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Hello, this is BBC News with me, Reeta Chakrabarti.

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We'll be taking a look at tomorrow morning's papers in a moment,

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CHANTING: No hate, no fear - Muslims are welcome here!

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Demonstrations are taking place at New York's JFK Airport,

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where travellers have been detained following Donald Trump's latest

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executive orders which ban people from seven mainly Muslim countries

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On a trade visit to Turkey, Theresa May refused to join others

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voicing concern at President Trump's measures, which have also suspended

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Well, the United States is responsible for the United States'

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policy on refugees, and the United Kingdom is

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responsible for the United Kingdom's policy on refugees.

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The president has also being holding phone calls with world leaders.

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In his conversation with President Putin,

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the two reportedly spoke of strengthening trade ties,

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though there was no mention of easing sanctions imposed

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on Russia following the Ukraine conflict.

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And stars from around the world have been paying tribute

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to the actor Sir John Hurt, who has died at the age of 77.

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Star of stage, TV and film, he was best known for roles

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in The Elephant Man, Alien and Harry Potter.

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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are Martin Bentham, home affairs editor

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at the Evening Standard, and the journalist and

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A quick look, before that, at some of tomorrow's front

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The Observer, which leads with Global Fury in reaction

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to Donald Trump's immigration ban preventing people from seven

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mainly Muslim countries from entering the United States.

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The Express says Prince William and Harry are to unveil a statue

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of Princess Diana in the grounds of Kensington Palace to mark

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The Daily Mail reports that NHS doctors have been advised not

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to call pregnant women "mothers" because it might offend

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The Telegraph leads with comments from the Northern Ireland Secretary,

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James Brokenshire, who tells the paper the system

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for investigating murders committed during the Troubles

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Let's begin. Let's start with the story that is an ongoing story that

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we will be speaking about for days and weeks to come, I think.

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President Trump's ban on migrants and on refugees. Global Fury,

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Martin. And I think that sums up the reaction by and large? Yes,

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obviously lots and lots of denunciation of this policy which

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clearly is rather distasteful, and I think misguided as well. Quite where

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it goes from here, it will go on for days and days, and obviously the

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policy is meant to last for 90 days, a part of that 120 days, for

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refugees, and possibly longer than that. Clearly there will be

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developments in the coming days in terms of potential challengers. I

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expect clarification actually from the US administration about green

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card holders, some of the big corporations like Google and

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Facebook already expressing concern about some of their employees who I

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am sure generally speaking the US government would like to still see

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in the country and so on, being affected, because there will be all

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sorts of unforeseen consequences, family members and so on. So, yes,

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this will continue for a long time. Clearly it has an awful lot of

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attacks because it is clearly discriminatory against a group,

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certain groups, people, and seems to be based on no real evidence, to be

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frank. The Observer, Rachel, speaks about several cases... Yazidi woman

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who fled an IS massacre in Iraq in 2014 being stopped from boarding a

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flight in Baghdad after waiting for months to be reunited with her

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husband already in the US. Presumably these stories will

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multiply in the next few days. To be clear, these measures... It is

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absolutely cruel, and absolute cruelty, and it has caused chaos and

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heartbreak. Some half a million people in the last decade from those

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countries on the list have been given green cards in the US. They

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have lives in the US, they have families, jobs, houses. They might

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happen to be overseas at this time and are now wondering whether they

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can go home to their lives, families, everything. It is

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unimaginable, the horror and despair that would cause those people, so of

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course it has been condemned. Although, interestingly, not by

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Theresa May. Even though it has now transpired it is going to affect

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British citizens who either have dual nationality or where it seems

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just been born in one of those countries is enough, so it is

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absolutely despicable and craven of our Prime Minister, I think, do not

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speak out against something that is very clearly racial discrimination

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and is now affecting British citizens as well. Martin, did

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Theresa May have an alternative in terms of the way she should have

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addressed this? She was asked about her attitude to President Trump 's

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palsy, and she simply said the US and the UK has separate policies --

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Trump's policy. I think in general countries do not Express opinions

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about the country's domestic policies, that is the general

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principle. Obviously when they become extreme and a portent it can

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be an exception. I think she will have to speak not least in

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Parliament on Monday, she comes to give a statement about the visit

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with President Trump I suspect this shall be raised then -- when they

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become extreme and abhorrent. For British people affected by this, she

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will potentially speak about that. I think she has made a decision that

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she cannot every time she appears be questioned about the latest Trump

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policy, no doubt there are going to be more of those. There is no way

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that kind of calculation can hold. She should never have bound her feet

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so closely with him to begin with. The Observer is to be commended, I

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think, for putting this comment on its front page. Interestingly, it is

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the only one with the story on the front page. The US president in his

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first week has proved he is like nothing that has gone before. He is

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ignorant, prejudiced and vicious in a way that no American leader has

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been. I think that is the point. It is a very extreme situation. This is

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not a normal president. This is quite blatantly racial

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discrimination. Sorry, religious discrimination. And we saw it coming

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down the line... I will bring Martin in quickly. I think she was right to

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go and meet him because unfortunately we have to work with

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what is there in the White House and there is no point shouting from the

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sidelines, so I can understand why she went. Obviously it is a

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problematic position to do so in one sense because it is high risk and

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that risk will continue. I think in terms of the papers actually the

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reason for that is that some papers will make a political decision not

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to do it, perhaps, and others will simply think that story has been all

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over the broadcast news today, we want to give our readers something

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different that will make them pick up the paper tomorrow. That might be

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the right or wrong decision but I am sure the Mail on Sunday, for

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example, has a very good story, and I am sure... You think it was

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commercially rather than politically driven? In some cases I think it

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will be commercial rather than political. Let me stop that for a

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moment and turn to another Donald Trump story on the front page of the

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Sunday Express. Officials feel there could be a diplomatic row when

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President Trump comes on his state visit later this year between him

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and the Royal family. An intriguing story, actually, when you look at

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the details. The clashes there might be between him and various members

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of the family... He will probably turn up and be a complete poodle, in

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fact, because he will be delighted to be in that environment. But you

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are right, with some of the detail... The top line of that you

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would think, obviously Prince Charles being a committed

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environmentalist, President Trump being a climate change denier, that

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is the sort of top line of the potential clash, but there is more

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to it than that. Prince Harry, who apparently had a close relationship

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or was... Had close bond the former first Lady Michelle Obama, is weary

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of President Trump, who once bragged he would have had sex with President

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Diana -- Princess Diana, apparently. And obviously you will not take

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kindly to the fact President Trump tweeted about Kate being

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photographed topless, in unsavoury terms, William will not be happy

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about that. Interesting things in the next. It will be interesting to

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see who does meet him when he comes. I suspect when they meet there will

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not be any great clashes because they all know there roles, and

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although Trump can be very maverick, clearly, I think he will behave

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himself in front of the Royal family. But whilst Prince Charles

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has refused to meet the Chinese on numerous occasions in the past, and

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whether Princes Harry and Prince William decide they have numerous

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other things to do and cannot be there... That might be... And what

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President Trump can be persuaded to say on Twitter afterwards as well,

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because there is protocol that you do not report on what is being said

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during Royal conversations. Someone will have to just take his phone

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away. Let's return to the Observer, potential for a grassroots Labour

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revolt over Brexit. This organised by a grassroots group? It is

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basically saying the MPs... Some people have resigned from the Shadow

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Cabinet since Jeremy Corbyn posed his three line whip saying members

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had to vote triggering Article 50, that there is grassroots group of

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members supporting that stands of people saying they cannot vote for

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Brexit, and I suppose the interesting there is that Corbyn has

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always been sustained, not by the parliamentary party, but by his

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support at the grassroots level, so there is a suggestion, only a very

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vague suggestion, that that might change or be changing a little as a

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result of this Article 50 three line whip. Whether it comes down to that,

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I don't know, or whether it is something that blows over in two

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weeks' time when the vote goes through, and I suspect that is more

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likely to be the case, that it will be a temporary problem, because most

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of the grassroots still seem to support his brand of Labour

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politics. Rachel, what do you make of it? It is a horrible situation

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for the Labour Party, because as you say given the composition of their

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voters and their base, and Labour cannot really be seen to be

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thwarting a democratic vote to leave, but I think, and this is

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possibly where the readership has not been clear -- leadership. It now

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has a lot of space to negotiate the kind of Brexit we are going to have,

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which is after all the job of Parliament and not just the

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Government, and I think maybe it has not been forceful enough about what

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its red lines are in that regard, and had it been, it might have not

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alienate it its base in the way this piece suggests. I am not sure they

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have much ability to negotiate and dictate the terms. I am not sure

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this debate on Article 50, this bill, will lead to that in reality.

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It might not this particular bill, but the next two years... I will cut

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you both off for the next stories. Front page of the Mail, very strange

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story coming quite left-field compared to the others. Doctors have

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been told not to call pregnant patients mothers. How can that be?

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Because some of them might be men. Sorry, women who are changing.

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Transgender. Women who are transgender. But this comes from the

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BMA, according to the Mail. This, talking about what is on the front

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page, great story. Do not call pregnant women and mothers, it seems

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absolutely crazy, and of course you can understand the logic, not

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wanting to offend or upset if it were too upset somebody in that

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situation, but the likelihood of that, I think, is minuscule, I would

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have thought. Maybe I am wrong. Guest... It just seems to be, the

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Mail obviously, just being nonsensical, really, their take on

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it. It is a shame. Gone off on what they call the relentless march of

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transgender political correctness and they have had a go at the

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traffic lights in central London which I have to say I really like,

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they always make me smile in Trafalgar Square, this assortment of

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gay, lesbian and transgender symbols and couples. Quite confusing trying

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to work out what they mean. Sadiq Khan's bid to show how open and a

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diverse and tolerant Londoners. There is nothing wrong with that,

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all a good thing in general. I think when you try to pretend that the

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9.9% of people who in this case are going to be mothers, women and so on

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-- Corbyn. It is quite a hard one to explain. Thank you very much. We

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will have another one through. Thank you, Martin and Rachel -

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you'll both be back at 11:30 for another look at the stories

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making the news tomorrow.

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