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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are Lucy Fisher, senior political correspondent

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for the Times, and commentator Henry Bonsu.

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Tomorrow's front pages: The Telegraph leads

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The paper says the prime suspect for the massacre was under covert

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surveillance for months as a possible terrorist,

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but police let him slip through their grasp

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Anis Amri stares from the front of the Metro.

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He is now said to be the most wanted man in Europe.

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The Times says the authorities suspected Amri of preparing

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a serious crime, endangering national safety, but red tape

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The i says the German authorities are under pressure after a series

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of blunders in their hunt for the killer.

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The FT pictures some of the suspect's different identities.

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Its main story is that the world's oldest bank is to be rescued

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The Guardian says Amri was known to multiple

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And the Sun has a pun on the Queen's cold.

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Throne a sickie... It is actually quite good, that one. It is actually

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quite good. But we are going to discuss it a little bit later on.

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The Berlin massacre suspect was watched for months, on the front

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page of the Times. We now know a hell of a lot about this guy. A lot

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coming through compared to what we discussed in the last hour. We found

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out he was put under surveillance in March earlier this year by German

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prosecutors, but they abandoned the surveillance after about six months

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because they decided that although they found out that he planned to

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break in, taking money for automatic weapons to do one of those roving

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massacres, when they put him under close surveillance the measures

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produced no evidence to justify, in their view, any further expenditure

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and further man-hours. They abandoned it. The same thing

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happened with the French attackers last year. Initially they came to

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the notice of authorities and were put under surveillance but then

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eventually they couldn't justify monitoring them any more. Other

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things which have emerged, the man's father, Anis Amri, has described him

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as a violent, drugtaking adolescent and we found out he was in jail in

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Italy for setting fire to an asylum centre, an immigrant migration

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Centre. So this picture has emerged of a guy... The classic, you could

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say, a guy who has left his country, Tunisia, he has come into the

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European Union and come to the notice of authorities and been put

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under surveillance. He has done things which may in some

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jurisdictions have justified and arrest or possibly a trial, but in

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Italy and then Germany he seems to have moved on and got into the wider

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community. But clearly he has got a history of crime. A lot of issues

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there. The authorities in Germany wanted to deport him, even though

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they couldn't stick the label of terrorist on him, because they kept

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him under surveillance, they didn't find enough evidence. They wanted to

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get rid of him but couldn't because the documentation wasn't there. That

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is what it seems to be. It's extraordinary to find out today that

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just 44 hours after this atrocity the passport arrived from the

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Tunisian authorities, which meant the German authorities could have

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sent him back. I think terror attacks like these throw out these

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questions between the limits between liberalism, respect for the rule of

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law and the desire to perhaps be more authoritarian, push measures

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through and ride roughshod over that. Everyone needs to take a deep

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breath and a step back a bit. While we are taking a deep rest, we have

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to look at police procedure. Certainly, and why he was let go and

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that doubt. Two the police talk about these gold and 24 hours after

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an incident, and it appears they missed his temporary German

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resident's permit, in the foot well of the lorry, for 24 hours. And

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there are forensics all the way around the Christmas market and as a

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result they pointed the finger at the wrong guy for 24 hours, adding

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this guy the head start. On the Financial Times, this is a guy who

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knows how to hide, so even though there is an arrest warrant out for

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him, Europe wide, wanted Europe wide, with many faces, the thing is,

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he has got many faces. He knows how to hide, the sky. It is

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extraordinary looking at these four different mugshots. In some he has

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put on weight, he seems to be screwing up his eyes, and he has six

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different names, has posed as a Lebanese national, an Egyptian, as

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well as Tunisian. In a way he seems to be the perfect criminal. A

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history of petty crime, violence, drugtaking, as his father said, he

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also has these bigger connections, to jihadis and Islamic leaders as

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well. He can do anything now, maybe slimming his face, and this will be

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a real test of the German authorities. How well do they know

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their minority communities, their Islamic communities? They will need

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human intelligence. If he is still in Germany. All the countries

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bordering Germany, they will co-operate with Germany, and we have

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Euro poll in the free movement of goods, services and people. Shang

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will problem we eat toast in a few years time -- Schengen. They need

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human intelligence to find out where guy is. There will be someone who

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knows him. That is part of the argument about surveillance in this

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country, in that there is a sense that the police have more contacts

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within different communities and there is more of a willingness

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within communities within this country to turn someone in, whereas

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that link between officers and the public is not as deep, not there as

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much, in places like France or Belgium, or indeed Germany. I think

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that is certainly true. In fact people think that Theresa May during

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her time as Home Secretary tried to build-up better relations with

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ethnic communities within the UK. Different countries throughout

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Europe have different race relations, different underlying

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tensions between many communities. I think it is absolutely right to say

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that in some countries those links are not there. It doesn't exist in

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France, does it? In parts of Paris it just doesn't exist. The reason

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for that in many European countries as they don't believe in

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multiculturalism. We want to throw out the baby with the bathwater but

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one of the reasons we have such strong links between communities and

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between, you might call it, our institutions and minority

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communities is because people have a greater sense of fairness. We talk

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about this system no longer being fit for purpose, multiculturalism,

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but if we went to French or German way, things might be even worse. A

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hell of a lot worse. Which takes us to the other story on the front of

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the Financial Times, the European Court rules the indiscriminate mass

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surveillance law to be illegal. Some things we have been seen in the news

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suggest that tracking someone like this guy will be made much more

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difficult if this ECJ ruling stands. It is a tricky one. The proposal

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behind this law is it would allow authorities to track everyone's data

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and forced telecommunications companies to keep records for 12

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months of the websites every single Briton has visited, and their phone

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records. It has been judged to be too illiberal in that it is not

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targeted, it affects absolutely everyone, and in that way it is too

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general and indiscriminate. What is interesting is that with many of the

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terror suspect and proven terrorists in the last few years, the problem

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has not been that they were not flagged up, the authorities were

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tracking them with covert surveillance, but they slipped the

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net. I think there are arguments on both sides here about whether we

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need to have this dragnet that takes in the entire population. And what

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is fascinating about this story is that David Davies on the back bench,

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a champion of civil liberties, he brought this court case to the ECJ.

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He ducked out of it since he became a minister. And he has said the ECJ

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is not fit for purpose. He has moved on. And there is nothing wrong with

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that, David, if you are watching. And if every website we visited and

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all the data we have looked at was being tracked and held by all

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these... Don't look at me like I have been looking at dodgy website!

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By these organisations and telecommunication companies, the

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kind of institutions which will have access to this data, HMRC,

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intelligence agencies, the NHS, you were uncomfortable with this in the

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last hour, nor am I in this hour. We assume that everyone working for

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these organisations is untouchable, like Eliot Ness. But you can't trust

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everyone with this information. I think this is a really interesting

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story in the Guardian. Corbyn critic quits and triggers an election test

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for Labour. Jamie Reedy was a critic of Jeremy Corbyn and is standing

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down. He has had conflicts with Jeremy Corbyn over the nuclear

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issue. The by-election is the interesting thing, I think, because

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this will be a real test for Jeremy Corbyn and for Labour. And a test

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for UKIP as well, it is a fascinating seat, Copland, in the

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north-west. There are only about 2500 votes in it, it is very

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marginal. The Tories in second place and UKIP not very far behind. It is

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a golden opportunity for the Conservatives. It has been

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interesting today to see how people have come out. Labour has been on

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the defensive back foot. Conservatives have been quite

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bullish, saying this could be a golden ticket for them and many

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Labour MPs, perhaps trolling Jeremy Corbyn, have pointed out that this

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will be the first time since 1983 that the governing party has won a

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by-election when the main opposition party has resigned. I happen to be

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at Euston station earlier, and Paul muscle was buying a ticket to

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Copland. I made that up! But I would not be surprised if he is on a train

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up their pretty soon. And I hear that this was a Brexit constituency.

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Exactly, it makes it even more interesting. It is a test of Jeremy

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Corbyn's attitude towards Europe, and his Shadow Home Secretary's

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attitude towards the free movement of people. There are a number of

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people, not least the head of Unite, Len McCluskey, who would want to end

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free movement. This could be really bad for foreign Labour. When the

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Times cover this? A couple of months? It could be shorter than

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that. It is up to Labour to move the writ, but I think we could see it

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taking place in January -- what is the timetable to cover this. They

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could allow a longer lead time and allow their rivals time, less to get

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on with it. Very quickly, I wonder whether Jamie Reedy will be the

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last? There has been a lot of suggestion today it is a chicken

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run, others will start to fall. Most of us get a cold, we are laid out

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and it is no big deal. But the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh falling

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ill, it is front-page news. I thought this is kind of tricky,

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throne a sickie. It is quite amusing in a way. I suppose you can tell

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that arch royalist... We are only express now. Health scare for Queen

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and Philip. Yesterday or the day before we heard from Nicholas

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Witchell, the Queen is dropping her patronage of 25 major charities and

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people were saying does this mean she is going to start winding down?

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Even though she is in rude and robust health, she is 90. Even

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though they missed their usual getaway to Sandringham, at the

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moment they are staying firmly put in Buckingham Palace, which means

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they must be properly ill. You say properly ill, let's not cause anyone

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there to drop their cocoa or whiskey or whatever you have in your hand at

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the moment. Buckingham Palace says it is all fine. They will be

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travelling in a few days. And of course, Sandringham a very big part

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of Christmas for both of them. I just taken aback by what you just

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said, not proper ill, don't worry! It is a cold. So yes, it is the kind

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of thing which will be big news, considering he is 95 and the Queen

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herself is in her 90s. It is true, and it's interesting, because royal

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family worked like clockwork, it is such a tradition for them to go to

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Sandringham at this time of year. It reminds me how much they are part of

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the routine at Christmas. We are so used to the Royal Family, especially

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the Queen, doing the same thing, that it feels a real disruption of

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the norm. That is a good point, you get the turkey and open the presents

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and the Queen is at Sandringham. Now the sun have a headline on this, and

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I pooh-poohed this at the beginning, I have to say, but looking at it on

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reflection, it is not that bad. What do you think, throne a sickie? It is

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not too bad. We don't want to be flip with the Queen and Prince

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Philip having a cold but as someone who never throws a sticky... Are you

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suggesting, the implication from this headline, from the Sun, the

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most widely read paper in the country is that they are bonking off

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somehow? They just can't be bothered going to Sandringham this year? If

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they were genuinely concerned for the health of the royal couple, they

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would not be as flip is that. And the nation is reassured. It has been

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great having you in to look at the stories behind the headlines. Many

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