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to the latest exit polls. Paralympics GB bid farewell to Rio


in the closing ceremony tonight with 64 gold medals.


So, there we are, let's have a look at what is in the papers tomorrow


morning. With me to discuss the front papers Rosalind Irwin and Neil


Midgeley. Thank you both for coming in. Let's run you through the


front-pages as we have them so far and the Times report on those


attacks in the United States over the weekend. Theresa May, who is due


to fly to New York for the UN assembly, will urge other countries


to step up their Counter-Terrorism efforts.


The Financial Times leads with the attack in New York. The newspaper


quotes the City's Mayor who said that "New Yorkers will not be


intimidated". The same story in the Met row. The paper also reports a


warning from the NSPCC about the rising number of paedophiles


contacting children online -- the Met row. The children's charity says


webcams and apps make minors more vulnerable -- Metro. We have The


Telegraph reporting David Cameron wanted to shut down criminal


investigations into the alleged abuse of Iraqis but was overruled by


Government lawyers. Let's start off then Neil, with The Times, like


quite a few of the papers featuring the various attacks in America quite


prominently? Yes. New York is the latest city to suffer its wave of


attacks. Isis has claimed responsibility for


the stabbings. This is less than a week after the


anniversary of 9/11 and New York is a city massively scarred by


terrorism, probably more than any other. Roz Monday, a lot of world


leaders are coming with the UN General Assembly next week --


Rosamond. Yes, Theresa May will be going


there, as will the other leaders. There is a question of what this


means for the US presidential election. There is a line here that


actually says YouGov polling shows that Donald Trump actually is ahead


of Hillary Clinton marginal nationally, when voters were asked


who would be best to keep the US safe from terrorism. We have had a


lot of rhetoric on that from him. All of these very difficult things


in America, including the perceived racism of the police in many


American cities and the Black Lives Matter campaign, Donald Trump is


very good at saying it will all be fixed, trust me, the first day I'm


in office, similar rhetoric, as you say on terrorism but no detail of


how he'll achieve that. At the moment, the authorities don't seem


clear on who was behind this explosion, whether it's


international terrorism or whether it's domestic terrorism. America


suffered both in recent years, hasn't it? Yes, they think it wasn't


probably in the case of international terrorism at the


moment but we are yet to know much more. It's also prominent in the FT


as well. At the top there, they have New York blasts explosions rock city


as world leaders gather for security talks, to Neil again, focussing in.


But we don't know if there's any connection with the UN General


Assembly. No. It could be a coincidence of timing. My guess is


that the presence of the UN and its diplomats generally to the business


of New York as a city, doesn't tend to impact greatly on New Yorkers,


it's not something that's in their consciousness, apart from the


motorcade. They have said they are stepping up security for this


conference predictably. Deploying an extra 1,000 officers. Yes. I suppose


you could say 29 injured which is terrible, but it could have been so


much worse actually? No fatalities? Yes. And they are all out of


hospital. Minor injuries. Yes. Obviously America suffers a lot of


mass shootings, particularly in schools and colleges, so this, as


you say, slightly invidious to compare severity of attacks of this


nature, but nobody lost their life. The Met row's front-page which says


terror blast rocks the Big Apple, well I suppose it did metaphorically


-- Metro. Yes, indeed. People will be looking to France and thinking,


when does the next one drop, you know, once there is one attack, as


the French have seen in Paris and then in Nice, there can be more and


copy cats and you don't know what their motivations are. Domestic


terror, foreign terror, America suffered them both. Or just pad


people. -- bad people. Yes. The Guardian, Neil, another story about


the Labour Parties, internal wranglings, rebel MPs face the axe,


warns Corbyn allies. Len McCluskey speaking to Panorama on BBC One


tomorrow night, a plug for that! Thank you very much, we have been


plugging it all evening but we welcome another one from you! Yes,


saying that Labour MPs could face deselection if Jeremy Corbyn A wins


the leadership again and B they've been disloyal to him. I mean, you


could not get further in political sympathy. As far as you can get,


political sympathy from the Labour Party in all of its stripes, but we


need a strong opposition, we need a strong united opposition to hold the


Government to account and to make our democracy function properly.


This kind of intervention just is not helpful. One of the lines here


is, they are saying some of these MPs behave sod disgracefully showing


no respect for Jeremy Corbyn as a leader obviously voting against him


and you think, how many times did he vote against his leaders. How


disgracefully have these MPs been behaved against. Many of these


so-called rebel MPs against Jeremy Corbyn have suffered up to and


inClauding death threats and other kinds of social media abuse, verbal


abuse, threats. They appear to come from the very far left. But the


Corbyn side would say he's still remarkably popular amongst Labour


Party members? Yes. One of the MPs that there was a story about today,


being amongst those sort of that they want to axe, was Peter Kyle and


I find it very frustrating, as somebody who is a Labour supporter,


because he was one of the few Labour MPs who actually beat a Tory sitting


MP. There is a very small band of them in 2015. The fact that, because


he's a moderate obviously, that he's sort of up for the chop, as it were,


it's very frustrating because you would think that was somebody who


clearly can appeal to a wider audience. This kind of intervention


makes it more likely that the Labour Party will split, you know, if you


are deselected as an official Labour candidate as a sitting MP you are


much more likely obviously to bind together all of you and form the


modern day equivalent of the SDP. Lord Kinnock on is Panorama tomorrow


saying he doesn't think there'll be another Labour Government in his


lifetime. As a Labour supporter, I'm not talking about your lifetime,


which is, let's hope, many decades to come, but I mean do you think


Lord Kinnock is being real listic when he says that? He says he won't


go necessarily if he loses the next general election and there is a


question of what Jeremy Corbyn wants to actually achieve. You know,


there's plenty of speculation about that, it's about creating this body


of exceedingly left-wing mens who've become a bigger force in politics


which obviously this would seem to lend itself to. Do you think the


party will split? I think the shadow of what happened before when they


split is looming very largement. You talk to Labour MPs, they are scared


about that and say the thing is that you are punished at the next


election of being the people who break away and from then on it's not


an easy thing to split. The problem is, obviously, that the membership


isn't representative remotely of Parliamentary Labour Party. Or the


country. Absolutely. Or even of Labour supporters. But that, as a


problem, there is no obvious solution to that. The Independent


have a very striking headline, the Youngest child refugee to die in the


quest to reach the UK, a 14-year-old Afghan boy they say with a legal


right to enter Britain was hit by a truck as he tried to cross over?


Yes. He says he was waiting in Calais, so I assume that's the


jungle camp, and he got so tired of waiting that he went off to try and


get into Britain by himself and was hit by a truck on a French motorway.


I mean, what a short brutal, sad tragic life he led. Yes. I've got a


statistic here that they estimate the number of unaccompanied minors


in the refugee camp, being over 1,000. That is just shocking. Our


policy incidentally is to send people who are in this country when


they reach adulthood back to Afghanistan. There's been a lot of


people who've turned 18, ground up here mostly and spent much of their


childhood here and that's the Government's policy.


Let's go back to the Telegraph and back to the Labour Leadership


briefly. They have a picture of Jeremy Corbyn obviously it's a


knockout, they say, the leadership. He's been knocking himself out, not


sure whether that's... Punching himself in the head. Not sure


whether that's what will happen in the contest because most pundits


think he'll win comfortably. He's more lakely to be giving the


punches. He's visited a boxing club that trains homeless people in North


London. No doubt the constituency advantage is where he seems to


retreat to. He wasn't pulling his punches says The Telegraph. One of


your types of puns there. Are the gloves off? ! Yes, made for the


headline writers. More seriously, The Telegraph have an interesting


story about how the Attorney General says, vetoed an attempt to stop an


investigation into the abuse of Iraqis by British troops. What do


you make of that? This story's been bobbling along for a while. We the


UK set up a Task Force called ihaf to investigate alleged abuse of


Iraqis by British soldiers when we were in the country -- ihat. We did


that so we wouldn't be investigated by the International Criminal Court


for war crimes and now, there are three soldiers in particular, as The


Sunday Telegraph reported today, facing criminal proceedings for


alleged abuse of an Iraqi. They were cleared by military hearing ten


years ago and many, if not all of the allegations against the British


forces came from public interest lawyers which you will recall is a


law firm which closed down, had its legal aid reformed in -- removed in


the summer when it was shin that there were alleged irregularities.


I'll leave the lawyers to work out what that means, but that was over


the work in Iraq. David Cameron wanted to close down the new


investigations into the soldiers but the Attorney General told him he


couldn't, it was illegal, and Johnny Mercer, the chair of the Defence


Select Committee also a Tory, also up in arms about this, that nobody


seems at this point to know what the actual point of ihat is, it's all


sort of gone away. OK. On a slightly lighter note or very much lighter


note, The Express, always there to cheer us up, and a nice picture of


the stars of ITV hit show Victoria. They are apparently in a real life


romance to match the on-screen romance? Yes, rumours that they have


found love on set. Are you a fan of the show? I'm afraid I haven't been


watching it. I have. I was a big fan of hers, she was fantastic in Doctor


Who. I can't work out who is prettier, they are at an awards


show. There's been a lot of viewers saying she's rather prettier than


Queen Victoria. She is. Interesting that the news of their supposed


relationship came out this morning just before episode five of eight.


It's dog very well in the ratings. It's beating Poldark narrowly. The


conSol Tated ratings come in, which means how many people watched it


over the week. Then the margin gets larger. What do you think of the


shows, both hugely popular, being up against each other, does that matter


any more in the days when everybody records everything? John


Whittingdale would say it does and the BBC shouldn't be scheduling the


same dramas. Maybe they should make different dramas at different


stages. There are 168 hours in week, you would think the BBC and ITV


could find two different ones. That Sunday night 9 o'clock slot is very


sought after. We have two good quality dramas, one with an


historical element, learning something. One with his chest! Maybe


the BBC should be saying the Poldark stars are in a relationship as well.


I think they are both already spoken for.


Maybe. Thank you both, Rosamond and Neil. We'll be back at 11. 30 for


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