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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be


With me are Rosamund Urwin, Columnist at The London Evening


Standard and Jim Waterson, Political Editor of Buzzfeed.


Before we hear what they have got to say, let's have a look through some


of the main stories. The Daily Telegraph.


on the front of the Telegraph - fresh from meeting MPs to explain


why he believes those accused of sexual crimes


The Metro leads on South Yorkshire Police's belief that missing toddler


Ben Needham died in an accident on Kos on the day he


Olympic boxing champion Nicola Adams is the Guardian's picture lead -


The Iraqi Army's offensive to recapture Mosul from so-called


The Times focus on claims that hundreds of millions of taxpayers


money is being wasted by the Government on a failed scheme to


help troubled families. First The Guardian and one of the lead


stories, a big story that has emerged in the last few days, Ukip's


front runner, Steven Woolfe, quitting the party. The disaster


after the referendum for Ukip continues. There is a question of


why does the party exist now? They would say they are needed to make


sure Theresa May delivers the referendum result. She seems


determined for Brexit to mean Brexit whatever that might mean. Well, she


keeps saying it. We had Diane James leader for 18 days. And then


obviously resign. And he is saying here that the party is ungovernable


and it does haven't the referendum to unite it or have Nigel Farage at


its head. And Nigel Farage is now back in his third stint as leader.


But he is as far as I can on his way to the United States for another


presidential debate. Or at least that was the plan a week ago. He was


supposed to be in the Trump Tower. And the man who can just about hold


the party together is in the United States. It was interesting here on


BBC News, we had the chairman of Ukip saying it was a good day for


Ukip with great things going on, a new dawn and another contender


saying, Ukip's in a mess and we have a long way to go and Nigel Farage


should have stuck around. He was keeping the party together. Even


interviewing Ukip members you hear different points of view. There is


the old golf club and Essex Kent original sort of base, that former


Conservative voter and you have the former Labour voters who have come,


particularly in the north of England. The idea was Steven Woolfe


could take over from Nigel Farage who was better in the south and he


was somebody who grew up in Mosside and win voters in former Labour


seats. He after one leadership election he was kept out on a


technicality and another ended up with him in hospital for various


reasons, which are disputed, and he has decided I'm getting out. I think


a lot of the other candidates, anyone of any quality in the party


will go, do I want to be in charge of what is left of Ukip? If you


voted for Brexit you are in an abyss, there is no real voice,


Theresa May is talking about it, saying Brexit means Brexit. There is


no opposition. Labour are also trying to sort themselves out. There


has been no opposition or critical voice or scrutiny of what the


Government's doing. It feels more like that if you voted remain, there


is a feeling that 48% of people and Theresa May's speech offered nothing


for us. But there is a question of who takes over. There are names


being touted and Suzanne Evans is at the head. And Paul Nuttal. I am not


sure Paul Nuttal wants to do it. He had a chance to do it and decided


against it and it was partly he didn't fancy it. Neither did she as


it turned out. No. So Suzanne Evans, who is good on TV and has done a lot


of media work, but hasn't been mofr than a councillor. And has not been


treated well... She is hated by the main donor. And the only candidate


is from a niche web-site. No one was thinking about politics today if


they were in Manchester. Everybody was thinking about Olympic gold and


silvers and bronzes in the rain. It did rather rain on the parade.


Nicola Adams looking very happy and wonderful. A lovely picture on The


Guardian. Nicola Adams who did a big wander with selfies, disappeared, to


make the most of the moment. As did Jessica Ennis-Hill. Also the main


photograph on The Times, taking a selfie of the crowds. Their faces


sum it up. It must be great and there must be that sort of strange


hangover after the fun has gone and with Jessica Ennis-Hill, who is


retiring and what do you do next and having to train and now you have


nothing to do. I like they had a parade in Manchester rather than in


London. I think they're coming here tomorrow. They're in Trafalgar


square. And the two Manchester lad s who got on the bus with a fake medal


and a fake jacket. Cameron back in the headlines, David Cameron wasted


a billion on troubled families, the Government exaggerated the success


of the project. I think David Cameron said 98% of families had


been helped. That is quite an exaggeration. Yes, the David Cameron


legacy getting another kicking. This scheme was to help what they


determined, what they termed sorry, troubled families and the idea was


to get adults off unemployment and top truancy and to stop people


getting cautioned or committing offences. This was, it came off the


2011 riots. Although there was a lot of people just kind of jumping on


the bandwagon, there was clear anger and divisions in society and David


Cameron said we are going to sort this out. But the idea you can


change problems by chucking a billion quid which in the scale of


things given the scale of the issues in terms of employment and some


people not having jobs that could be suitable for people, the idea you


can chuck money at it and within five years see any change is, it is


one of the depressing things when you realise there is a limit to what


politicians can do. They like to think with a billion they can change


lives. But when it comes to deep structuralal things, none of us like


to admit our limited abilities. It with auz tackling a -- it was


tackling a wide range of issues. It was a team of independent analysts.


I think local authorities identified the families and you had a key


worker assigned, a social worker I assume, it was their duty to address


the issues. Trying to reduce truancy is not perhaps helped by getting


them to check in with someone. It is down to deep-roofted problems. 45%


of families who went through the programme still claiming. The Daily


Telegraph a picture of Sir Cliff Richard in a car with the BBC


broadcaster Paul Gambaccini. Both of them and a lot of people wanting to


see anonymity for those accused of sexual offences. You can understand


why they're arguing for that. Both have endured a drawn out, painful


process. That seemed very unfair and they have been trited poorly. --


treated poorly. But I'm utterly opposed as are every women group who


act to combat violence against women is opposed to anonymity for


defendants. Part of system is transparency and police seeking


corroborating evidence... But the police deny naming them. It is


always leaked. The argument it helps with their inquiries, it is often


dismissed, the police denied naming them. I do think we need openness in


our, because for one thing it keeps the public having confidence in the


legal system. I admit that is not a great system where it is picked up


by the papers, rather than the police naming a suspect. But I think


we forget the reason that accusers are granted anonymity is because


they're a witness and often in cased this is, they're witness to the


worst thing that will happen and the reason they were granted anonymity,


was because so few women could come forward, because if they had to face


this. But isn't the real issue false accusations, people that not only


ruin the lives of people like Sir Cliff, but real victims who might


not be believed. I cannot think of anything worse than having a false


accusation. But on the basic level in every profile written about them


it will always be mentioned. It might be a case where it is an


unfortunate effect of a system where if you want to get prosecutions and


get a culture where people come forwarder and I don't think having a


cover up to keep prominent names out of the press is what would increase


trust in the system that a lot of people don't trust. Part of the


issue is when these things happen, it does get sensationalised and that


creates a thing where it BPs even -- becomes and feels even more harmful


to their reputation. The other thing is that not drag out so much. They


point out a 22-monthings investigation into Sir Cliff


Richard. That seemed to be excessive. Now a lighter story, the


Daily Telegraph, get the winter weather, is this true? A year ahead


from the Met Office? You're asking a political correspondent to predict


anything a week ahead. Careful, there is still a lot of them in. I


is a that myself. -- I say that myself. I don't want to know the


weather a year in advance. I'm happy enough just walking out and working


out what it is on the day. Apparently the Met Office can now


using past weather patterns work out what it was in the past and what it


will be in a year. It is great, you can plan your holidays. You would be


so disappointed if you booked that one week... I missed some horrendous


storm in 2013. You could plan your wedding and your Olympic parade. At


the moment you take a punt and you're disappointed if it is not


nice. If you thought that was the one or two day gap you would be


distract. The producer's whispering, maybe it is only for Saudi Arabia.


We will see. I have never known it to be possible to predict. The only


man I have known is a guy called Pierce Corbyn, the brother of the


Labour leader. I am not sure I believe him. And the Express. They


always get it right! Thank you both very much. Thank you for joining us.


All the front-pages are online on the BBC news web-site and you can


read a detailed review of the papers.


After a mild couple of days, the weather's on the change. We will see


lower faechlts -- temperatures. That cold front is heading down from


Scotland and Northern Ireland with some sharp busts of rain and a gusty


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