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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be


With me are Michael Booker, Deputy Editor of The Express


and Martin Bentham, Home Affairs Editor


Thank you gentlemen for being here. Let's have a look first of all at


all of the front pages. Before we get into the details.


The Telegraph leads on the latest delay to the decision


on whether to build a new runway at Heathrow.


The FT reports on the jump in the value of the pound,


as investors considered the possibility that


MPs may have a vote on the final Brexit deal.


The Metro reports on the murder of Elizabeth and Katie Edwards


The Express leads on concerns that adult migrants are posing as child


The Guardian says Cabinet ministers have been warned that the UK


could suffer a sharp fall in GDP if it pulls out of


The i leads on the rise in inflation.


And the Times leads on accusations that Theresa May has 'fudged'


More to come back as well. Gentlemen, let's begin. Michael you


will kick as off on the front page of the FT. This is a little bit of a


rally for the pound? We are getting the wind of possible fudges. The


fears of a hard Brexit have been eased. There are twitchy types in


the city at the moment, things are going up and down all the time for


that you get the impression until we do actually achieve full Brexit, the


FT are going to have headlines reflecting this up and down every


time. This time this has come on the back of a lawyer for the government


who has told the High Court there will be before a final deal in


Brussels, there will be Parliamentary approval given. This,


apparently, has given succour to those in the city that think we


might not get a hard Brexit or may not get Brexit at all because there


might be a vote against it. But any MP that does that, and any


parliament that does that, there will be riots on the streets. At the


moment the city are just enjoying... They are thinking, finally someone


is saying nice things, soft Brexit and are taking some solace in this.


But is it just putting it off? You get the impression it is. The


crucial thing here is in fact the people who are participating in the


court case arguing there should be a vote on triggering the Brexit


protest, they argue this vote at the end which the government lawyer has


suggested would happen to approve the treaty. If we strike a new deal


with the EU there will be a treaty that sets that out. UK law requires


parliament to consider that, that probably means a vote and that is


what he said. The argument is having triggered Brexit through Article 50,


Parliament, if it voted against, then we would just be out anyway


without a treaty. So we couldn't fall back on things like the World


Trade Organisation. The Remain camp are arguing this is an adequate. On


the back of this, the city have suddenly thought, this is positive,


it's not going to be as difficult as we thought, therefore the pound has


fluctuated up a little bit. Just to add to the confusion, in the FT


story here it says Goldman Sachs thinks the pound is still overvalued


and should go down further. Another big financial institutional is


saying the pound is now the other way round, undervalued and should be


going up. These are the great experts and they don't really know!


That's what we're seeing, lots of uncertainty. It seems ever seen the


vote no one has a clue, particularly those in the city. The way they are


reacting to every bit of news... And we had that Flash plunge of the


pound the other week, which was done by a computer. This is what we're


relying on at the moment in the city. You can see this is going to


be happening time and again until something actually happens. This is


where the Prime Minister is right, in fact if every cough in space is


talked about... She said we don't want a running commentary on


negotiation. Of course there should be scrutineering discussion, but on


the other hand, people can overinterpret every little sign and


then has this affect. Looking in terms of the FT themselves, they


wanted to stay in. They campaigned to stay in that, so headlines like


this, it's almost then mopping their own browser. If we are going to talk


about every nuance that comes up, the Guardian has picked up this


customs union issue, and how things might look if we pulled out of it.


It's a little bit... It is a little what if. It's one of the


possibilities and it goes into talking about less obtuse things,


like if there was a new customs barrier, we'd need another car park


at Dover. Because there is an proper space for the car parking delays


that would be required to get through. The practicalities, isn't


it? I'm quite sceptical. It is on papers drawn up before the vote and


it's just a theoretical scenario, and it says here it could lead to


4.5% fall in GDP by 2030. I would like to know precisely, we don't see


this in the story, but this has a ring of being similar to the


Treasury forecast, that we will be worse off, each household ?4300


worse off. When you looked at it wasn't people would be worse off


than today, but the increase in wealth was going to be less than it


would otherwise have been if we stayed in. I wonder if that's still


growth, still the country growing but theoretically not as much. The


key thing to discover these reports came before the referendum. Why are


they still looking at these outdated reports? The entire story seems to


be repackaged... This idea that if we suddenly have to have customs


checks, at our borders, the backlog of things that have to go through


our extreme. Do think they pick on is the extra car parking spaces.


There is some investment for car parking companies and tarmac. Glass


half full. It is a legitimate concern on something the Prime


Minister and government team will be dealing with, but it is a long way


from happening. A teasing out a more minor issue. Let's stay with


politics. The Daily Telegraph, they have got may delays Heathrow


decision for you. We thought this couldn't take any longer to make a


decision on new runways but we're still going. To be fair to Theresa


May she has some huge things on her desk when she moved in. This is


another one. What I like about this is it is full of vagaries. People


say this is just kicking the can down the road and fudging but it is


good political fudging. The fact she said she is going to give colleagues


the freedom to voice opposition, but with a number of caveats. The


caveats to me are fantastic. A number... You have to have


previously voiced opinion on the matter, have constituencies close to


the affected airports, banned from campaigning actively, can't publicly


criticise the decision-making process and barred from speaking


against the government's position in the Commons. You can say whatever


you like... Had a nice little dinner party at your house. It's clever.


It's going to put it off again until next winter, which is incredibly


vague. We are going to hear the government position before the end


of the month. The end of next week, I think. In a sense there is


progress, albeit slow. I think these are almost Boris causes. Another


cabinet minister with a London constituency who is opposed to


Heathrow, which is what it looks like it's going to be. At the same


time I suspect... There is a political desire to keep those


people within the cabin and not force them into a corner, so they


will allow them to voice their concerns, at the same time I suspect


there is a degree to which the government wants to make sure they


are, it sounds ridiculous, shown to be consulting properly, as if that


hasn't been enough consideration. From a legal point of view, I think


the government does need to be absolutely sure it shown every


effort to consult and account of all opinions otherwise they will face


legal battles, judicial review of the legal making process. We were


saying earlier she did the same with Hinckley. Looking around at all the


issues she's inherited and she has to do the same at this. Not start


from scratch but given careful consideration. Michael, take us to


the Daily Express, your paper, what is your lead story? In the last


couple of days we have seen the child migrants who have been coming


over from Calais as the jungle camp is dismantled. Most British people


will be glad to trying help out kids coming over here who have got


families here already. We've been told they are looking at the


vulnerable children still over there. When some of the pictures


came out in the last 24 hours or so, some Tory MPs, we had quite a lot of


readers contacting us today saying, we are also vulnerable kids being


brought over here when we see the pictures of kids blown up in Aleppo


and things like that, orphans there, then we see some of the ones here


and a lot of them do look a lot older. The Home Office say they have


given as many checks as they can, but the anger here is at least


checks. If they don't have any papers on them, which a lot of them


don't in the camps, then it's just done on a visual look at these


people. If their physical appearance or demeanour suggests to them they


are definitely not over 18, then they have been allowed through. Some


people are saying, particularly Tory MP David Davis, he is saying we are


giving hospitality to hulking young men. He is going to the extremes,


but I think... It is a thorny issue. We have a duty of care to a lot of


these people, but if it is these people who are pretending to be


children getting in, we have a problem because they're taking the


place of honourable children. Is tricky. It is, a problem the Home


Office has faced with people on the borderline between being children,


16-17 and slightly older or a fair bit older than that. Having been in


Afghanistan a few times, sometimes people there do look quite old when


they are not very old. You discover sometimes they are not very clear


themselves, to be frank, about when their birthday originally was. There


is some confusion in this. Clearly there are a lot of honourable people


there. It's good that we're taking at least some of them, some people


are saying we're not doing enough and there is still this ongoing


problem of what will happen to the people who are not automatically


entitled to come here, have no family connections here, who are in


the Calais camp and what will happen to them. That is an open question.


The plan is now the jungle is being dismantled but there doesn't seem to


be much of a follow-up plan? Not at the moment, they seem to disperse


people and it's just luck. This has been an ongoing issue. There were


some figures earlier on, for 2015 there was for asylum seekers here in


many cases 571 age disputes about people claiming asylum. Out of them


371 were found to be adults. There are people who have been trying to


exploit this. Putting yourself in their position, if you have a chance


of a new life, maybe you would lie as well. If it is taking the places


of honourable children, it is a problem. Normally you would be


entitled to asylum regardless of your age, if you met the criteria.


The difference is how they are treated in this particular scheme,


it's meant to be about children rather than adults. Martin, take us


back to the FT. They have a picture of President Obama, changing tack


completely going overseas, a large election coming up. Weighing in


today is President Obama, who has a message to Donald Trump to stop


whining. He has a message but I don't think it will get through.


Telling him to stop whining because Donald Trump has been going round


ever more vehemently insisting the election is ripped against him,


everything is against him in effect, and creating his defence in advance


of what's looking more likely to be a defeat by the day in the


presidential poll when it comes. And so Obama saying exactly that, should


be concentrating on fighting the election, trying to gather votes.


Obviously he doesn't want him to get many votes, but he's telling him to


do that rather than spend all his time with great conspiracy theory,


which is simply that, I think. That could be explosive, at the end of


the day. If he keeps saying this. If the Democrats... They look like


there are increasingly confident, but if it gets to the point where he


is still talking this rhetoric am election dates and he is still


saying it's being raped, then you have people, is very angry people


over bets, it could be a flash point. -- saying it's being rigged.


We finish with the Telegraph, a story that will raise an eyebrow.


Fashion eating this one, brushing teeth could prevent heart attacks.


Wake your kids up and tell I will be brushing my teeth before I go to


bed. The experts, the boffins in the States believe that brushing your


teeth thoroughly, it brings down inflammation in the body, similar to


what statins do. They say it is almost as effective as statins in


bringing down inflammation, linked to a high prevalence of heart


attacks. They've been able to do this with people pass by putting


some special to space to show whether plaque is, you brush had


out, get that off, your information goes down all through your body and


less chance of a heart attack. A description of a tube of toothpaste


blue incredible, the person that led this, and medical professor from


Florida, apparently he's part of the team that worked out the benefits of


aspirin. He is clearly a very serious... Player on information. He


says exactly that, it's a very simple thing to do, could have a big


impact and no side-effects... I consider we've done everyone a


public service. Four minutes to 11, almost bedtime, go and get your


toothbrush. My thanks to Michael Booker and Martin Bentham for coming


to talk me through the papers this evening. That is all from us


tonight. Don't forget all the front pages


are online on the BBC News website where you can read a detailed review


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Michael foot of the weather coming up next.


A day of sunny skies and clear air for many of you but for others


dramatic skies and spectacular rainbows. Quite a few


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