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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
With me are journalist, writer and broadcaster Agnes Poirier | :00:19. | :00:22. | |
and the Economics Editor of The Independent Ben Chu. | :00:23. | :00:24. | |
No prizes for guessing the story on all of tomorrow's front | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
It is the visit to America by Theresa May. Many of the papers show | :00:28. | :00:42. | |
the picture of Theresa May and double trap holding hands. | :00:43. | :00:50. | |
Many of the papers show the picture of Donald Trump and Theresa May | :00:51. | :00:54. | |
holding hands with the words "love at the White House." | :00:55. | :00:56. | |
The hand holding also features on the Mirror's front page | :00:57. | :00:58. | |
which describes the meeting as something of a love-in. | :00:59. | :00:59. | |
The Guardian calls it the new special relationship and suggests | :01:00. | :01:04. | |
Theresa May has been reassured by President Trump and several key | :01:05. | :01:05. | |
issues. The Telegraph refers to Donald Trump | :01:06. | :01:08. | |
and Theresa May as the happy couple who have shown that | :01:09. | :01:12. | |
opposites attract. The Times signals Trump's praise for | :01:13. | :01:22. | |
exit and shows him pointing at the bust of Winston Churchill, now | :01:23. | :01:22. | |
reinstated in the Oval Office. The Independent's headline mentions | :01:23. | :01:26. | |
President Trump's backing of Brexit and the confirmation Theresa May | :01:27. | :01:29. | |
said she was given that he backs And the FT regards the meeting | :01:30. | :01:31. | |
as a success, saying Trump hands May the promise | :01:32. | :01:37. | |
of 'stronger' special relationship. The Sun has its own | :01:38. | :01:44. | |
exclusive about three students at Harrow public school | :01:45. | :01:47. | |
who are believed to have collapsed All right. Let's begin. It was | :01:48. | :02:01. | |
almost a complete set, wasn't it? Only be sun broke rank with their | :02:02. | :02:04. | |
front page. Let's start with the Daily Mail and the head line the | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
love in at the White House. The pictures of the handholding, the arm | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
around the back and everything. The mood of it was fairly good or were | :02:15. | :02:19. | |
you not really surprised at all, Agnes, about this? It looks as if | :02:20. | :02:23. | |
the British press wants us all to blush when actually all I felt was | :02:24. | :02:33. | |
mortified. The haste in which Theresa May, just after he was | :02:34. | :02:37. | |
elected, she couldn't get to him on the phone, and actually he was very | :02:38. | :02:43. | |
quick to meet Nigel Farage on the hub of the British people. Now she | :02:44. | :02:48. | |
says, thank you so much for having me so soon at the White House and it | :02:49. | :02:52. | |
sounds so desperate. And indeed, sounds so desperate. And indeed, | :02:53. | :02:56. | |
is a trade deal now because of is a trade deal now because of | :02:57. | :02:59. | |
Brexit. So we had of course words about the special relationship but | :03:00. | :03:02. | |
we've had that for decades if not centuries. I don't know. Then the | :03:03. | :03:12. | |
's side. She is above all this. So 's side. She is above all this. So | :03:13. | :03:17. | |
don't bring having. What do you think? You say Brexit but those in | :03:18. | :03:24. | |
favour of Brexit with a sensible? This is the first full week of | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
Donald Trump's presidency and by any rational standard it has been a | :03:30. | :03:32. | |
complete disaster. Any hope that he would become more presidential, | :03:33. | :03:36. | |
become more restraint have been out the window. Talking about trade | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
wars, insulting people, relations breaking down all over the place. | :03:41. | :03:44. | |
Pathological lying has come through. Then for the British Prime Minister | :03:45. | :03:48. | |
had to go here and as Agnes says tries to be depressed of this man is | :03:49. | :03:54. | |
a very high risk minibar. -- tries to be the best friend of this man. | :03:55. | :04:00. | |
If he carried on in this vein, these pictures of Theresa May holding | :04:01. | :04:04. | |
hands with him a welder, millstone around her neck that not only have | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
about the country will struggle to live down. Do you not think you is | :04:09. | :04:12. | |
likely tone things down during that period is today though? Well, by his | :04:13. | :04:18. | |
own standards, yes, he appeared restrained, but what does that mean? | :04:19. | :04:23. | |
There is all this new special relationship but can we believe what | :04:24. | :04:27. | |
he says? Nope. This is one thing one day and another another day. This | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
thing about Nato. It used to be obsolete and now she, that is the | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
biggest news today, she managed to say, as you told me, Mr President, | :04:39. | :04:42. | |
you told me you were backing Nato 100%. But we haven't heard him say | :04:43. | :04:46. | |
this. A lot of the analysts were saying that was perhaps the most | :04:47. | :04:50. | |
important thing that was said. The Daily Telegraph with the headline | :04:51. | :04:55. | |
their hand-in-hand, the happy couple. Again, the handholding has | :04:56. | :05:01. | |
it. Towards the end of the article there, that note that Theresa May | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
said that Donald Trump had said he was 100% behind Nato and that hold | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
Nato issue has been very much a hot potato. He gave an interview to | :05:12. | :05:14. | |
Michael Gove in the Times a couple of weeks ago and said that Nato was | :05:15. | :05:19. | |
obsolete. Picking up on a theme that he ran with very strongly in his | :05:20. | :05:25. | |
campaign that they basically believe the countries in Nato don't pay | :05:26. | :05:28. | |
enough for their defence. Theresa May have gone there and said in this | :05:29. | :05:32. | |
press conference that you agreed in our previous meeting that you were | :05:33. | :05:38. | |
backing Nato 100% but he didn't say that himself. These words didn't | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
come out of the mouth of the president of the United States. He | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
had every opportunity to say, yes, I agree with that, but he didn't say | :05:47. | :05:49. | |
that. There is a degree of false conflict being drawn that he backs | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
Nato 100% because he didn't say it. But earlier and we had a | :05:56. | :05:58. | |
British-based republican former adviser who was saying, do you not | :05:59. | :06:01. | |
think they discussed he was going to say what before they walked out | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
there? That was her view, that it was all carefully stage-managed. It | :06:06. | :06:11. | |
looked quite awkward. She was really walking on eggshells and anybody in | :06:12. | :06:17. | |
her shoes would. With Donald Trump, the problem is you don't believe | :06:18. | :06:24. | |
anything he says. I'm getting the feeling that neither of you are big | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
fans at this point. Let me put it to you, if either -- if other European | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
leaders had been offered to go first, they would have gone? Well, | :06:34. | :06:39. | |
it didn't happen. I'm not sure Angela Merkel would have done | :06:40. | :06:43. | |
actually. She doesn't seem desperate, doesn't act as if she is | :06:44. | :06:48. | |
desperate and is not desperate. She will be on the frame to him | :06:49. | :06:51. | |
tomorrow, so we'll Francois Hollande and so will Vladimir Putin. I do | :06:52. | :06:57. | |
hope they don't rush to Washington. They will, along with other world | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
leaders, the heartened to hear the 100% support for Nato. And the 100% | :07:03. | :07:09. | |
support of Brexit as well, of course. Donald Trump is not a normal | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
presidency. The way he conducts himself, the people he has | :07:15. | :07:18. | |
appointed, the whole setup is not typical and we simply do not know at | :07:19. | :07:22. | |
this stage what a commitment from Donald Trump to something like Nato | :07:23. | :07:26. | |
or a Mexican wall, whether this actually means anything. Can we | :07:27. | :07:31. | |
trust what he says? Does he even believe or understand what he's | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
saying. We could talk about torture. He said he has appointed somebody | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
who doesn't believe in torture say we will go with him, but personally | :07:41. | :07:46. | |
as the president of the United States, I do think I believe in | :07:47. | :07:52. | |
torture. Something we have never heard before. That is something | :07:53. | :07:55. | |
which is not normal for the president. It is very difficult to | :07:56. | :08:00. | |
judge him by what he says. Playing devils advocate again, we are always | :08:01. | :08:06. | |
criticising politicians for not giving their honest opinion. You | :08:07. | :08:09. | |
could argue that at least he was being honest about it? I suppose if | :08:10. | :08:14. | |
you wanted to burn something positive to say. I am going to | :08:15. | :08:19. | |
struggle with you to to get that. It is frightening times. It is almost | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
comic, a lot of what is going on but it is also incredibly serious at the | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
same time. And quite sad to see Britain playing that card because it | :08:30. | :08:34. | |
might really not get them where they wanted to. Time Will Powell on that. | :08:35. | :08:38. | |
Let's stay with the same story a different angle -- time will tell on | :08:39. | :08:46. | |
that. Let's move to the Financial Times, Trump hands made the promise | :08:47. | :08:51. | |
of a stronger special relationship. But also talk about Russia. There is | :08:52. | :08:56. | |
to be a phone call tomorrow between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump. I'd | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
love to be a fly on the wall. Absolutely. I'm sure other people | :09:02. | :09:07. | |
will be listening in, because the Russian -- if the Russian secret | :09:08. | :09:10. | |
service reputation is anything to go by. This is one of the key | :09:11. | :09:15. | |
relationships. People talk about Britain and the US but Russia and | :09:16. | :09:20. | |
the US, Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump, given all the insinuations | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
about compromise, what they might have on Donald Trump himself, how is | :09:25. | :09:32. | |
he going to behave towards Russia? If he is friendly towards them, that | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
will only add to the sense that he is somehow compromised. But he | :09:38. | :09:42. | |
didn't shy away from this very interesting and quite worrying line | :09:43. | :09:46. | |
that he has had which is that I don't know Vladimir Putin, I want to | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
have a good relationship with him. When the American military and | :09:51. | :09:53. | |
diplomatic immunity are very clear that Russia is not a friend of the | :09:54. | :09:59. | |
United States. It is a hostile power and that they do not, they think | :10:00. | :10:05. | |
there are grave dangers is getting too close. It's like torture. The | :10:06. | :10:10. | |
president disagrees with his generals. The big question is | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
sanctions. To be fair to Theresa May, I think she did say they are | :10:17. | :10:20. | |
sticking with sanctions. She thought held her ground but yesterday in | :10:21. | :10:24. | |
Philadelphia she was also saying, we should have a new relationship with | :10:25. | :10:27. | |
Russia and its actually the same sound coming from the president | :10:28. | :10:36. | |
hopeful in France. If he is elected he is very much in favour of | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
changing completely different foreign policy towards Russia, so it | :10:41. | :10:43. | |
is not something we haven't heard in different parts of Europe. It is | :10:44. | :10:47. | |
something which is gradually taking ground and I see it coming with | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
Theresa May. She is trying to hold on to what is British foreign policy | :10:52. | :10:56. | |
but it is changing. What do you think we will get out of that call | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
or what will we be told to come out of that call? I suspect we won't be | :11:01. | :11:05. | |
told a lot of useful information. Except that it is tremendous and | :11:06. | :11:11. | |
fantastic. We had the same thing with the Mexican president. It was a | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
great conversation, we got on really well. Nothing of substance was | :11:16. | :11:19. | |
reported and I suspect it will be a while before we find out about the | :11:20. | :11:23. | |
bilateral relationship between Trump and other world leaders. The Mexican | :11:24. | :11:29. | |
-- Trump said he cancelled the meeting with the Mexican president, | :11:30. | :11:33. | |
making it sound like they both decided it wasn't happening. I | :11:34. | :11:36. | |
mentioned it, let's get back onto it and go through it in real-time. | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
Brexit. This was going to be very closely looked at, what was said in | :11:42. | :11:45. | |
a press conference and the West, by the European press, by the European | :11:46. | :11:50. | |
leaders. Agnes, let me start with you. How do you think the other | :11:51. | :11:55. | |
European leaders will be viewing what happened today? The thing is, | :11:56. | :11:57. | |
what happened today apart from words. Trump said it was the most | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
wonderful thing that could happen to Britain. But in terms of trade, do | :12:02. | :12:10. | |
we know anything in detail? No, it might be too early. It's the first | :12:11. | :12:19. | |
visit. But also his words towards the EU, towards the consortium, I | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
mean, he hates the organisation that is the European Union. Will it have | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
annoyed, angered, embittered foreign leaders towards the UK? Yes, | :12:30. | :12:36. | |
absolutely. Article 50 haven't been triggered and yet Theresa May, the | :12:37. | :12:39. | |
British Prime Minister, is rushing, running to Washington in the hope of | :12:40. | :12:45. | |
having a trade deal with Trump. Trump says, yes, of course, we'll | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
have a tremendous relationship. But it's all wind. It's all | :12:51. | :12:55. | |
anti-dash-mac empty words. Britain is still in the European Union as | :12:56. | :13:02. | |
far as we know. Would the other European leaders have expected it | :13:03. | :13:05. | |
and if the boot was on the other fit, they would have gone? Expected | :13:06. | :13:12. | |
a chronology, perhaps. You go after you have officially said, I am | :13:13. | :13:15. | |
leaving the European Union and I will therefore start negotiations. I | :13:16. | :13:20. | |
think what's really interesting is that for all the handholding, Trump | :13:21. | :13:24. | |
did not come out and say, we will definitely do a quick trade deal | :13:25. | :13:27. | |
with the UK and we will start negotiating it now. That's not what | :13:28. | :13:33. | |
Theresa May and Downing Street would have hoped to have come out of this. | :13:34. | :13:36. | |
You think realistically though he might have said something like that? | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
With Trump, of course he might have done. You might have had to row back | :13:42. | :13:45. | |
on it but he could have done. Someone has got to him and said | :13:46. | :13:49. | |
don't go too far on this. We have to get this through Congress, we have | :13:50. | :13:51. | |
to speak to the lobbyists in the US to speak to the lobbyists in the US | :13:52. | :13:54. | |
about what the terms of this will be. Throw back a bit. I think it's | :13:55. | :13:58. | |
interesting. They would have loved to have been able to say, Trump says | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
we will definitely do a trade deal but they didn't get that headline. | :14:03. | :14:06. | |
With regard to the fact that he doesn't make the laws, it have to go | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
through Congress and the British can't start proper trade talks until | :14:11. | :14:14. | |
that period has finished, in a sense, a lot of this was for show | :14:15. | :14:18. | |
anyway? Of course. It's all about holding hands, you know. I do hope | :14:19. | :14:24. | |
he's not going to try holding hands with the Queen. Hopefully he will be | :14:25. | :14:29. | |
briefed on that. I mean, this is a pantomime. Isn't it? I mean, that's | :14:30. | :14:34. | |
all you get on every single British newspaper. The ministers will be | :14:35. | :14:40. | |
delighted seeing it so prominently everywhere. Well, some will be, and | :14:41. | :14:45. | |
some will share my view, I suspect, that there is perhaps a very large | :14:46. | :14:50. | |
hostage to fortune. If Trump goes down in flames, which is not | :14:51. | :14:53. | |
inconceivable given his erratic Hagar in this first week, this could | :14:54. | :14:58. | |
look really bad. I don't think Angela Merkel would have held hands | :14:59. | :15:02. | |
with Donald Trump. It was interesting, as they were walking | :15:03. | :15:06. | |
behind the pillars, those pillars hit quite a lot. We don't know who | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
grabbed his hand. It's like the playground. Though back to the | :15:11. | :15:17. | |
Telegraph as well, as that has got an interesting angle on that. Inside | :15:18. | :15:21. | |
and on page five, Prince Charles talking about Brexit, saying it has | :15:22. | :15:25. | |
been given almost a possession status over other important topics, | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
most particularly, Christian persecution. He took part in this | :15:32. | :15:35. | |
campaign about persecution in the Middle East of questions and he was | :15:36. | :15:40. | |
very frustrated, it seems, it seems pretty well sourced, that this | :15:41. | :15:46. | |
wasn't picked up by the media. Prince Charles blamed Brexit that it | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
wasn't picked up because everyone is obsessed with that. I think it's | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
more that the media is obsessed than the British people. One thing you | :15:56. | :15:58. | |
can say, he has certainly right about wrong because now it is in the | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
media and the report is being talked about and he has got exposure for | :16:04. | :16:07. | |
it, so good for him. It is a little talked about subject, the | :16:08. | :16:10. | |
persecution of Christians, and it has been said for years, so good on | :16:11. | :16:16. | |
him to actually push it almost to the front page. Just briefly if you | :16:17. | :16:24. | |
would, this is just the start, is it not? The start of constant headlines | :16:25. | :16:28. | |
about Brexit over the next two or so years. Oh, yes, we have had it long | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
as the can see. What next with the as the can see. What next with the | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
Trump written relationship? Obviously you two are deeply Peta | :16:38. | :16:44. | |
Miss -- pessimistic about it. Do you see the wheels falling off in the | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
next few days or weeks? Well, they will bid. It's a bit like Brexit, | :16:49. | :16:53. | |
it's almost worse than Brexit, because it concentrates all your | :16:54. | :16:58. | |
attention. If only we could focus on something else. Well, there we must | :16:59. | :17:01. | |
leave it. Thank you very much indeed. | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
Don't forget you can see the front pages of the papers online | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
It's all there for you, 7 days a week at bbc.co.uk/papers - | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
and if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it | :17:16. | :17:17. | |
A big thank you to Agnes and to Ben. Goodbye. | :17:18. | :17:28. | |
Good evening. The gradual progression towards milder weather | :17:29. | :17:36. | |
has started. But we still had some freezing fog and some ice around | :17:37. | :17:40. | |
into this afternoon. Plenty of sunshine around as well, further | :17:41. | :17:42. | |
north across | :17:43. | :17:44. |