26/01/2017 The Papers


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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are the business academic Melanie Eusebe

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and the Daily Mirror's Head of Politics, Jason Beattie.

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Let's take a look at those front pages. Most of the focus so far has

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been on Theresa May's speech this evening to Republicans in

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Philadelphia. That is ahead of her meeting with Donald Trump at the

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White House tomorrow afternoon. The Telegraph highlights her pledge

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never to repeat what she called the failed policies of Tony Blair and

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George W Bush. He was the last Republican president. The Metro

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describes the two leaders as the odd couple. The Express says the Brexit

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boom and the surge in share prices has given pensions of huge boost

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with annual pay-outs at their highest for nearly a decade. The

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Guardian has more on their big meeting tomorrow, with a photograph

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of Theresa May, highlighting her assertion that she can forge a

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strong personal relationship with the new president because opposites

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attract. The tie focuses on President Trump's policy towards his

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neighbours. The Daily Mirror gives its front page over to the news

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about Rory McGrath, who today admitted stalking a former lover.

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I think we will probably be guided by the front pages tomorrow morning.

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Let's begin with the Metro. Melanie Eusebe, the odd couple, you are from

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another of those neighbours of the United States, Canada - do you think

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they're and odd couple, or is there some kind of ideological corner

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which has emerged? They certainly are an odd couple. Theresa May

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again, she mentioned the fact that she is the daughter of a vicar.

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Schumacher emphasised that in her speech. However, on the other hand

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she also said that we do share the same values as countries as well as

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leaders. In terms of the belief in liberty and hard work and those

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typical conservative values. Yes, acknowledging the difference but

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saying that we can form a new partnership together. Looking at the

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next front page, the message coming across, with the Guardian again

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saying, opposites attract. Issue making the best of a bad lot, Jason

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Beattie, or do you think her team thinks there is a journey or

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something that they can work with? Let's go back one step first. Should

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she have gone at all? The fact she's the first world leader, it is seen

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by some as a great coup. And the Brexiteers are loving it, thinking,

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not only is she the first to meet the new president, but she could be

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the first to get a new trade deal. And others are saying, is it looking

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a little bit needy? Is she fawning, is this an act of desperation? I

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think her speech was actually quite canny. It was a difficult hand to

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play. Because obviously much about Trump, maybe she could have been a

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bit stronger on some of this. Theresa May we know is quite prim,

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as we said, the daughter of a vicar, and he's a very brash reality star

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billionaire who has made some pretty unpleasant it's about winning. And

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she has taken the issue of sexual exportation very seriously when she

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was at the Home Office. For in terms of the big geopolitical stuff, I

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thought she was quite careful. Sum nudges to trump, saying, look, Nato

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IS important. Don't be fooled by Vladimir Putin on the importance of

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the United Nations. The bit I find difficult is the message about

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shared values. Because I'm not sure Donald Trump HAS any values. And

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this way we kind of play up the special relationship. If you listen

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to various American presidents over the last 30 years, as I have done,

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they talk about the special relationship, and the enduring

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relationship, and the lasting relationship, or the historic

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relationship. We have taken the special relationship as ours. I

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think we over-hype it. That is what really worries me. Very interesting

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parallel, the number of the papers, and it is in her speech itself,

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Margaret Thatcher really have the back of her mind, she wants that

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kind of relationship. This is how the Huffington Post has it - is that

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how she will be seen, do you think, in North America, because she's a

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woman and leading Britain? I think that inadvertently, she was always

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going to be compared to Margaret Thatcher. The circumstances in which

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they came to office were also similar. However, I agree with you,

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I think the speech was very, very smart. It demonstrated strength in

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the areas where I think we needed to see strength, however it was also

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almost an olive branch in regards to acknowledging some of those shared

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values. I think Donald Trump has spoken of values like patriotism and

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nationalism and national pride. Nationalism, in the speech, not as

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an excuse, strikingly, to disengage from the world. You have still got

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to be a leader in the world, you can't just back off, it was a

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striking challenge to America? I think it was a conflicted message.

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The one line saying, we are not going to repeat the mistakes of Bush

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and Blair and intervene in countries. And in the, but nor are

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we going to stand back if there is a threat. And then she says, we must

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go on and tackle Daesh in the Middle East. You're thinking, hang on, none

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of these go together as one argument! I don't think she fully

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resolved that. But I think she did a good job in of resolving it. She

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indicated, we are not going to make these countries in our own image. I

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come back to this, what image is this any more?! Is this the Trump

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image or is this a British image? We do not know what the Trump image is,

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is it the snarling, repugnant, nationalistic in the worst sense

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president? Theresa May was still trying to cling onto this kind of

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traditional partnership. I'm not sure that's entirely possible. What

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do you think then, on that point, about the suggestion of what kind of

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relationship we might have with Donald Trump, it is almost kind of

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crude, it is a business relationship when he said, business deals, trade

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deals, 30 days termination contract clause. Will any country really by

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up to that just to get a deal with the United States? I think that

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Donald Trump will have a sad, rude awakening in regards to negotiation,

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international negotiation. I don't think that's possible, quite

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friendly. However, I think it's more bravado. It really is. I am not by

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any means a person who has voted for Donald Trump. However, I think

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there's a lot about drawing a line in the sand and working towards it,

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rather than it being, let's just trade and have a good time! There

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aren't many jokes out of the stories which are around, but this cartoon

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is always one which makes you stop and think, by Matt. We were looking

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for some light relief! And we've now got these MPs walking from the House

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of Commons chamber, going, I'm just saying, triggering Article 50 would

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be a lot easier if we could torture the Romanians. Obviously, the

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reference to the problems back home about Article 50, and Donald Trump's

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comments about torture, coats, absolutely works. Theresa May on the

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plane out today, said, yes, I will raise torture with him. And if he

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says, look, if our intelligence sharing with America is based on

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them using torture, then that relationship collapses. Now, the

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fundamental relationship we have with America before Donald Trump, we

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had unprecedented security and defence relationship. And then we

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had opposition as America chose leading voice within the European

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Union. Should be of those pillars are in danger of collapsing. And

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what about the fundamentals of our special relationship? Yet again, it

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illustrates how beautifully political her speech was. The towing

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the line in regards to Brexit, and she has been towing the line quite

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well, and she did so with this one. However, the reality is, the two

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positions are untenable. If Donald Trump is saying, water boarding is

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permissible, let's fight fire with fire... You would have to change the

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law in America before you could even contemplate it. Exactly. Quite

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frankly, it would take years for us to untangle that. It is untenable.

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It reminds me of our exit struggle right now. Mexican stand-off. Neat

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headline from the i on a less than neat relationship. Let's end on the

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New York Times, Jason. This interesting piece on the front page

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- freshening policy from random Twitter posts. Is this going to be

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the shape of things to come for the next four years? Members of his

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staff in the White House are saying, these can carry on tweeting. They

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say this is his way of getting the message across, because he does not

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trust the mainstream media. People like myself, obviously, we just

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report alternative facts. The cleverness of Trump is the way he

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uses Twitter as a distraction. So, bad news comes along, and you find

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him tweeting what looks random but probably is purpose about a TV show,

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or the ratings of the Apprentice. And so we all look at that, and we

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are not looking over there. It is quite frightening. Melanie Eusebe

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and Jason Beattie, we are out of time, unfortunately. That's The

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Papers tonight. You can see the front pages online on the BBC News

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website. If you missed any of this evening's programme, you can watch

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it later on the iPlayer. My thanks to Melanie Eusebe and Jason Beattie.

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