29/09/2016 The Papers

Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers

With me are the freelance journalist Samira Shackle

The Telegraph leads with the undercover filming

of Southampton Football Club's assistant manager, Eric Black,

allegedly giving bribery advice to officials.

The Mirror is also focusing on that story,

with calls for a public inquiry into football corruption.

The Metro has more on the abduction and rape of a 14-year-old girl

The Guardian is leading with the rise of mental illness

The top story in the Express the doubling of dementia cases

making it the second biggest killer after heart disease in Britain.

The Daily Mail has the Archbishop of York

accusing European countries of shunting migrants

And the Sun has details of the divorce settlement paid out by darts

player Phil Taylor. Let's begin with the football story,

it is good that you are here, David, the former chief executive of the

FA! Very good for me! Let's talk about today, it is the assistant

manager at Southampton, Eric Black, who is in the frame. What do you

make of the allegations? Tell us a little bit about them. Well, people

will judge the allegation, which basically seems to be that it is

alleged that Mr Black was trying to help this phoney phone company,

which suggested they wanted to get involved with transfer companies,

and it is suggesting that they wanted to get involved, they needed

to bung one or two people who were working perhaps lower down the food

chain in football, where a few thousand pounds might make a

difference to them. Now, Mr Black is very clear that he absolutely denies

the charges. But the general point, I think, Christian, is that it has

been, whatever you think of the allegations, a good week, probably

an award-winning week for the Daily Telegraph, with its ten months of

inquiries into the sometimes murky side of the not so beautiful game.

It has cost an England manager his job, and certainly one or two other

people their jobs. Around the world, I have to tell you, there is some

relish that the English, who are reputation for being bit holier than

now, certainly within Fifa, have got their comeuppance. -- thou. And it

remains to be seen where this heads, but the key thing, as a number of

people are starting to say, is if what comes out of this is reform of

the football organisations, proper corporate governance, and proper

regulation of the sport, then, actually, the pain may have been

worthwhile. We will come back to that as a second. Samir, there has

been a lot said about the idea of and and, Gary Lineker saying it may

have left some bad people out of the game, but what do you think? --

entrapment. It is a really tricky area, and it so often comes up in

these big tabloid stories in relation to celebrities and so on

where there is a less clear public interest defence. It is a tricky

area, because you can justify it a lot more if it is on the basis that

you are showing corruption that is there already, rather than causing

someone to do something they wouldn't have done otherwise. One

issue with football, as someone who casually observes it, it seems to be

dizzying scandal after scandal, so it seems there is a clear course to

believe that, without the entrapment, corruption would have

been going on anyway. It is not like this is a totally isolated incident,

a steady stream of stories suggests it is not just one person who was

led astray by errant journalists. Looking at the Mirror, they are

going with Damian Collins, who is standing in as the head of the

select committee on media, culture and sport. We had him on the

programme a few days ago, and he said he had had concerns for some

time about this. I said, why are we only hearing about it now? Today he

is saying that perhaps he wants a full-blown inquiry. To be fair to Mr

Collins, he has raised these matters before, and they have swirled

around. People seem to forget that there have been inquiries into

so-called bungs by very senior former police officers et cetera in

my time, this was going on. And they, came up with nothing. So you

went back to them and said, thanks very much... I have to say, it was

not me, but it was one of the football organisations, the Premier

League had a very clear inquiry. But the basic problem is, I regret to

tell you that these committees have reported on things before, and it

actually doesn't change anything. Government say, we will get

involved, and we say, yes, we would like you to, because we have failed,

football has failed to reform itself. Then you say to government,

come and help us. We have got our own problems. Some fans would say it

is up to the FA to get their house in order. They have failed to do so

because of the structure of football, each individual

organisation has its own priorities. And reform, with the ridiculous

majorities that you have to get to get change, has proved beyond the

generations that I was part of. I wish we could talk about it more,

but we need to rattle through the stories. The Telegraph, the sex

abuse inquiry, a new line in the last hour actually, that Ben

Emmerson, the lead counsel, was suspended earlier today, he has

resigned, and Junior counsel Elizabeth Price Xhaka has also

resigned, two in 24 hours. This was supposed to get off the ground in

2014, but two proposed chairs resigned, there were various

resignations over the course of the inquiry, a question earlier this

year about links to establishment figures. It is really a pretty dire

situation. It is interesting that Theresa May stepped in after today's

news to say that there would be no scaling back of the inquiry. There

was a question, questions over the scale of it, whether that had

something to do with it. And she said it up as Home Secretary.

Absolutely, and we have survivors and victims saying they are losing

faith in the process. Survivors are presumably the people who really

matter in all of this, and regardless of what Theresa May may

feel now, and what she felt when she was setting it all up as Home

Secretary, there has to be, surely, something fundamentally wrong when

they are on their fourth chair at the moment? And now all these

lawyers are going out the door. Is there a danger that it is a poisoned

chalice? There are obviously equally eminent QCs who could do this, but

you have to commit to this for many years, it is a career decision,

isn't it? Certainly. That would appear to be the case, but are the

terms of reference, is the organisation itself currently fit

for purpose? That is what you surely must ask, and does it need some form

of reorganisation internally? You do not necessarily have to change the

terms of reference as well. It is split into 13 sections, the

internet, things about Lambeth, you name it, it goes on all sort of

different directions. So split it into different constituencies? I am

asking the question, I am not qualified to know, but there has to

be something fundamentally wrong. There are lots of stories today

about mental illness, we will pick up what we have been reporting

today, on the top of the Guardian, one in five women reported a common

mental illness, that is extraordinary, isn't it? It is, the

stats are really astonishing. One in four women aged 16 to 24 have self

harm that some point, it is really quite shocking, the numbers.

Particularly if it is due to social media, which is what they are

saying, that is a young subsection. Social media is not gender specific,

I suppose, I guess you could argue that body image pressures are more

on women, as much as they are in general society, and social media

often reflects trends that we see in larger society. But why is it a

disproportionate number of women compared to men that are suffering?

As I see this, it is still further evidence of a mental health prices

in this country that I think was first highlighted by the much

maligned former Deputy Prime Minister, Nick Clegg. Several years

ago. And the honest answer to your question is, at the moment, it seems

nobody knows why young women seem to be so much at risk, in comparison

with young men. But you know, this is the age of social media. You have

picked up on a good point, body image, my daughter is obsessed with

Snapchat, for example, she is honoured over time if I would let

her! It is all about image, it is about social media, what your

friends are doing, and it puts a lot of pressure on you. It is

interesting, the gender aspect, because it puts a lot of pressure on

young people across the board. There is a lot of pressure on young boys

as well, constantly being in touch. But I think it is quite easy to put

everything at the door of social media, but I think for the most part

it and provides trends we see in the world, and if we are talking about

body image, there always have been much greater pressures on women than

men. So perhaps we are seeing that, social media and the way we organise

our social lives, that is ample buying the pressure that is already

there and young women. -- amplifying. But I think it is

difficult to blame something on social media without also looking at

the much wider pressures on women. There is a very simple figure,

reports of self harm among 16 to 24 has doubled in men to 7.9%, trebled

in women to 19.7%. That is between 2007 and 2014. Extraordinary,

extraordinary figures. Looking at the Daily Mail, at last is the

headline, Bishop who talks sense and migrants, the Archbishop of York,

Jon Santacana, who has weighed in on the big row between the British and

French on the Jungle in Calais. -- Johnson. I am quite surprised,

because it bucks the trend, as the headline points out, the sort of

comments we have genuinely seen coming out of senior members of the

church, Justin Welby in March saying that on the one hand, you should not

condemn concerns about immigration being down to racism, but he also

compared Britain's record on immigration and the crisis

unfavourably to Germany taking 1 million refugees to our 20,000. I

think he was much more in keeping with the comments we have seen from

senior members of the Church of England in recent years, not just

this year - a call for doing our humanitarian duty, a call for

compassion and so on, so quite interesting to see Johnson Tambo

kind of echoing lots of the mainstream political rhetoric. --

John Sentamu. Basically talking about the Schengen visa system being

down to the Calais crisis, he talked about Britain being seen as a soft

touch. It might be fair enough if we were taking a lot of migrants! We

are not taking a great number from the camp. This story makes my blood

boil. We have a failure of politicians in the Middle East, in

Europe, and in, dare I say it, the land of the free in America, and

over more than two years now this problem has been here, and if this

story is what it is appears to be, I mean, one has to ask, does the

Archbishop realise the figures that you have just heard quoted at you?

The Estyn? Eastern European countries are asking for freedom of

movement, but they are perhaps as guilty as anyone. Blame shifting is

not helping, so for John Sentamu to be talking about Britain being a

soft touch, blaming other countries for the border crisis at Calais, it

is not down to any other country, and we are not in any position as a

wealthy, developed nation to point the finger at other nations, saying,

this is all because of you. It is a collective failure of policy over

decades, not just the last year. We are running out of time, restaurants

ordered to reduce the size of puddings. Coming into night, I had a

very nice treble ice cream! And here we are, the nanny state... Jeremy

Hunt has met them, he says it is no longer a treat to eat, everyone is

doing it, you need to up your game. I hope that when they do this, it

will be interesting, at the Tory party conference... Any sticky

toffee pudding?! Watch what is being eaten, yes, but when these portions

get smaller, I have to ask the Health Secretary - will they then

get cheaper? I think not! That is it for the Papers tonight, all the

front pages are online on the BBC News website, you can read AD dale

review of the papers. It is all there for you. -- a detailed review.

A very big thank you to both of you, thank you for being with us this

evening. Goodbye. The wind continues to ease across

Scotland after what has been a very, very windy day, gales and a number

of areas, and the winds will still remain fairly strong through the

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