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You can have a drink, it's OK. Don't spill it. Maybe put it down.

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We'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers

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First, the headlines at 11:30pm: Theresa May has refused

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to say whether she knew about a failed

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Trident missile test when MPs were voting to renew

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I have absolute faith in our Trident missiles.

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When I made that speech in the House of Commons,

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what we were talking about was whether or not we should

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Trade, Nato and Brexit are likely to be high on the agenda

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when the Prime Minister meets Donald Trump this Friday.

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President Trump and his White House team have launched a furious attack

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on the media, accusing them of lying about the size of the crowds

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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are the broadcaster, Natalie Haynes, and Rob Merrick,

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deputy political editor at the Independent.

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Starting with, which is it? The FT. Thank you.

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The Financial Times leads with more reaction to the Trump

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administration's hard line against what it is calling

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The i says the prime minister's post-Brexit plan is to reboot

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The Daily Express has claims from a leading Brexit campaigner

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that up to a million EU migrants may head to the UK over

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The Metro says Theresa May is ready to challenge President Trump over

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sexist remarks when she meets him at the White House on Friday.

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The Telegraph says a free trade deal with the United States is likely

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to open the door to US jobs for British workers.

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The Times reports that rural enterprises will be the biggest

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losers in upcoming business rate rises in England.

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And the Daily Mail claims terrorists and criminals are able to travel

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to Britain without crossing border control because of a loophole

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Not Trump, but Trident, I don't know if it makes you any happier, he

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ridges on the Daily Mirror, tried and failure cover-up, May's missile

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crisis - she was asked quite a few times by Andrew Marr whether she

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knew about the failed test. This was the standout story from this

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morning, of course, in the Sunday Times, the argument about Trident

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revolving around the enormous cost, whether it increases or decreases

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the nuclear Armageddon - we never argue about whether they work or

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not, but apparently they are carried out every four years, the last one

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was in June and, according to the paper, the missile went in the wrong

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direction, headed for America, and of course no one was told about it.

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Then parliament voted to renew Trident in a contentious vote in

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ignorance of the fact that allegedly Trident didn't work in the test one

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month earlier, and the Prime Minister was accused of keeping the

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information from parliament. Anyone who saw Andrew Marr this morning,

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she looked very uncomfortable and declined to answer the question, can

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only assume she knew and get the information from parliament. Or she

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didn't know and she should have known. So many ways to interpret it.

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It wasn't armed, it didn't hit anybody. You have set the bar quite

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low. Yes, the good news is there was no warhead when it went wrong and it

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only veered off towards Florida. And who ever goes to a theme park?

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Hardly anyone. Certainly never any children. According to the Guardian,

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it was supposed to go in the direction of West Africa, which

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apparently we don't care about at all. No one comes out of this

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covered in glory, do they, least of all Theresa May, because failing to

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answer a question four times in a row, a direct individual doesn't

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know the question, it makes you look shifty, you can't go, look over

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there, you have to have a defence strategy. The Guardian has a similar

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title, May accused of covering up Trident failure, MPs calling for

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full disclosure before the critical vote. It doesn't take place because

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these tests are expensive, are they not? ?17 million per test. They have

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to carry them out to make sure hopefully everything is all right.

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Apparently, ordinarily, not many people know about it. There are sort

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of confidential matters, we are talking about a nuclear weapons.

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According to the Sunday Times, the last test carried out in 2012 was

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given great prominence I MoD, producing video of the test, wanting

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to advertise to the world that it needs to be taken seriously, so when

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it work they had the works with publicity, and when it didn't, it

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was hushed up. That sounds like North Korea. I am not sure it would

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have changed votes in the House of Commons, most conservative MPs are

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very keen on Trident and wouldn't have been persuaded by the fact that

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one had malfunctioned. It shows her inexperience this morning. You can

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make the case she doesn't need to go on national TV and talk in detail

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about national security, at least she could have used it as a reason

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for not giving a straight answer, but she didn't do that, she didn't

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say that, instead she tried to pretend the question wasn't for

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times, it almost implying that the vote that took place at month later

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was irrelevant to the vote. I think it did make it look a little less

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nonse. Will it reopened the discussion at about the Trident

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renewal, because there is bound to be a push for that? You would hope

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so, but I think you are probably right that there is such a majority

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of MPs who are keen to stick with Trident, that even though the Leader

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of the Opposition of course is famously antinuclear in all its

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forms and has been for its whole career, I think it will make no

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difference whatsoever, I think the numbers will be that even if the

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numbers were out before the vote, I suspect. The best system of its kind

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today. It is like there is no such thing as a full system. The other

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thing about Trident is a currently the software is based on Windows XP.

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LAUGHTER Hopefully they can sort that out. They have the abacus...

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That is fine. Oh, dear, move on. Let's talk about the Prime Minister,

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but this time her visit to see Donald Trump on Friday. The Times

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says, make them fight for free trade as Trump's first visitor, though she

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might not have much fight on our hands if she is the preferred

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trading partner. Well, the first foreign leader to visit it him, so

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presumably she feels at the front of the queue. When Obama said, we will

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be at the back of the queue if we vote to leave, and we will be very

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angry, and Boris Johnson impugned him over it, and now Donald Trump is

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literally putting her at the very front of the queue, so maybe she

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won't have to fight quite so hard. I think the trouble is that we are

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quite a small country relative to the US and I think we export more

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than we import, although I might be wrong. You are wrong. And my? You

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are. I am glad to help. You couldn't let it slide, could you? I could

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have said it more politely. In that case, they would like us better than

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we like them, I don't think so. We are little and they are quite big.

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At the moment of course, the EU is the much bigger trading partner for

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us than the United States. Not likely to be replaced, is it, on

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that scale? Definitely not. I think what must worry lots of people in

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Britain is this is presented as a great coup the Prime Minister to be

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seen by Donald Trump, and of course it would be true if it was a normal

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president, but this is not a normal president, Donald Trump is a

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monster. Oh, dear, I don't think I can let that pass. I think it makes

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him sound inhuman. Hmm, OK. Poor, lovely monsters. Everything that we

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have been told about the PM's trip and how desperate we are to sign a

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free-trade deal says she won't go in and stand up to her, she won't go in

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and say she wants to deal with him on accepted values in this country,

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or on this continent, but to fall at his feet, to kowtow... That is a

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great word. One example of how policy has changed because of Donald

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Trump, last month, alongside America, led by Obama, Britain voted

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against Israel's settlements in Palestine at the UN and condemned

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Israel. It was then made known by the Trump team how displeased they

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were, and they tried for the vote to dissuade Britain from voting that

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way and they made no interest how unhappy they were a low and behold a

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couple of days later Britain makes a speech condemning Trump's policy

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towards Israel, so we displeased Trump, we were given a stern telling

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off, and I think we said it won't happen again. Policy towards Israel

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is changing because of how desperately we want to cuddle up

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with Trump. It says it might open up the door to US jobs. Will we get

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jobs as Brits in America? 1 million each way, isn't it, 1 million Brits

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in the US and 1 million Americans working in Britain, apparently, and

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the theory is we could have even more of those things so that the

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Telegraph says, either in -- I don't have my glasses, so I could be

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making it up. The average age of someone who reads the Telegraph,

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surely they need spectacles. A bright light and a magnifying glass.

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I wish I was here late Jessica Fletcher. There is, 1 million

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Americans, I can read it. The Daily Mail has a much bigger font. That is

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what I need. Let's move over to that, terrorist fast train to

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Britain. Security flaws allow anyone to get to the UK without a passport.

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How? An interesting story, anyone on the Eurostar would remember that you

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go through very strict audit checks in Brussels before you leave Belgium

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rather than when you get to Britain -- border checks. What it says here

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is if you get on in Brussels and say to them, you are only going to the

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next stop, which is Lille in France, within the Schengen zone, which

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doesn't require a border check, you can say you are going to Lille and

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stay on all of the way to the UK and evade all of the checks between

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Belgium and the UK, which the Daily Mail says is a risk in terms of

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terrorists and criminals being able to exploit the loophole. It says at

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the bottom of the front page that the Lille loophole was closed when

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it was revealed in 2011, then it says turn to Page four. Surely, you

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can't - can't someone check your ticket to realise your ticket only

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goes as far as Lille? I know this because I got the train about two

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weeks ago from Brussels to London and they check your ticket when you

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get on at Brussels and you go through customs at Brussels but I

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would be astonished if many people travel from Brussels to Lille by

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that mechanism because trains are irregular and they go every two

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hours, and you have to go through all of our security when you could

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just get the local train service, the B trains, so I would be

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surprised, but it isn't the same as not being able to, so I can see why

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the Mail thought it was a good story to splash. It was highlighted five

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years ago and nothing has happened in the interim. Let's look at the

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Sun, official warning, you have had your chips, boffins, and Ross is in

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the gallery tonight, he hates that word, along with geeks. Linking

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fries with cancer, why is that? The question, the food standards

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authority has begun a campaign to persuade us we should stop having

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superbrand roast -- Succop -- super browned potatoes and darker toast.

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They have to tell you that the professor for the Understanding of

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Risk, something like that at Cambridge, pointed out that there is

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little evidence and we should perhaps feel less anxious about

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things. I think the tests were done on mice, and I don't want to shock

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anybody, they are less keen to consume roast potatoes than, for

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example, Nick? Yes, I think so. -- me? I have never seen mice eating

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pizza or toast. That is it for the papers tonight.

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Don't forget all the front pages are online on the BBC News website

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where you can read a detailed review of the papers.

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It's all there for you, seven days a week, at BBC.co.uk/papers,

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and you can see us there too, with each night's edition

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of The Papers being posted on the page shortly

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Natalie and Rob, thank you and see you again soon. Goodbye for now.

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