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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are political editor of the Sunday Mirror

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and Sunday People, Nigel Nelson and political commentator Jo

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Tomorrow's front pages starting with...

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The Observer says cancer patients are feeling the brunt of the NHS

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crisis, with operations being cancelled on a regular basis.

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The Mail on Sunday suggests cutting the foreign aid budget to fund

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It claims more than three quarters of voters support the idea.

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Meanwhile, on the same story, the Sunday Mirror has a picture

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of a 2-year-old girl it says had to sit on the floor for eight hours

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Theresa May's Brexit strategy is the Sunday Telegraph's focus.

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It says the PM is prepared to lead Britain out of the single market.

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The "Brexit Battle Plan" is how the Sunday Express put it,

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saying May is going to get tough with Brussels.

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And the Sunday Times carries an image of Prince William who it

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says will be leaving his position as an air-ambulance helicopter

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pilot, to pursue full-time royal duties.

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So those were some of the front pages. We will have a more in-depth

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look now and we will start off with the Sunday Times and discuss Brexit.

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This is... The Prime Minister will make a speech on Tuesday and there

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has been a bit of a briefing from number ten to the newspapers. We are

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led to believe that this is going to be heard aiding her cards on the

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table and it is very much a clean, hard exit which I think will in some

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way go to reassure the Eurosceptics and people who have been calling on

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her to be more decisive. It also, I think, shows that perhaps Boris

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Johnson is winning the argument about Britain leaving the customs

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union in order to secure control of immigration. But, you know, it will

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be interesting to see what the effective, on the financial markets.

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Do you think it could be shaky even in the leader? They call it a market

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correction. Darling Street staff expect her words to create a market

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correction. She is down to she doesn't damned if she doesn't. There

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has been a growing call for her to be far more clear about what it

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means and we are waiting for the Supreme Court judgement any minute

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now. We are. We are waiting for MPs to get a vote on it which will be

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interesting to see if they want to fiddle around with what is going on.

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For instance, Jeremy Corbyn says he is the bottomline is that we in the

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single market. How do you do that? Does he then vote against Article

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50? He said no. At some point, if it returns to Parliament you can bet

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your life that MPs will be trying to find a vehicle to hold this process

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up. I think we have gotten to a point where I'm not sure where

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Theresa May could have gone with his other than where we are at the

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moment. It was perfectly clear from Europe that free movement was not

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going to be messed around with so that ruled out a single market.

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Free-trade deals with the rest of the world meant, we want those, it

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meant that we were not going to get the customs union. I think her

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negotiating hand was won without any cards in it anyway. You can see we

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have reached a stage where, right, at least we know the direction that

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we are going in is hard Brexit. I think, also, Europe will be

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listening and watching very carefully on Tuesday. Already the

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Deputy Prime Minister of the Netherlands is saying that he will

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block any trade deal with the UK depending on Brexit, unless they

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sign up to tough tax avoidance. Nobody wants Britain to become a tax

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haven. They envision that possibility. And so it starts. We

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will get an awful lot more of this. This is one of the problems of

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laying out your position, things like this will happen. We have

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already seen today the chief Rex that negotiator worried now about

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the city of London and the impact it may have on the other 27 countries.

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All this, you see when things really start blowing it will get very

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difficult and very messy. And you are correct. The rest of Europe will

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be watching because they have elections coming up. French

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elections, Spanish elections. And we have Donald Trump moving into the

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White House in a few days time. It is all moving. It is really

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exciting, isn't it? At least it is moving now because there has been a

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lot of waiting. Let us move on to the Mirror. I think it is only right

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that you take us through this. Fraud in the NHS. We were looking for an

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image that sums up the worst crisis in 15 years in AMD is specially. We

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found it was a little girl who is two years old and was taken to

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hospital in Kent and she has severe asthma. There was no bed, she just

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had to be put on the floor with a blanket and that is what AMD has

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come to now over the winter crisis. This was a Sikh girl. She spent

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three days in hospital. They could not get her into a ward. She came in

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at 630 in the evening and did not get to a ward until 2:30 a.m. . It

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sums up just how bad things have become. We also do a poll in the

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paper where people are very generous about the NHS. They are talking

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about, look, happy to pay more tax if that money could be specifically

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earmarked for NHS. The government hates that kind of thing, they want

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our money and decide how best to spend it stop you can see that

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people are concerned enough about it, everyone knows that it needs

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more money, the question is how you get it. Here you have taxpayers

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coming up and saying we can help. It is also how you spend the money stop

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it is a lot more complicated than I just said. You could find a million

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pictures in hospitals around the country that are just as

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heart-wrenching and awful and tragic as this little girl. But where are

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the pictures of the other people in AMD and how did they get there?

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Should that happen? Of course it should end. But if you have a

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target, whether or not the person who needs to be out and a knee in

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front of this person... I take the point that you may find AMD

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cluttered with people who should not be there. We need to address that.

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The number of drunk people on a Saturday, for instance. It is a

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powerful image. The vision was that the NHS should be based on need

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rather than an ability to pay. I think now it is not about need it is

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about expectation and part of the problem is that we have an ageing

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population and people with more complicated illnesses that can be

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treated that 4050 years ago would have killed somebody. You have far

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greater sophisticated stuff even in things like eye surgery and things

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that can be done... That is the point. In 1948 when the NHS was

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founded, the average male life expectancy was 66. Now one in three

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children born today live to be 100. As a result we get more prevalent

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ageing diseases. The 1948 model worked wonderfully in 1948. The

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biggest problem is we have kept that model all the way through until now.

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It has been fiddled with at the edges but it has been kept. What we

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need is a complete rethink is the NHS is to be sustainable. That leads

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to our next piece. You would talking about diseases and the progress of

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medicine. The Observer talks about cancer operations where so many

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cancers now are treatable which means it is more pressure on the

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NHS. That model does not fit society today. Also the lives we lead and

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the diet we eat, some of this and the chair of the Health Select

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Committee was talking about this on radio today, she has been writing

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about it often. Some of it does come down to us and the responsibility we

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take for our own health. It is about diet and sensible living. It is also

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about the expectation that if you don't do anything and you smoke 500

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cigarettes a day and eat rubbish and you become overweight and put

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pressure on diabetes and everything else you, you can't just expect to

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rock up to AMD and have it fixed. Actually, it you might be doing that

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and that little girl is sitting on the floor. It is huge and I think

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there are hard questions that need to be addressed by politicians. One

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of them is to get some sensible evidence about why are people doing

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this. The government is now in a head-on collision course with GPs

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and do we know the shore. At the same time they are cutting funding

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to pharmacies who are huge first stop for many people and not used

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enough. It seems to me that their needs are better... A bit more of a

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cold and harder look at where the money goes. Do people over 60

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automatically need free pensions? Well, most of us will not be drawing

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pension until we are willing to our 60s. If we have one... On that

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cheery note we will go to to another story in the Observer and talk about

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senior British politicians including the ones named in this article such

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as Liam Fox and Warren Johnson being targeted from the Kremlin. This

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comes from a former Foreign Office Minister and in a sense this is

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obviously in the wake of what has been happening with Donald Trump but

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aimed at us. This is not actually knew. It is quite amusing to think

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of Russians chasing Boris Johnson around. It must be a dream job that

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they were hoping for because I am sure they would have a lot of fun.

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But, yes, what they are always looking for is compromising

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material. Not necessarily to blackmail somebody. It is often to

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find out more about them or whatever. Even those who are well

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disposed to Russia. And that is what the allegation is over Trump I am

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not entirely surprise, however, that the Russians have the Foreign

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Secretary and the International trade Secretary in their sights. It

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is not really astonishing. It is astonishing. If you publish --

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pitched this idea to a publisher or a television producer, if it had all

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the details, they would not take you seriously. It seems to me that we

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are now going back... We are having a lovely... A resurgence of the old

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cold war and spy movies. Meanwhile everybody puts everything that they

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do on Facebook or Twitter. Fake news. Kind of staying with Donald

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Trump here. Everything is fake news. That is negative. It is going

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further, now. A committee of MPs investigate. And, good. High time.

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What we have seen with what happened over Donald Trump is that these

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allegations all emerged back in October and no-one did anything with

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them until Buzzfeed put the document on its website. No newspaper or

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respectable media organisation would have done that. The BBC would not.

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So the whole storm is actually a story about a story and the question

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comes down to is there a way of regulating Facebook, Google, Twitter

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in the same way that the mainstream media is heavily regulated? That

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seems to be the question that emerges. This group of MPs want to

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investigate a sea of it as possible. I have always said that citizen

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journalism is an oxymoron because you are not a journalist unless you

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are a journalist. And as Nigel says and you know, you need to have your

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sources verified. The beginning of this, I think, was WikiLeaks. There

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was an awful lot of material and it fed into the particular political

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agenda. Fake news is far more popular. It is facilitated by social

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media. I will ask you, Joe, I tried to find you on Twitter tonight. And

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this is where fake news outlets access

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were there? Because I think it is a total waste of time and I don't

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particularly want to share my personal thoughts with... I will do

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it here and I will do with -- when I write. But I don't want other people

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to have contact with me. It is useful but, you know, you can still

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message and call people and you may tell them have you seen this story?

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And you are not exposed to fake news. The point you make is true.

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Once upon a time we all knew the National Enquirer was rubbish but

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now it looks reasonable because it is on the Internet. Thank you very

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much to the both of

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