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Everything is a bit late in tonight, so we will see how we can do! We

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will be taking a look at tomorrow's papers shortly, hopefully.

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Theresa May has refused to say whether she knew about a failed

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Trident missile test when MPs were voting to renew

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I have absolute faith in our Trident missiles -

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when I made that speech in the House of Commons what we were talking

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about was whether or not we should renew our Trident.

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Trade, Nato and Brexit are likely to be high on the agenda

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when the Prime Minister meets Donald Trump this Friday.

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President Trump and his White House team have launched a furious

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attack on the media, accusing them of lying

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about the size of the crowds at his inauguration on Friday.

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A court in Iran rejects an appeal against a five-year prison sentence

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given to a woman with dual British and Iranian citizenship accused

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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With us, broadcaster Natalie Haynes and Deputy political editor of the

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Independent Rob Merrick. Luckily I remembered where you both work

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because it was not written down on my autocue! We are starting so well.

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Are we dealing with plain facts tonight? Yes, plain facts. I am so

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glad! The Financial Times leads with more

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reaction to the Trump administration's hard line

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against what they are calling The i says the prime

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minister's post-Brexit plan The Daily Express has claims

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from a leading Brexit campaigner that up to a million EU migrants may

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head to the UK over The Metro says Theresa May is ready

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to challenge President Trump over sexist remarks when she meets him

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at the White House on Friday. The Telegraph says a free trade deal

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with the United States is likely to open the door to US jobs

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for British workers. The Times reports that rural

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enterprises will be the biggest losers in upcoming business rate

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rises in England. And the Daily Mail claims terrorists

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and criminals are able to travel to Britain without crossing border

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control because of a loophole Would you be surprised if I said we

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were going to start with Donald Trump? The Financial Times. Trump

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sets tone for presidency with attacked and dishonest media. We of

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course got to see that last night on the News Channel when that press

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conference took place, the press briefing. Sean Spicer, a man we will

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get to know the well, I am sure. An interesting press briefing. Yes,

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perhaps contrary to popular opinion what the spokesperson tries not to

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do in Britain is to live. They might not tell you the whole truth. The

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obscure the truth, of Christ -- not do in Britain is to li. They do not

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want to be caught lying because that is devastating and their reputation

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a shot. We will not have the same ability to speak to the media again

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-- the obscure the truth, of course. This person has walked in and told E

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Bald lie about the inauguration and I guess this is just the new

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reality. Kellyanne Conway, his adviser, you know, if you wanted to

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say it was the most watched inauguration, that is probably true

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because of the people watching online and on TV, but not

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necessarily there in person. Yes, an alternative two facts, I guess, like

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an alternative medicine. Once it has been tested, it is just medicine.

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That is the route they have gone with and it is a strange choice.

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Partly of course there is a vague sense of delight something so

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horrendous could happen. This press briefing, where it is not just one

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thing that has gone wrong but ten things. The National Parks hadn't

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given the numbers because they don't, the Metro at given numbers

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because something was wrong, it was the first time they put white stuff

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on the floor and that meant they had to be less people. Any screenwriter

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with tell you with the five excuses, it sounds a lot less convincing than

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it was before there is something compelling about watching somebody

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lie in that incredibly barefaced fashion except that anyone who has

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lived under an authoritarian regime will tell you, and indeed whether or

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not you want to believe them, you can suddenly go back to your George

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Orwell, that the trick of an authoritarian regime is to persuade

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people that even incredibly inane things, however many fingers he is

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holding up, reading it at school, even a benign thing you can be made

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to lie about, so you see four fingers but say five. Even just

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using the word lie makes me slightly anxious. Because we do not call it

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that, do we? We have a whole range of different words for it, but no

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people are becoming emboldened. This is not a great way for this

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relationship to have started. If press briefings are going to prevent

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journalists from asking questions, if -- there is already such a

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terrible breakdown between the White House and the media, but where to

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start. During the Iraq war Saddam have a spokesman who would stand up

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and help barefaced lies about how Iraqi troops were about to defeat

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the Americans and of course he got a nickname, Comical Ali. What you are

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right. As a starting point between Trump and the press, you would think

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it would be disastrous, but of course Trump boasts of that, his

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millions of Twitter followers, he will carry on with that and he hopes

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to community directly with them in a way that combines the traditional

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media which has left rates than it used to. Sorry to have Cotten,

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Twitter users number about 16% of people in the UK and I guess it is

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roughly similar in the USA -- sorry to have cut in. Quite a small

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minority of people. The piece that stood out for me today was that long

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post put out by the great American elder statesman of American

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broadcasting, basically saying that the Washington press corps better

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get its act together and that they need to be challenging. If they are

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not getting answers from the White House they need to challenge other

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Republicans and they need to ask those questions over and over again.

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I think a lot of us thought that with Donald Trump's press conference

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a couple of weeks ago when he shut down CNN. It was CNN, wasn't it? And

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I know it goes against the grain for journalists to band together as

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opposed to a skidding each other but the right thing for the next person

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to do was to ask this CNN question and if they do not band together it

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will be divide and rule -- as opposed to out-scooping each other.

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I think a scientist today said journalists need to teach people to

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think critically. If you are cut off that is very difficult, as you say,

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so it needs to be a collective effort. But it is forensic stuff,

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being dog-eared, keep asking that same question. And we are often very

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quick to decry war on another type of news organisation, this is fake

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news, these ones are OK, this one is bad, but across the board this

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morning American broadcast media were criticising, even Fox News,

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they were seeing, these are not lies. I wonder how unhelpful the

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Buzzfeed reports were, because did into anybody's Hans? He could see it

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is fake news put out to discredit me. That does not help of a

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journalists, does it? I think you're probably right. To publish those

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allegations when he couldn't be proved, yes, it gave him some

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ammunition to say, look at this, they cannot prove it. Another thing

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that gets to me about today's events, the worrying thing, not

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stepping away from his relationship with the press, it is just his

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priorities. You mentioned his visit to the CIA yesterday and I read

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about that on the way in and of course he has had this bust up with

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the intelligence services... He says he holds them in incredibly high

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regard. But also it was just a bizarre ramble. The whole speech,

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going into... Getting into the crowds, how much they loved him, how

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wonderful it was, speaking about the fact it had stopped raining, when it

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hadn't... His mindset, it seems to be that, doesn't it, people love me,

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a success, fantastic? He is still running a campaign, isn't he?

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Instead of focusing on other things. Not realising he has won. Not

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governing. Let's look at the Metro. It is interesting how journalists

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will have to deal with this new way of governing. The Metro. This is the

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claim that Theresa May will say the difficult things she needs to see if

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she feels it is appropriate. I'm no Pussycay, challenging things Donald

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Trump has said that our offensive. But she has to get the deal for

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trade and Nato and the really serious things? Go for it. I was

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going to say, I think there are a few things in the question, before

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she got to the point where she said she would not be afraid to challenge

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Donald Trump. Do we really think she will sit in the Oval Office with

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Donald Trump and speak about his misbehaviour? She might do, but the

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thing is what we think is a robust sort of approach gets somewhat

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piloted in diplomatic language, necessarily, doesn't it? -- gets

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somewhat diluted. And we have to bear in mind that Americans think

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that about the British anyway. They think we spend our whole time

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apologising and drinking tea, that is our whole thing. They basically

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think we are Dowton Abbey. So she will be, who, Maggie Smith? A lovely

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completely baffling women from another universe as opposed to a

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relevant one, our best scenario. Trump said she would be his Margaret

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Thatcher. Again, you start to not believe anything in the end. Perhaps

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he believes that but the fact of the matter remains we are really little

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country in relation to them and they see us as a sort of occasionally

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adorable but sometimes irritating, you know, ancient aunt. But we might

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be in for a decent trade deal. The Daily Telegraph saying it will open

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the door to US jobs? As the door closes on the EU the open on

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opportunities in the States? Does my face betray my attitude to that? It

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does, I am afraid. Do you know about the chlorine and the chickens? Is

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this some sort of code message? LAUGHTER

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The myth is the EU did not want, or did not try hard enough to sign a

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free-trade deal with America, and we will try harder and get one and we

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will be incredibly rewarded, but one of reasons why the reported trade

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deal with the EU collapsed is because the EU does not want to do

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everything America wants it to do in a so-called free trade deal and that

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means to accept much more environmental standards that they

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have in America, much lower food safety standards... Which is how we

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get to the chlorine and the chickens? Anyone who has eaten that

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in America says it is terrible, full of sugar, and the outgoing Vice

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President Joe Biden says he is not going to sign anything not wanted by

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the chicken farmers in Delaware. The fact is they are to lazy to worry

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about food standards all the way down the line to the supermarket

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shelf like we do in Britain. That is a very big claim. I heard it from a

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top politician. What they do is sit these chickens in chlorine, in

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bleach, then send them out and they eat that in America X Factor I am

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not saying chickens is the biggest part of a potential trade deal but I

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think it is indicative of the sort of thing we might be persuaded,

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forced, to do, to accept much lower standards in Britain than the

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currently accepted cause we are so desperate to sign a trade deal with

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Trump -- then they eat them in America. I am not saying. My

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apologies if you are a chicken reader!

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LAUGHTER -- chicken-rearer. I am delighted

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not to eating chicken for 29 years, all I can say. The i exclusive,

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Theresa May's plan to reboot British industry. How will this happen? She

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is taking the cabinet out of London on an away day, to Warrington, run

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to get across the point I suppose it is not all that London. And the idea

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that she has other ideas to remake the country, not all about Brexit.

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Completely separate to the European debate and tomorrow is the turn of

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changing our traditional focus on the universities above all else and

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trying to create a higher skilled workforce for the post Brexit

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challenges ahead. Very good, Robert. I was not supposed to ask you about

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that story, was it? LAUGHTER

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It is very good. I threw that at you with no warning and off UN! Let's

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deal with the ?40 billion question of the Trident cover-up as well.

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Entirely my fault. -- off you went. This was in the newspapers last

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night. Why did Parliament not know? Why were they not told? This missile

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that went slightly astray. Always a phrase you want to hear, isn't it?

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In close proximity to the word missile, slightly astray! Towards

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America. In any direction would have been bad! America, that would

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obviously have been particularly embarrassing with her going there

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this week but it would have of course been bad going in any

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direction whatsoever, I would suggest! This do these tests, to

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find out. Why should we be too concerned? They will work out what

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was wrong with the telemetry. We are setting the bar quite low for things

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we would like to go right! On the BBC, I heard them declare it as a

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success, the MoD! Did I hear that? They have absolute confidence in the

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system. As far as everyone voted to buy new and more expensive ones

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which probably will not go astray. Probably why they are ?40 billion.

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Time and we do these tests every three or four mag years, so we have

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not done another one since. -- and we do these tests. An extraordinary

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situation. I do not know how many people watched that this morning but

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Andrew Marr, he had her squirming, Theresa May. Her refusal to answer

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the question came back to bite her and she looked very shifty. Four or

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five times she refused to say whether she knew this Trident launch

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had misfired. Doing what we all have to do, keep asking the question! If

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you want to stay healthy, don't Brown to coast, although the Daily

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Telegraph says it is a row over brown toast and crispy roast potato

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cancer. What is the problem? What are we not meant to do now? We are

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meant to have lovely golden toast and not crispy brown toast and

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lovely golden potatoes rather than brown and crunchy ones because of

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carcinogens when everything is crunchy. Do feel free to note the

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Times headline does not say what you should have is non-brown toast,

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which more of us know by its more ordinary name, bread. And your

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potatoes cannot be too fluffy because it creates more of a surface

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area? And no crisps either. Oh, dear. I had a crispy roast potatoes

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I have ever had and they were also the nicest so I do not think that

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will change. I think we all treat these cancer stories with a pinch of

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salt. A pinch of salt! If that is not too unhealthy. Oh, dear, let's

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have a bag of crisps. Before you go, these

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front pages have come -- Don't forget, all the front pages

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are online on the BBC News website where you can read a detailed review

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of the papers. It's all there for you, seven days

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a week, at bbc.co.uk/papers, and you can see us there too,

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with each night's edition of the Papers been posted

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on the page shortly Now it's time for Meet the Author,

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and Jim Naughtie talks

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