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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are Martin Bentham - home affairs Editor

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at the Evening Standard - and the journalist and broadcaster,

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A quick look at some of tomorrow's front pages,

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The Observer leads with what it calls the "global fury" in reaction

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to Donald Trump's immigration ban preventing people from seven mainly

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Muslim countries from entering the United States.

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The Sunday Times says there's a diplomatic rift

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between President Trump and the Prince of Wales

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over their views on climate change, which the paper says could disrupt

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the president's state visit to the UK in June.

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The Sunday Express says Prince William and Harry

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are to unveil a statue of Princess Diana in the grounds

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of Kensington Palace - to mark the 20th anniversary

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The Mail on Sunday reports that NHS doctors have been

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advised in guidelines from the BMA not to call pregnant women "mothers"

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because it might offend transgender people.

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And The Sunday Telegraph leads with comments

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from the Northern Ireland Secretary, James Brokenshire, who tells

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the paper the system for investigating murders committed

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So, let's begin and let's start with the story that has just dominated

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the day. President Trump's ban on migrants and refugees and the

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Observer talks about global jury which probably sums it up? Martin?

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It's fairly accurate. Especially in those countries that are affected by

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it but also across various parts of Europe, there has been widespread

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condemnation. Not by every single European leader, by any means. But

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there has been a lot of criticism of this policy. Donald Trump seems to

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be facing it all down and I suspect there may have to be some

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clarifications and concessions towards people with green cards and

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people with family. They have been concerns being raised by companies

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like Google about their staff in the USA. It's clearly divisive,

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abhorrent, and actually completely counter-productive, I would have

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thought. If you talk about trying to prevent extremists coming into the

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country, there is no evidence this policy will help but it may make it

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worse by fuelling grievances in Islamic parts of the world and maybe

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creating a greater problem rather than a lesser problem. You make the

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point that not everybody has condemned this policy. In this

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headline, to reason they refused to condemn this move. She will be

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judged very harshly for that. This is one of those moments. It is

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religious discrimination, clear and simple. It is an extreme measure

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from a president who is not in any sense a normal president. The

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Observer described him as ignorant, vicious, as no other American

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President has been. This is one of the times where you would expect the

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leader of the UK would reflect traditional use. I don't think this

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is a reflection of our traditions. Donald Trump was not liked by the

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UK. People with green cards people who have been there for ten years,

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who have lives, families, homes, jobs, are suddenly wondering whether

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they can go back home to their families and to their lives. It's

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absolutely abhorrent. It is cruelty, a despicable thing to do. Theresa

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May will be judged for not standing up to that and not taking a line

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against it. Martin, to reason they was in a difficult position, though.

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It was 24 hours since she had been shoulder to shoulder with President

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Trump, talking trade I'm not sure if your correct is completely, Rachel.

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I do think British people will be in favour of this ban. I'm quite sure

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they would be but the question for to reason they as the actual Prime

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Minister of of our country is what is likely to be the most effective

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way of having a positive influence, if you can have one, on Donald

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Trump. It may turn out to be a futile exercise and obviously her

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whole strategy is to try to have good relationship with him, to try

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to that actually the roughest possible edges are smoothed off him

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and try to direct him in some kind of way, in a better direction, than

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otherwise he might go. That is her strategy. I think, in one sense,

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sounding off from the sidelines isn't going to be very helpful.

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That's her calculation. I did it that's necessarily unwired,

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actually. --I don't think it's necessarily -- unwise. This is

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looking at a potential diplomatic car crash. This is apparently coming

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from the President's team of sources. Intriguing in its health.

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They have warned that it will be counter-productive to have the

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Prince of way all is meat Trump. -- intriguing in its self. -- the

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Prince of way -- Wales. The quotes coming out from President Trump,

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they want all the pomp, the with William and Kate, all to go

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seamlessly. One of the risk factors is Charles. The White House is

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wanting to dictate protocol and usually it would be Buckingham

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Palace. We are anticipating the row but this is a fascinating scenario.

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Suggesting here that Prince Charles would want to meet him. We were

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discussing in the earlier review that maybe Prince Charles might have

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said he didn't want to get involved with meeting President Trump. He has

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refused to meet the Chinese, for example, overheat their treatment of

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Tibet. -- over their treatment. This is suggesting that Trump wants the

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pomp and circumstance and not to have any clash whatsoever. What will

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actually happen if they do meet and if other royal members who also meet

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him and may also have things they don't like about Donald Trump. It

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will be a fascinating thing which unfortunately we may not ever hear

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about. Unless he tweets about it. Let's move on to the Sunday express.

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A story on page six. Do about his policy, he took phone calls from

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various leaders including Putin. The express is that reporting on this 15

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minutes on the phone with Putin. There have been questions

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surrounding Trump's relationship with Russia and the degree to

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whether Russia had an influence on Trump and the election campaign. It

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seems the top line coming out of this conversation was to do with

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dealing with Islamic State. Trump has been talking about rousing a

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coalition of the willing, again. It will be a departure for the US.

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While the US and Russia have both been involved in Syria, Russia has

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been on the side of Bashar al-Assad and the only Corporation between

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Russia and the US has been about not getting in each other's way over

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targets. It wasn't clear that Russia was ever going after Islamic State

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to begin with and seemed to be hitting more civilians and people

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not involved with Islamic State. This goes back to what we were

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talking about with Theresa May. Of course, Trump has been making

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friendly noises about Vladimir Putin, talking about using

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sanctions. There is a lot of fear in the Baltic states about Russian

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aggression. Of course, if Trump gets very close to Putin, we want to stop

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that, really. We want to be making sure that he goes in with his eyes

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open when he is dealing with Britain and he doesn't get seduced by this

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idea of some great new friendships and so on. Again, if you look back

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at the overall political dynamics of things. Theresa May, for example,

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will be thinking about exactly this. Who will Trump be friendly with? If

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everybody else is denouncing him, he may end up big friendly with the

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people that are most unwilling... We're the trouble with that

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configuration is it assumes you can bring about reform inside the tent

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when there is a fire inside the tent. Lets me bring you back to the

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Times. A follow-up from a big story a couple of weeks ago about the

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Trident nuclear deterrent. The previous story had been about a test

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in which the Trident had gone off in the wrong direction. The follow up

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this week? There has been 1.4 billion, which seems a lot of money,

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on repairing the system of the Trident missiles. You got the full

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story here. I don't pick it says here over what period that money had

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been spent at clearly they will have been a need to update some of the

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guidance systems on it because it is quite an old missile. On the other

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hand, it plays into what was a good story that Sunday Times had last

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week about the misfiring. It should not have been concealed. It was made

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to sound as though it wasn't an isolated incident. There have been

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potentially ongoing issues. I think it's good that the Sunday Times is

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the sticking with this investigation because it does raise questions,

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primarily over the secrecy of the government around this and why it

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didn't disclose this information last year and whether it didn't

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disclose the information because it was ahead of a vote on Trident

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renewal. These are questions that haven't really been addressed yet,

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have they? Let's move away from politics for a moment and go to the

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front page of the Mail on Sunday. An extraordinary headline. Don't call

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pregnant patient mothers. Why? Why not? It is quite confusing but it's

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basically because there is a risk of offending a transgender person who

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is about to give birth. I E a woman who is changing sex to a man but has

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still got the worm and therefore is able to become pregnant -- pregnant

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and so on. It is apparently put out guidelines saying that mothers to be

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should be referred to as pregnant people instead which seems

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absolutely nonsensical given that there must be one or two people at

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the very most that are likely to be in that situation and whether they

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would be offended or not by being called a pregnant mother as opposed

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to a pregnant person. It seems unlikely. Anyway... What you think

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of this story, Rachel? Unconvinced? I'm not convinced that it would

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cause offence. I think, Gino, if you are in that situation, presumably

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the focus is the pregnancy. -- you know. It's hard to imagine that a

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pregnant person would take offence. There we will leave it. Thank you

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both very much indeed. That is it for the papers their sour. Thank you

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to Martin and to Rachel. Coming up next is the film are a few -- this

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owl.

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