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Good evening. You are watching BBC News. We will be taking a look at


the newspapers in just a moment with my guests. We will go through the


front pages. First, the headlines. The Foreign Office says UK nationals


should not be banned from travelling to the United States, even if they


hold dual nationality with one of the seven countries President Trump


as this travel restrictions on. The government says passengers might


face extra checks if they are flying from one of the mainly Muslim


countries. Huge crowds gathered outside the White House to protest


the travel ban. Leading Republican senators have said the order could


help extremist recruitment and 16 state attorney generals had said


restrictions are unconstitutional. An online petition against the


travel that the group planned state visit by Donald Trump has gained


more than 700 supporters. The petition will be considered for


debate by MPs. The United States military says a raid against


Al-Qaeda in Yemen, authorised the President Trump, has killed 14


militants. Local sources say at least a dozen civilians have been


killed. The former French premised has been defeated in the race to be


France's Socialist candidate. My guests and made the offer is Chris


Cleave, whose book, everyone agrees for giving takes us back to the


London of the Blitz when they still didn't know he would win the war.


Welcome to our look ahead at what was in The Papers tomorrow. Jackie


France's and Tom Bergen are with me. Thanks so much for being with us.


That shows what we have got of the front pages. The Financial Times


saying President Trump remains defiant over that controversial


travel ban as protests and legal challenges mount. The Times says the


White House has backed down over dual nationality Britons and the


Telegraph says borrowing Johnson, the Foreign Secretary, has received


streams is that the vast majority of British citizens will be exempt from


the ban. The picture is of Sir Mo Farah, who has been told he can


return the United States. The Olympic champion coded in the daily


Star saying he fears for his family who all live in America. Stop Trump


state visit is the Metro Red Line. More than 700,000 people signing the


online petition calling on the government to stop the trip later


this year. According to the express, a drug to traverse all summers could


be just years away. Only one place to start and that is with the Donald


Trump travel ban. Let's look at the Financial Times. Trump defined as


protests mount over extreme setting travel ban and there have been a lot


of protests. He is doing what he said he would do. For him, it is a


no brain. We might be sued -- we might be surprised that people


thought he would do otherwise. Saudi Arabia is not on the list. We know


that most of the people who are involved in the 9-11 hijackings were


from Saudi Arabia. What that means is that most of the US citizens who


have been killed in terror attacks involved Saudi citizens, they are


not on the list. That could be because there are certain real


politic issues with Saudi Arabia. It is not as simple as just banning


Muslims. The issue is if it is not that simple, is this measure too


simple? There could be a blowback, which they are concerned about


coming from Saudi Arabia and other countries. Should we be surprised


question talk a lot about banning Muslims and so on? Absolutely not.


One thing, in his short time as president, he has shown is, if he


said it, on the campaign trail, he ain't it. That is what is


frightening, because most people thought once he got into the Oval


Office, he would somehow be tempered, the actual office, the


status of being president, would change. He is saying Donald is


Donald. I said I would do it and I have done it. It has taken many


Americans and a lot of officials there by surprise. The New York


Times is writing there was confusion amongst officials. Airlines were not


certain as to who to stop. It was done quite quickly. Let's talk about


the British angle. We gather that Whitehall, the Foreign Office, the


Home Office have been scrambling to work out what it means for British


citizens. What is your understanding question to interpret it for us. The


jury Telegraph front page is Boris keeps United States open to Britons.


As far as we can tell, Boris has had a word with somebody and he is


saying that if you are a British citizen, you are OK. If you are


travelling to the US from anywhere other than those countries, for


example, the UK, it doesn't apply to you. We were a bit confused because


we were thinking, if I am a Somali, travelling from the UK to America,


that doesn't apply to me? It doesn't make sense. The guidance of my


colleagues in Cairo have gone to the airport there, that is not what is


happening there. People are not being allowed to fights. Unless you


are coming physically from one of those countries you are safe, but is


what the Foreign Office is saying, does not fit the facts on the


ground. The issue is, if it is your life and you have a life in America


and you are tempted to visit family in Iraq, it might be the end of your


life in America. He have to have a higher level of certainty.


Businesses around the world, there will be shock. If you have somebody


working for you who is abroad and from one of those countries, are


they going to be able to get back into the country? Back into America


for work on Monday morning? Above the knot. The Telegraph feature Sir


Mo Farah. He has been saying the Queen made him Sir Mo Farah and


Donald Trump is bit of an alien, which is a memorable message. He


encapsulates the difficulties that many people like him are facing. The


uncertainty. Lots of people have international lives these days,


especially people we see in newspapers and read about, sports


stars, they train in one country was coming from another country. Big


companies, tech companies, rely a lot on foreign employees because


they like to recruit the smartest people from around the world. They


are telling your staff do not go home until you know what the


situation is. It is all very well one person getting the all clear,


you cannot do it one by one, millions are affected. Just think of


all the students. The students studying in America who went home


and who are coming back for the new semester. Are they are certain they


can get back into America, ready for university? We do come back to the


fact he is a democratically elected president and this, as we said, is


not a surprise. This is what the people who voted for him, maybe not


exactly, but the kind of thing people who voted for him voted for.


Absolutely. They are in heaven. They are seeing, right before their eyes,


exactly what they wanted to see which is that he said it and he has


done it. He said it is making America stronger and he said the


world is a horrible mess. Did he mean from when he signed it on


Friday or hasn't always a mess? A lot of people said it is


unconstitutional. That isn't necessarily true, the president has


a lot of legal leeway, even if it appears to be prejudiced against


certain religions. The accusation he is doing something unlawful, that


has not been proven whatsoever and it seems uncertain. This was the


decision of the people. There is a question about the effectiveness and


terrorism is a difficult thing to study. It is not studied as much as


it should be. What is consistent in most strategies is the hearts and


minds issue. This potentially does cause problems in that area. There


are is not a war on terrorism and immoral, it has become a war on


Muslims. Should Donald Trump come to the UK for this visit? This online


petition, every time we should it has gotten more signatures, more


than 700,000, heading toward 100,000. Will that make any


difference? I don't think it does. When it comes to the Queen and the


people she has met over Korean, in terms of dislike and petitions,


Donald isn't even close, I don't think. Once it has officially been


announced there will be a visit, because it takes place. I said


earlier, even if we snubbed him, it will be in such a particularly


British weight that he might not notice he is being snubbed. It will


go ahead. Presumably there will be demonstrations and protests and so


on as there have been in America? I am sure there will be and he will


tweet about that because he has incredibly thin skin. When I think


of it years the Obama 's had to put up with what they did and he is


president for five days and he is complaining about all the press not


liking him, it is like, suck it up a Donald, you have four more years to


go. Conceivably yet more years. Now, now. Do you think the visit should


go ahead because we had Theresa May in Washington, is not important talk


about trade and post Brexit and so one? We have to find our way in the


world. It is difficult to think of a realistic basis at present on which


you would deny him entry were not seek to do business with them. I


think that what is interesting, especially for the leadership, what


happened today, or over the weekend, is a sign of the risks for Theresa


May of having him here. Looking at images of Theresa May in Washington,


there was a lack of fear on her face, worried about what he might


say and what position... He held her hand. Imagine if he announced this


at the podium when he was with. If he comes and mixed statements, you


can make a statement which would be embarrassing for the British


government. There is a risk for them. I don't think there is a risk


he would come but it does bring political risks. He did not sit just


after she left and she didn't have too much time to react. A quick look


at the express. The Queen caught in Trump visited row over US ban on


refugees. As you were saying, she has seen it all before. She has and


she will continue doing what she does which is to make sure that she


keeps the monarchy in the best light and the state visit where it should


be, which is up there, pop and circumstance is what he wants and


what he will get. He wants her to watch playing golf at Balmoral. It


just seems bizarre. The list of things they trade, this is what we


want, this is what you get, not going to happen. But at a quick look


at other stories. The Financial Times again, they have a story about


MBA graduate salaries racing at the fastest rate for a decade. A golden


age for a job? It is a golden age for jobs if you are in a select


group. You get paid very well. We live in an economy, what comes out


at me, it is another side of inequality. This is a statistical


reality that unskilled workers have experienced over the past ten or 20


years, maybe more. Very low wage inflation, whereas at the higher


end, it is significant. This is consistent with a lot of the data we


are seeing. What is your experience on the jobs front? If you have


?300,000 it says here to pay for a nBA, the payoff at the end would be


great. For most people, it is completely unrealistic and when you


think about student that now, who then would think, I go X amount of


money, let me go and do this? It depends on who you are, what


industry you are going into and, unfortunately, where you get your


degree from. Somebody who does have ?300,000, I would bet, that is Roger


Federer. He is back. Rolling back the years. Aged 35, wins the


Australian. What is most interesting. He hasn't won a major


in almost five years. After being of the top of the game for that length


of the period, many people had written him off. His seeding was low


in tournaments recently. It is great to see this. 35 is both apparently.


Absolutely ancient. Be careful. I think back to Jack Nicholas, his


sixth Masters victory at 46, it is gripped to see somebody like this. I


keep thinking if only Andy had stayed in, he could have won this.


Are you and Andy fan? No, I am not a tennis fan. I just think it is


wonderful and it shows that age is not a barrier and somebody like him,


she has been training of his life, can still continue and the same


thing with Serena Williams. She is 35, 36 and they are saying she could


go for another four or five years. We'll Andy went another grand slam?


In terms of age, she is younger than Federer. As Jackie says, it


shouldn't be a bath. There is no particular reason to think he has


peaked. It is unlikely Roger Federer will return to the peak form he had


in the past. There has to be plenty more left in the town. One hopes, it


is good for the country, when he does do well. Good to talk to you


both. We will see you both later on. Like you for running through The


Papers with us. We will be back at half past 11 for another look at the


stories making The Papers. Chris Cleave knows


how to spin a story. His novels have been huge


bestsellers, gripping thrillers they