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Good evening. You are watching BBC News. We will be taking a look at

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the newspapers in just a moment with my guests. We will go through the

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front pages. First, the headlines. The Foreign Office says UK nationals

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should not be banned from travelling to the United States, even if they

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hold dual nationality with one of the seven countries President Trump

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as this travel restrictions on. The government says passengers might

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face extra checks if they are flying from one of the mainly Muslim

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countries. Huge crowds gathered outside the White House to protest

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the travel ban. Leading Republican senators have said the order could

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help extremist recruitment and 16 state attorney generals had said

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restrictions are unconstitutional. An online petition against the

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travel that the group planned state visit by Donald Trump has gained

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more than 700 supporters. The petition will be considered for

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debate by MPs. The United States military says a raid against

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Al-Qaeda in Yemen, authorised the President Trump, has killed 14

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militants. Local sources say at least a dozen civilians have been

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killed. The former French premised has been defeated in the race to be

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France's Socialist candidate. My guests and made the offer is Chris

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Cleave, whose book, everyone agrees for giving takes us back to the

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London of the Blitz when they still didn't know he would win the war.

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Welcome to our look ahead at what was in The Papers tomorrow. Jackie

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France's and Tom Bergen are with me. Thanks so much for being with us.

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That shows what we have got of the front pages. The Financial Times

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saying President Trump remains defiant over that controversial

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travel ban as protests and legal challenges mount. The Times says the

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White House has backed down over dual nationality Britons and the

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Telegraph says borrowing Johnson, the Foreign Secretary, has received

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streams is that the vast majority of British citizens will be exempt from

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the ban. The picture is of Sir Mo Farah, who has been told he can

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return the United States. The Olympic champion coded in the daily

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Star saying he fears for his family who all live in America. Stop Trump

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state visit is the Metro Red Line. More than 700,000 people signing the

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online petition calling on the government to stop the trip later

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this year. According to the express, a drug to traverse all summers could

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be just years away. Only one place to start and that is with the Donald

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Trump travel ban. Let's look at the Financial Times. Trump defined as

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protests mount over extreme setting travel ban and there have been a lot

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of protests. He is doing what he said he would do. For him, it is a

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no brain. We might be sued -- we might be surprised that people

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thought he would do otherwise. Saudi Arabia is not on the list. We know

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that most of the people who are involved in the 9-11 hijackings were

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from Saudi Arabia. What that means is that most of the US citizens who

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have been killed in terror attacks involved Saudi citizens, they are

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not on the list. That could be because there are certain real

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politic issues with Saudi Arabia. It is not as simple as just banning

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Muslims. The issue is if it is not that simple, is this measure too

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simple? There could be a blowback, which they are concerned about

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coming from Saudi Arabia and other countries. Should we be surprised

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question talk a lot about banning Muslims and so on? Absolutely not.

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One thing, in his short time as president, he has shown is, if he

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said it, on the campaign trail, he ain't it. That is what is

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frightening, because most people thought once he got into the Oval

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Office, he would somehow be tempered, the actual office, the

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status of being president, would change. He is saying Donald is

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Donald. I said I would do it and I have done it. It has taken many

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Americans and a lot of officials there by surprise. The New York

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Times is writing there was confusion amongst officials. Airlines were not

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certain as to who to stop. It was done quite quickly. Let's talk about

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the British angle. We gather that Whitehall, the Foreign Office, the

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Home Office have been scrambling to work out what it means for British

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citizens. What is your understanding question to interpret it for us. The

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jury Telegraph front page is Boris keeps United States open to Britons.

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As far as we can tell, Boris has had a word with somebody and he is

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saying that if you are a British citizen, you are OK. If you are

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travelling to the US from anywhere other than those countries, for

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example, the UK, it doesn't apply to you. We were a bit confused because

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we were thinking, if I am a Somali, travelling from the UK to America,

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that doesn't apply to me? It doesn't make sense. The guidance of my

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colleagues in Cairo have gone to the airport there, that is not what is

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happening there. People are not being allowed to fights. Unless you

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are coming physically from one of those countries you are safe, but is

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what the Foreign Office is saying, does not fit the facts on the

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ground. The issue is, if it is your life and you have a life in America

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and you are tempted to visit family in Iraq, it might be the end of your

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life in America. He have to have a higher level of certainty.

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Businesses around the world, there will be shock. If you have somebody

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working for you who is abroad and from one of those countries, are

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they going to be able to get back into the country? Back into America

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for work on Monday morning? Above the knot. The Telegraph feature Sir

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Mo Farah. He has been saying the Queen made him Sir Mo Farah and

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Donald Trump is bit of an alien, which is a memorable message. He

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encapsulates the difficulties that many people like him are facing. The

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uncertainty. Lots of people have international lives these days,

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especially people we see in newspapers and read about, sports

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stars, they train in one country was coming from another country. Big

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companies, tech companies, rely a lot on foreign employees because

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they like to recruit the smartest people from around the world. They

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are telling your staff do not go home until you know what the

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situation is. It is all very well one person getting the all clear,

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you cannot do it one by one, millions are affected. Just think of

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all the students. The students studying in America who went home

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and who are coming back for the new semester. Are they are certain they

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can get back into America, ready for university? We do come back to the

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fact he is a democratically elected president and this, as we said, is

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not a surprise. This is what the people who voted for him, maybe not

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exactly, but the kind of thing people who voted for him voted for.

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Absolutely. They are in heaven. They are seeing, right before their eyes,

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exactly what they wanted to see which is that he said it and he has

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done it. He said it is making America stronger and he said the

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world is a horrible mess. Did he mean from when he signed it on

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Friday or hasn't always a mess? A lot of people said it is

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unconstitutional. That isn't necessarily true, the president has

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a lot of legal leeway, even if it appears to be prejudiced against

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certain religions. The accusation he is doing something unlawful, that

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has not been proven whatsoever and it seems uncertain. This was the

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decision of the people. There is a question about the effectiveness and

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terrorism is a difficult thing to study. It is not studied as much as

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it should be. What is consistent in most strategies is the hearts and

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minds issue. This potentially does cause problems in that area. There

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are is not a war on terrorism and immoral, it has become a war on

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Muslims. Should Donald Trump come to the UK for this visit? This online

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petition, every time we should it has gotten more signatures, more

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than 700,000, heading toward 100,000. Will that make any

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difference? I don't think it does. When it comes to the Queen and the

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people she has met over Korean, in terms of dislike and petitions,

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Donald isn't even close, I don't think. Once it has officially been

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announced there will be a visit, because it takes place. I said

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earlier, even if we snubbed him, it will be in such a particularly

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British weight that he might not notice he is being snubbed. It will

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go ahead. Presumably there will be demonstrations and protests and so

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on as there have been in America? I am sure there will be and he will

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tweet about that because he has incredibly thin skin. When I think

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of it years the Obama 's had to put up with what they did and he is

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president for five days and he is complaining about all the press not

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liking him, it is like, suck it up a Donald, you have four more years to

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go. Conceivably yet more years. Now, now. Do you think the visit should

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go ahead because we had Theresa May in Washington, is not important talk

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about trade and post Brexit and so one? We have to find our way in the

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world. It is difficult to think of a realistic basis at present on which

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you would deny him entry were not seek to do business with them. I

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think that what is interesting, especially for the leadership, what

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happened today, or over the weekend, is a sign of the risks for Theresa

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May of having him here. Looking at images of Theresa May in Washington,

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there was a lack of fear on her face, worried about what he might

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say and what position... He held her hand. Imagine if he announced this

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at the podium when he was with. If he comes and mixed statements, you

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can make a statement which would be embarrassing for the British

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government. There is a risk for them. I don't think there is a risk

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he would come but it does bring political risks. He did not sit just

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after she left and she didn't have too much time to react. A quick look

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at the express. The Queen caught in Trump visited row over US ban on

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refugees. As you were saying, she has seen it all before. She has and

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she will continue doing what she does which is to make sure that she

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keeps the monarchy in the best light and the state visit where it should

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be, which is up there, pop and circumstance is what he wants and

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what he will get. He wants her to watch playing golf at Balmoral. It

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just seems bizarre. The list of things they trade, this is what we

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want, this is what you get, not going to happen. But at a quick look

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at other stories. The Financial Times again, they have a story about

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MBA graduate salaries racing at the fastest rate for a decade. A golden

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age for a job? It is a golden age for jobs if you are in a select

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group. You get paid very well. We live in an economy, what comes out

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at me, it is another side of inequality. This is a statistical

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reality that unskilled workers have experienced over the past ten or 20

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years, maybe more. Very low wage inflation, whereas at the higher

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end, it is significant. This is consistent with a lot of the data we

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are seeing. What is your experience on the jobs front? If you have

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?300,000 it says here to pay for a nBA, the payoff at the end would be

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great. For most people, it is completely unrealistic and when you

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think about student that now, who then would think, I go X amount of

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money, let me go and do this? It depends on who you are, what

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industry you are going into and, unfortunately, where you get your

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degree from. Somebody who does have ?300,000, I would bet, that is Roger

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Federer. He is back. Rolling back the years. Aged 35, wins the

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Australian. What is most interesting. He hasn't won a major

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in almost five years. After being of the top of the game for that length

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of the period, many people had written him off. His seeding was low

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in tournaments recently. It is great to see this. 35 is both apparently.

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Absolutely ancient. Be careful. I think back to Jack Nicholas, his

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sixth Masters victory at 46, it is gripped to see somebody like this. I

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keep thinking if only Andy had stayed in, he could have won this.

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Are you and Andy fan? No, I am not a tennis fan. I just think it is

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wonderful and it shows that age is not a barrier and somebody like him,

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she has been training of his life, can still continue and the same

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thing with Serena Williams. She is 35, 36 and they are saying she could

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go for another four or five years. We'll Andy went another grand slam?

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In terms of age, she is younger than Federer. As Jackie says, it

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shouldn't be a bath. There is no particular reason to think he has

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peaked. It is unlikely Roger Federer will return to the peak form he had

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in the past. There has to be plenty more left in the town. One hopes, it

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is good for the country, when he does do well. Good to talk to you

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both. We will see you both later on. Like you for running through The

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Papers with us. We will be back at half past 11 for another look at the

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stories making The Papers. Chris Cleave knows

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how to spin a story. His novels have been huge

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bestsellers, gripping thrillers they

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