seem to lend itself to. Do you think the

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party will split? I think the shadow of what happened before when they

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split is looming very largement. You talk to Labour MPs, they are scared

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about that and say the thing is that you are punished at the next

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election of being the people who break away and from then on it's not

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an easy thing to split. The problem is, obviously, that the membership

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isn't representative remotely of Parliamentary Labour Party. Or the

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country. Absolutely. Or even of Labour supporters. But that, as a

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problem, there is no obvious solution to that. The Independent

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have a very striking headline, the Youngest child refugee to die in the

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quest to reach the UK, a 14-year-old Afghan boy they say with a legal

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right to enter Britain was hit by a truck as he tried to cross over?

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Yes. He says he was waiting in Calais, so I assume that's the

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jungle camp, and he got so tired of waiting that he went off to try and

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get into Britain by himself and was hit by a truck on a French motorway.

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I mean, what a short brutal, sad tragic life he led. Yes. I've got a

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statistic here that they estimate the number of unaccompanied minors

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in the refugee camp, being over 1,000. That is just shocking. Our

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policy incidentally is to send people who are in this country when

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they reach adulthood back to Afghanistan. There's been a lot of

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people who've turned 18, ground up here mostly and spent much of their

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childhood here and that's the Government's policy.

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Let's go back to the Telegraph and back to the Labour Leadership

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briefly. They have a picture of Jeremy Corbyn obviously it's a

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knockout, they say, the leadership. He's been knocking himself out, not

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sure whether that's... Punching himself in the head. Not sure

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whether that's what will happen in the contest because most pundits

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think he'll win comfortably. He's more lakely to be giving the

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punches. He's visited a boxing club that trains homeless people in North

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London. No doubt the constituency advantage is where he seems to

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retreat to. He wasn't pulling his punches says The Telegraph. One of

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your types of puns there. Are the gloves off? ! Yes, made for the

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headline writers. More seriously, The Telegraph have an interesting

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story about how the Attorney General says, vetoed an attempt to stop an

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investigation into the abuse of Iraqis by British troops. What do

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you make of that? This story's been bobbling along for a while. We the

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UK set up a Task Force called ihaf to investigate alleged abuse of

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Iraqis by British soldiers when we were in the country -- ihat. We did

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that so we wouldn't be investigated by the International Criminal Court

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for war crimes and now, there are three soldiers in particular, as The

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Sunday Telegraph reported today, facing criminal proceedings for

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alleged abuse of an Iraqi. They were cleared by military hearing ten

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years ago and many, if not all of the allegations against the British

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forces came from public interest lawyers which you will recall is a

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law firm which closed down, had its legal aid reformed in -- removed in

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the summer when it was shin that there were alleged irregularities.

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I'll leave the lawyers to work out what that means, but that was over

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the work in Iraq. David Cameron wanted to close down the new

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investigations into the soldiers but the Attorney General told him he

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couldn't, it was illegal, and Johnny Mercer, the chair of the Defence

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Select Committee also a Tory, also up in arms about this, that nobody

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seems at this point to know what the actual point of ihat is, it's all

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sort of gone away. OK. On a slightly lighter note or very much lighter

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note, The Express, always there to cheer us up, and a nice picture of

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the stars of ITV hit show Victoria. They are apparently in a real life

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romance to match the on-screen romance? Yes, rumours that they have

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found love on set. Are you a fan of the show? I'm afraid I haven't been

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watching it. I have. I was a big fan of hers, she was fantastic in Doctor

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Who. I can't work out who is prettier, they are at an awards

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show. There's been a lot of viewers saying she's rather prettier than

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Queen Victoria. She is. Interesting that the news of their supposed

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relationship came out this morning just before episode five of eight.

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It's dog very well in the ratings. It's beating Poldark narrowly. The

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conSol Tated ratings come in, which means how many people watched it

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over the week. Then the margin gets larger. What do you think of the

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shows, both hugely popular, being up against each other, does that matter

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any more in the days when everybody records everything? John

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Whittingdale would say it does and the BBC shouldn't be scheduling the

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same dramas. Maybe they should make different dramas at different

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stages. There are 168 hours in week, you would think the BBC and ITV

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could find two different ones. That Sunday night 9 o'clock slot is very

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sought after. We have two good quality dramas, one with an

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historical element, learning something. One with his chest! Maybe

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the BBC should be saying the Poldark stars are in a relationship as well.

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I think they are both already spoken for.

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Maybe. Thank you both, Rosamond and Neil. We'll be back at 11. 30 for

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