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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are Tony Evans, sports columnist for

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the London Evening Standard, and Caroline Wheeler, political

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Welcome! We have a lot to get through. You will earn your keep

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tonight! The Sunday Telegraph leads

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on disquiet among military chiefs at a secret criminal investigation

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into British troops accused of mistreating two Iraqis,

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themselves believed to be responsible for murdering two

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British soldiers 13 years ago. The Sunday Times publishes

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a hitherto unseen article written by Boris Johnson on why the UK

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should remain in the EU. The paper says it was written

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two days before the now Foreign Secretary came out

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in favour of Brexit. The Observer splashes on criticism

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of the Prime Minister's so-called obsession with grammars

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by the head Ofsted. The Express warns that thousands

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of chemists will close if spending cuts due to be announced this

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week go ahead. The Mail on Sunday gives its front

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page over to the SAS soldier who's facing murder charges

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after admitting shooting dead two or three fatally

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wounded Iraqis in combat. A very mixed bag of stories. Let's

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start with The Sunday Times. Boris Johnson - my case the Britain to

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stay in Europe. When did he write this, Caroline? How has it come to

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light? This was after the shock that he was going to campaign for Brexit,

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and we've known about the existence of this art -- of this article for

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some time but it is the first time we've seen the detail and the entire

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article is on page eight. It is contained in a new book All-out War,

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and we've heard many of his books. In this article Boris Johnson

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predicts that Brexit could lead to an economic shock, Scottish

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independence and Russian aggression, which, funnily enough, are all

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things we've seen happen, but one of the very interesting things we've

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seen happen in this story is that he he's always been seen something of a

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Remainder anyway, but this seeks to dispel that by suggesting this

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article published today was just dashed off and he wasn't very

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convinced by the arguments he wrote in the article, and that's what

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convinced him he would back Brexit. He was using the piece to clarify

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his mind. Don't we all do that! You know what your own minders. It's

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been very gentle with Boris, this piece. It is saying he looked at the

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arguments and saw they were less strong than the ones to leave. The

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answer is, he's written them both, so which way the wind has blown and

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jumped for the one that suits them. School standards will be hit for

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most and The Observer said we should be focusing on the skills we need

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post Brexit. Most people are against grammars and cannot understand the

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obsession Theresa May has with them but on the other hand you have the

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Tory Party saying they are going to concentrate on schools to take

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Britain forward. I think this is another model where they haven't

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thought it through properly. The Conservatives would say, it is not

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grammar schools and nothing else. There will be a variety? Yes, I was

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into being Justine Greening ten days ago and is very question was raised.

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What about those children who aren't going to get into a grammar school?

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She was very clear that she did want to have a major focus on vocational

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education, clearly with the idea in mind that we need to build up our

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home-grown skills post Brexit, and she was very clear about that, but

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also being clear about the idea that they need to focus on working-class

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boys and the 11-year-olds, which is where it all starts, and making sure

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education at primary level is right as well. Let's look at your front

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page, Caroline. Prescription disaster. The end of the late-night

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chemists. Why? Well, the government is looking to cut pharmacies, which

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could mean 3000 chemists closing. We are expecting an announcement early

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next week and there's been a furious backlash against it, the suggestion

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being that those extra services pharmacies provide, the extended

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hours, the delivering of prescriptions to your home, will be

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truncated because they won't be able to do it. And even today there has

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been a petition launched and in one day it has attracted almost 70,000

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signatures in just a few days of imposing these cuts. It's an insult

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on the health service at every level. They are making cuts wherever

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they can and I suspect it is more ideological than what is good for

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people. But if something has to go, would people rather travel a bit to

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their pharmacy than -- and keep their A open? It is the level of

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cuts. It is not even peanuts, it is the sort of the Peanuts! It is

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nothing. There is enough money in this country to keep the health

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service in a good condition and it is ideological. The Sunday

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Telegraph. A couple of stories about troops facing charges. This is an

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investigation which seems to have gone on in secret, it says. A

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criminal investigation into the treatment of Iraqi men at the hands

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of British troops. Those men were taken in and detained because they

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had been involved in the deaths of two British soldiers. Yes. Because

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we suspect these Iraqis of being involved in the deaths of British

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soldiers, you can treat them anywhere you like. That's the

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implication. If you get them, prosecute them, find a way of

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dealing with them. They need to be investigated if found guilty of

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maltreatment. We need to have certain standards in the British

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Army and you can't just say, our poor troops, let them do it. But the

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scandal is the timescale. I agree with you there. We certainly can't

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say that we won't investigate any allegations from our troops just

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because they've been there doing the duty of their country but what I

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think is scandalous in this is the timescale. We're talking about 13

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years that this has been going on. But also the other scandal is the

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amount of money lawyers have been earning in the meantime, progressing

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with lots and lots of cases such as this, and as we say, the Sunday

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Telegraph is the only paper to have a story of this nature, which shows

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there is such a large number of these cases. But can you have a

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statute of limitations on something as serious as maltreatment? Well, it

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should have been done more quickly. Caroline has just referred to this

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disturbance story. Despicable betrayal of an SAS hero, it says.

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Facing murder charges after an investigation by the MoD into a

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mercy killing of we don't know how many soldiers. Iraqi soldiers. So

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killing people on the battlefield is a mercy killing? It says they were

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actually severely, mortally wounded. Was he a doctor? Why would you do

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that? How did he make the decision? This is a very dangerous precedent.

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It is not an SAS soldier, it is somebody who has Matt Baker -- made

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bad choices. But it is the pressure of war and how it can affect your

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thinking. Surely that has to be taken into consideration? I agree

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what you have said to an extent. The idea of a mercy killing at any level

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is disturbing. But I take on board what you are saying. Again, we're

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talking about 13 years for an investigation to be carried out.

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This chap has been under investigation for 13 years. That's

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where the shock lies. You can't have it both ways. Let's move on and look

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at the Sunday Telegraph again. Corbynite accused of creating a safe

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space for anti-Semites. -- Jeremy Corbyn accused of. This hasn't been

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dealt with yet in the Labour Party. Do you need me to show you? Do not

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have it? I'm so sorry. This has been rumbling on for a long time. They

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had an inquiry led by Dame Chakravarty, who sits in the House

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of Lords. This is the Home Affairs Select Committee, which is a very

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prestigious Home Affairs Select Committee within the House of

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Commons. Three MPs sit on it but one of them was dismissed temporarily

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because she herself was investigated for some claims around anti-Semitism

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herself. This report is basically accusing the Labour Party of being

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institutionally anti-Semitic, which is a very, very serious allegation,

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and I suppose the reason it is so disturbing is that it goes so much

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further than the report which was branded by many as somewhat of a

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whitewash. And what has Jeremy Corbyn said in response? He claims

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it is politicising anti-Semitism and just anti-Labour. Not much of a

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response, really. But I would probably go as far as to say the

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Labour Party is institution -- I wouldn't say there are

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institutionally anti-Semitic but it is something I certainly have

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concerns about. And other papers saying it is a lack of leadership?

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Yes, a lack of consistent late -- leadership. He was very strong one

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anti-Semitism at the Labour Party Conference but previous messages

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we've seen coming from him haven't been so strident. I understand he

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was invited to go to Israel to actually see for himself that the

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homeland of the Jewish population, and he's turned down the request.

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You can be anti-Israel and pro-Palestinian and not

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anti-Semitic. But it is about the policies of a government than a

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nation? Absolutely. They need to make a strong stand on this. We meet

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the female Republicans standing by their man! Donald Trump went at

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another of his campaign rallies. What is the appeal? I can't see it

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at all! I genuinely can't see it! This is a man who has said some

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fairly shocking things about women and almost suggested his stardom may

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deter OK for him to feel these women up, and now there's been a string of

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people coming forward to say that's what he's done and they weren't keen

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on him doing it. -- stardom made it OK. Conversely to that, we have

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Hillary Clinton, who could be the first female president of the United

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States, who doesn't have the support of the sisterhood at all. It is a

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very perverse state of affairs. In the United States, they've had

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nothing like the Jimmy Savile situation. What Donald Trump was

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talking about was not just locker room banter or hitting on women. He

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said it himself - using his stardom because you can get away with it.

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And that is far more insidious. The problem is, there's a section of

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American society where he can do anything and they will vote for him,

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so disaffected bay buy the political situation. He could get away with

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wink murder. -- disaffected they are by the political situation. This is

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The Observer saying Scotland is open for business, as Nicola Sturgeon has

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said they want to remain a trading partner for the EU, but how does

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that happen? One of the irony of -- one of the ironies of Brexit is that

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they might break up the union. Scotland voted against leaving the

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European Union. There might be material grounds for another

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referendum for Scotland's independence. Except it won't do

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much good for her given France and Germany have already said Scotland

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is part of the UK and we are only going to do business with the UK,

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and the fact that Donald Tusk has said he won't meet her to discuss

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their application to join. Even as an independent country. It is not

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much different from what she's been saying at every single opportunity

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she's been given. We get the message, Nicola. We understood loud

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and clear! I expect they are in the horse trading that goes on. People

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will take different positions repeatedly over the next year or so.

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What people say to us is not necessarily what is being discussed

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behind closed doors! You'll both be back at 11.30pm

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for another look at the stories

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