17/10/2016 The Papers

Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

With me are Rosamund Urwin, Columnist at The London Evening

Standard and Jim Waterson, Political Editor of Buzzfeed.

Before we hear what they have got to say, let's have a look through some

of the main stories. The Daily Telegraph.

on the front of the Telegraph - fresh from meeting MPs to explain

why he believes those accused of sexual crimes

The Metro leads on South Yorkshire Police's belief that missing toddler

Ben Needham died in an accident on Kos on the day he

Olympic boxing champion Nicola Adams is the Guardian's picture lead -

The Iraqi Army's offensive to recapture Mosul from so-called

The Times focus on claims that hundreds of millions of taxpayers

money is being wasted by the Government on a failed scheme to

help troubled families. First The Guardian and one of the lead

stories, a big story that has emerged in the last few days, Ukip's

front runner, Steven Woolfe, quitting the party. The disaster

after the referendum for Ukip continues. There is a question of

why does the party exist now? They would say they are needed to make

sure Theresa May delivers the referendum result. She seems

determined for Brexit to mean Brexit whatever that might mean. Well, she

keeps saying it. We had Diane James leader for 18 days. And then

obviously resign. And he is saying here that the party is ungovernable

and it does haven't the referendum to unite it or have Nigel Farage at

its head. And Nigel Farage is now back in his third stint as leader.

But he is as far as I can on his way to the United States for another

presidential debate. Or at least that was the plan a week ago. He was

supposed to be in the Trump Tower. And the man who can just about hold

the party together is in the United States. It was interesting here on

BBC News, we had the chairman of Ukip saying it was a good day for

Ukip with great things going on, a new dawn and another contender

saying, Ukip's in a mess and we have a long way to go and Nigel Farage

should have stuck around. He was keeping the party together. Even

interviewing Ukip members you hear different points of view. There is

the old golf club and Essex Kent original sort of base, that former

Conservative voter and you have the former Labour voters who have come,

particularly in the north of England. The idea was Steven Woolfe

could take over from Nigel Farage who was better in the south and he

was somebody who grew up in Mosside and win voters in former Labour

seats. He after one leadership election he was kept out on a

technicality and another ended up with him in hospital for various

reasons, which are disputed, and he has decided I'm getting out. I think

a lot of the other candidates, anyone of any quality in the party

will go, do I want to be in charge of what is left of Ukip? If you

voted for Brexit you are in an abyss, there is no real voice,

Theresa May is talking about it, saying Brexit means Brexit. There is

no opposition. Labour are also trying to sort themselves out. There

has been no opposition or critical voice or scrutiny of what the

Government's doing. It feels more like that if you voted remain, there

is a feeling that 48% of people and Theresa May's speech offered nothing

for us. But there is a question of who takes over. There are names

being touted and Suzanne Evans is at the head. And Paul Nuttal. I am not

sure Paul Nuttal wants to do it. He had a chance to do it and decided

against it and it was partly he didn't fancy it. Neither did she as

it turned out. No. So Suzanne Evans, who is good on TV and has done a lot

of media work, but hasn't been mofr than a councillor. And has not been

treated well... She is hated by the main donor. And the only candidate

is from a niche web-site. No one was thinking about politics today if

they were in Manchester. Everybody was thinking about Olympic gold and

silvers and bronzes in the rain. It did rather rain on the parade.

Nicola Adams looking very happy and wonderful. A lovely picture on The

Guardian. Nicola Adams who did a big wander with selfies, disappeared, to

make the most of the moment. As did Jessica Ennis-Hill. Also the main

photograph on The Times, taking a selfie of the crowds. Their faces

sum it up. It must be great and there must be that sort of strange

hangover after the fun has gone and with Jessica Ennis-Hill, who is

retiring and what do you do next and having to train and now you have

nothing to do. I like they had a parade in Manchester rather than in

London. I think they're coming here tomorrow. They're in Trafalgar

square. And the two Manchester lad s who got on the bus with a fake medal

and a fake jacket. Cameron back in the headlines, David Cameron wasted

a billion on troubled families, the Government exaggerated the success

of the project. I think David Cameron said 98% of families had

been helped. That is quite an exaggeration. Yes, the David Cameron

legacy getting another kicking. This scheme was to help what they

determined, what they termed sorry, troubled families and the idea was

to get adults off unemployment and top truancy and to stop people

getting cautioned or committing offences. This was, it came off the

2011 riots. Although there was a lot of people just kind of jumping on

the bandwagon, there was clear anger and divisions in society and David

Cameron said we are going to sort this out. But the idea you can

change problems by chucking a billion quid which in the scale of

things given the scale of the issues in terms of employment and some

people not having jobs that could be suitable for people, the idea you

can chuck money at it and within five years see any change is, it is

one of the depressing things when you realise there is a limit to what

politicians can do. They like to think with a billion they can change

lives. But when it comes to deep structuralal things, none of us like

to admit our limited abilities. It with auz tackling a -- it was

tackling a wide range of issues. It was a team of independent analysts.

I think local authorities identified the families and you had a key

worker assigned, a social worker I assume, it was their duty to address

the issues. Trying to reduce truancy is not perhaps helped by getting

them to check in with someone. It is down to deep-roofted problems. 45%

of families who went through the programme still claiming. The Daily

Telegraph a picture of Sir Cliff Richard in a car with the BBC

broadcaster Paul Gambaccini. Both of them and a lot of people wanting to

see anonymity for those accused of sexual offences. You can understand

why they're arguing for that. Both have endured a drawn out, painful

process. That seemed very unfair and they have been trited poorly. --

treated poorly. But I'm utterly opposed as are every women group who

act to combat violence against women is opposed to anonymity for

defendants. Part of system is transparency and police seeking

corroborating evidence... But the police deny naming them. It is

always leaked. The argument it helps with their inquiries, it is often

dismissed, the police denied naming them. I do think we need openness in

our, because for one thing it keeps the public having confidence in the

legal system. I admit that is not a great system where it is picked up

by the papers, rather than the police naming a suspect. But I think

we forget the reason that accusers are granted anonymity is because

they're a witness and often in cased this is, they're witness to the

worst thing that will happen and the reason they were granted anonymity,

was because so few women could come forward, because if they had to face

this. But isn't the real issue false accusations, people that not only

ruin the lives of people like Sir Cliff, but real victims who might

not be believed. I cannot think of anything worse than having a false

accusation. But on the basic level in every profile written about them

it will always be mentioned. It might be a case where it is an

unfortunate effect of a system where if you want to get prosecutions and

get a culture where people come forwarder and I don't think having a

cover up to keep prominent names out of the press is what would increase

trust in the system that a lot of people don't trust. Part of the

issue is when these things happen, it does get sensationalised and that

creates a thing where it BPs even -- becomes and feels even more harmful

to their reputation. The other thing is that not drag out so much. They

point out a 22-monthings investigation into Sir Cliff

Richard. That seemed to be excessive. Now a lighter story, the

Daily Telegraph, get the winter weather, is this true? A year ahead

from the Met Office? You're asking a political correspondent to predict

anything a week ahead. Careful, there is still a lot of them in. I

is a that myself. -- I say that myself. I don't want to know the

weather a year in advance. I'm happy enough just walking out and working

out what it is on the day. Apparently the Met Office can now

using past weather patterns work out what it was in the past and what it

will be in a year. It is great, you can plan your holidays. You would be

so disappointed if you booked that one week... I missed some horrendous

storm in 2013. You could plan your wedding and your Olympic parade. At

the moment you take a punt and you're disappointed if it is not

nice. If you thought that was the one or two day gap you would be

distract. The producer's whispering, maybe it is only for Saudi Arabia.

We will see. I have never known it to be possible to predict. The only

man I have known is a guy called Pierce Corbyn, the brother of the

Labour leader. I am not sure I believe him. And the Express. They

always get it right! Thank you both very much. Thank you for joining us.

All the front-pages are online on the BBC news web-site and you can

read a detailed review of the papers.

After a mild couple of days, the weather's on the change. We will see

lower faechlts -- temperatures. That cold front is heading down from

Scotland and Northern Ireland with some sharp busts of rain and a gusty