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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are Michael Booker, Deputy Editor of The Express

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and Martin Bentham, Home Affairs Editor

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Thank you gentlemen for being here. Let's have a look first of all at

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all of the front pages. Before we get into the details.

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The Telegraph leads on the latest delay to the decision

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on whether to build a new runway at Heathrow.

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The FT reports on the jump in the value of the pound,

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as investors considered the possibility that

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MPs may have a vote on the final Brexit deal.

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The Metro reports on the murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards

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The Express leads on concerns that adult migrants are posing as child

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The Guardian says Cabinet ministers have been warned that the UK

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could suffer a sharp fall in GDP if it pulls out of

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The i leads on the rise in inflation.

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And the Times leads on accusations that Theresa May has 'fudged'

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More to come back as well. Gentlemen, let's begin. Michael you

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will kick as off on the front page of the FT. This is a little bit of a

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rally for the pound? We are getting the wind of possible fudges. The

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fears of a hard Brexit have been eased. There are twitchy types in

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the city at the moment, things are going up and down all the time for

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that you get the impression until we do actually achieve full Brexit, the

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FT are going to have headlines reflecting this up and down every

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time. This time this has come on the back of a lawyer for the government

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who has told the High Court there will be before a final deal in

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Brussels, there will be Parliamentary approval given. This,

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apparently, has given succour to those in the city that think we

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might not get a hard Brexit or may not get Brexit at all because there

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might be a vote against it. But any MP that does that, and any

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parliament that does that, there will be riots on the streets. At the

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moment the city are just enjoying... They are thinking, finally someone

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is saying nice things, soft Brexit and are taking some solace in this.

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But is it just putting it off? You get the impression it is. The

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crucial thing here is in fact the people who are participating in the

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court case arguing there should be a vote on triggering the Brexit

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protest, they argue this vote at the end which the government lawyer has

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suggested would happen to approve the treaty. If we strike a new deal

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with the EU there will be a treaty that sets that out. UK law requires

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parliament to consider that, that probably means a vote and that is

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what he said. The argument is having triggered Brexit through Article 50,

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Parliament, if it voted against, then we would just be out anyway

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without a treaty. So we couldn't fall back on things like the World

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Trade Organisation. The Remain camp are arguing this is an adequate. On

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the back of this, the city have suddenly thought, this is positive,

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it's not going to be as difficult as we thought, therefore the pound has

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fluctuated up a little bit. Just to add to the confusion, in the FT

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story here it says Goldman Sachs thinks the pound is still overvalued

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and should go down further. Another big financial institutional is

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saying the pound is now the other way round, undervalued and should be

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going up. These are the great experts and they don't really know!

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That's what we're seeing, lots of uncertainty. It seems ever seen the

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vote no one has a clue, particularly those in the city. The way they are

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reacting to every bit of news... And we had that Flash plunge of the

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pound the other week, which was done by a computer. This is what we're

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relying on at the moment in the city. You can see this is going to

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be happening time and again until something actually happens. This is

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where the Prime Minister is right, in fact if every cough in space is

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talked about... She said we don't want a running commentary on

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negotiation. Of course there should be scrutineering discussion, but on

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the other hand, people can overinterpret every little sign and

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then has this affect. Looking in terms of the FT themselves, they

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wanted to stay in. They campaigned to stay in that, so headlines like

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this, it's almost then mopping their own browser. If we are going to talk

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about every nuance that comes up, the Guardian has picked up this

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customs union issue, and how things might look if we pulled out of it.

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It's a little bit... It is a little what if. It's one of the

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possibilities and it goes into talking about less obtuse things,

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like if there was a new customs barrier, we'd need another car park

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at Dover. Because there is an proper space for the car parking delays

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that would be required to get through. The practicalities, isn't

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it? I'm quite sceptical. It is on papers drawn up before the vote and

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it's just a theoretical scenario, and it says here it could lead to

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4.5% fall in GDP by 2030. I would like to know precisely, we don't see

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this in the story, but this has a ring of being similar to the

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Treasury forecast, that we will be worse off, each household ?4300

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worse off. When you looked at it wasn't people would be worse off

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than today, but the increase in wealth was going to be less than it

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would otherwise have been if we stayed in. I wonder if that's still

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growth, still the country growing but theoretically not as much. The

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key thing to discover these reports came before the referendum. Why are

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they still looking at these outdated reports? The entire story seems to

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be repackaged... This idea that if we suddenly have to have customs

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checks, at our borders, the backlog of things that have to go through

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our extreme. Do think they pick on is the extra car parking spaces.

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There is some investment for car parking companies and tarmac. Glass

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half full. It is a legitimate concern on something the Prime

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Minister and government team will be dealing with, but it is a long way

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from happening. A teasing out a more minor issue. Let's stay with

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politics. The Daily Telegraph, they have got may delays Heathrow

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decision for you. We thought this couldn't take any longer to make a

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decision on new runways but we're still going. To be fair to Theresa

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May she has some huge things on her desk when she moved in. This is

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another one. What I like about this is it is full of vagaries. People

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say this is just kicking the can down the road and fudging but it is

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good political fudging. The fact she said she is going to give colleagues

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the freedom to voice opposition, but with a number of caveats. The

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caveats to me are fantastic. A number... You have to have

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previously voiced opinion on the matter, have constituencies close to

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the affected airports, banned from campaigning actively, can't publicly

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criticise the decision-making process and barred from speaking

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against the government's position in the Commons. You can say whatever

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you like... Had a nice little dinner party at your house. It's clever.

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It's going to put it off again until next winter, which is incredibly

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vague. We are going to hear the government position before the end

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of the month. The end of next week, I think. In a sense there is

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progress, albeit slow. I think these are almost Boris causes. Another

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cabinet minister with a London constituency who is opposed to

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Heathrow, which is what it looks like it's going to be. At the same

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time I suspect... There is a political desire to keep those

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people within the cabin and not force them into a corner, so they

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will allow them to voice their concerns, at the same time I suspect

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there is a degree to which the government wants to make sure they

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are, it sounds ridiculous, shown to be consulting properly, as if that

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hasn't been enough consideration. From a legal point of view, I think

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the government does need to be absolutely sure it shown every

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effort to consult and account of all opinions otherwise they will face

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legal battles, judicial review of the legal making process. We were

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saying earlier she did the same with Hinckley. Looking around at all the

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issues she's inherited and she has to do the same at this. Not start

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from scratch but given careful consideration. Michael, take us to

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the Daily Express, your paper, what is your lead story? In the last

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couple of days we have seen the child migrants who have been coming

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over from Calais as the jungle camp is dismantled. Most British people

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will be glad to trying help out kids coming over here who have got

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families here already. We've been told they are looking at the

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vulnerable children still over there. When some of the pictures

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came out in the last 24 hours or so, some Tory MPs, we had quite a lot of

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readers contacting us today saying, we are also vulnerable kids being

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brought over here when we see the pictures of kids blown up in Aleppo

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and things like that, orphans there, then we see some of the ones here

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and a lot of them do look a lot older. The Home Office say they have

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given as many checks as they can, but the anger here is at least

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checks. If they don't have any papers on them, which a lot of them

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don't in the camps, then it's just done on a visual look at these

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people. If their physical appearance or demeanour suggests to them they

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are definitely not over 18, then they have been allowed through. Some

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people are saying, particularly Tory MP David Davis, he is saying we are

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giving hospitality to hulking young men. He is going to the extremes,

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but I think... It is a thorny issue. We have a duty of care to a lot of

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these people, but if it is these people who are pretending to be

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children getting in, we have a problem because they're taking the

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place of honourable children. Is tricky. It is, a problem the Home

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Office has faced with people on the borderline between being children,

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16-17 and slightly older or a fair bit older than that. Having been in

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Afghanistan a few times, sometimes people there do look quite old when

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they are not very old. You discover sometimes they are not very clear

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themselves, to be frank, about when their birthday originally was. There

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is some confusion in this. Clearly there are a lot of honourable people

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there. It's good that we're taking at least some of them, some people

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are saying we're not doing enough and there is still this ongoing

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problem of what will happen to the people who are not automatically

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entitled to come here, have no family connections here, who are in

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the Calais camp and what will happen to them. That is an open question.

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The plan is now the jungle is being dismantled but there doesn't seem to

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be much of a follow-up plan? Not at the moment, they seem to disperse

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people and it's just luck. This has been an ongoing issue. There were

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some figures earlier on, for 2015 there was for asylum seekers here in

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many cases 571 age disputes about people claiming asylum. Out of them

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371 were found to be adults. There are people who have been trying to

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exploit this. Putting yourself in their position, if you have a chance

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of a new life, maybe you would lie as well. If it is taking the places

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of honourable children, it is a problem. Normally you would be

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entitled to asylum regardless of your age, if you met the criteria.

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The difference is how they are treated in this particular scheme,

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it's meant to be about children rather than adults. Martin, take us

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back to the FT. They have a picture of President Obama, changing tack

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completely going overseas, a large election coming up. Weighing in

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today is President Obama, who has a message to Donald Trump to stop

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whining. He has a message but I don't think it will get through.

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Telling him to stop whining because Donald Trump has been going round

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ever more vehemently insisting the election is ripped against him,

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everything is against him in effect, and creating his defence in advance

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of what's looking more likely to be a defeat by the day in the

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presidential poll when it comes. And so Obama saying exactly that, should

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be concentrating on fighting the election, trying to gather votes.

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Obviously he doesn't want him to get many votes, but he's telling him to

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do that rather than spend all his time with great conspiracy theory,

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which is simply that, I think. That could be explosive, at the end of

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the day. If he keeps saying this. If the Democrats... They look like

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there are increasingly confident, but if it gets to the point where he

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is still talking this rhetoric am election dates and he is still

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saying it's being raped, then you have people, is very angry people

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over bets, it could be a flash point. -- saying it's being rigged.

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We finish with the Telegraph, a story that will raise an eyebrow.

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Fashion eating this one, brushing teeth could prevent heart attacks.

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Wake your kids up and tell I will be brushing my teeth before I go to

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bed. The experts, the boffins in the States believe that brushing your

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teeth thoroughly, it brings down inflammation in the body, similar to

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what statins do. They say it is almost as effective as statins in

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bringing down inflammation, linked to a high prevalence of heart

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attacks. They've been able to do this with people pass by putting

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some special to space to show whether plaque is, you brush had

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out, get that off, your information goes down all through your body and

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less chance of a heart attack. A description of a tube of toothpaste

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blue incredible, the person that led this, and medical professor from

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Florida, apparently he's part of the team that worked out the benefits of

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aspirin. He is clearly a very serious... Player on information. He

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says exactly that, it's a very simple thing to do, could have a big

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impact and no side-effects... I consider we've done everyone a

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public service. Four minutes to 11, almost bedtime, go and get your

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toothbrush. My thanks to Michael Booker and Martin Bentham for coming

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to talk me through the papers this evening. That is all from us

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tonight. Don't forget all the front pages

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are online on the BBC News website where you can read a detailed review

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of the papers. It's all there for you -

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7 days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers, and you can see us there too,

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with each night's edition of The Papers being posted

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on the page shortly after we've Thank you once again to Martin and

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Michael foot of the weather coming up next.

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A day of sunny skies and clear air for many of you but for others

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dramatic skies and spectacular rainbows. Quite a few

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