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On this week's Meet The Author, my guest is Sofie Kinsella. She will be

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talking about her latest book My Not So Perfect Life.

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Welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us

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tomorrow. Joining me is Robert Fox and former Conservative employment

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Minister Esther Mcveigh. The front pages, starting with the Daily

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Telegraph, leading analysis of plans to close A units in England in an

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effort to save money. It reports that up to one in six casualties

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departments face closure. Rent Revolution, the headline on the

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front of the Metro, referring to a shift in tone by the Conservatives

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from their right to buy policy towards affordable homes to rent.

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The Independent has a photo of the French far right leader Marine Le

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Pen as she launched her presidential campaign in France today and

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attacked a radical Islam. Blackmailing Beckham, the daily

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Mirror reports on a plot over hacked e-mails from David Beckham.

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Health tourism is the focus of the times. It reports hospitals will be

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legally obliged to charge foreign patients before they are allowed

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access to NHS health care. The garden looks at the

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controversial travel ban imposed by Donald Trump but rejected by a US

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appeals court. It looks like those defending the US president and his

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efforts to stop people travelling from seven many Muslim countries.

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I expected to see more of Donald Trump on the front pages but no. But

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there is a lot of Marine Le Pen instead. Here she is. She was

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appearing in Lyon today as she launched her campaign.

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Vive la haine, which I think long live hatred. Yes. It was the rage of

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the banlieues, which they do every ten years, badly. And those are the

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suburbs? That's right. The interesting thing is that is her

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constituency. I am worried about you and Mr Trump. We are not having him

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40 already, are we? I just thought he would feature more. -- for tea.

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The papers say Marine Le Pen is going in and she has a roaring start

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in the presidential election race. She'll win the first round but

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definitely not the second. You don't agree. I don't because we heard all

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of that about Mr Trump. What's been interesting since reporting last

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week from really depressed parts of France, very much the kind of rust

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belt area that Trump appealed to. They say we are behind one of the

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big union configurations, the CGT, but the only one who can really

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speak sent us this time his Marine Le Pen. Wait for a shock. We've

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heard from other politicians, particularly to do with Islamist

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fundamentalism in the US in particular, but also saying that we

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want a rethink of our relationship with the EU. And even the euro as

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they currency. And she's come out with putting France first. She wants

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to get into the, sort of, national feeling, the sense of the people

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she's coming forward with. As you say, whether it is the euro, whether

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it is talking in a debate to come out of the EU. She's also talking

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about wanting to tax imports. Also looking at contracts for foreign

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workers. To raise welfare. Cutting tax. She's appealing to everybody,

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giving them a pick and mix of things they can go to her for. Do you think

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she will win? Rob knows the country better. He feels she has support. I

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would not have thought that. Everything I've been reading has

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very much said it has always been in the French tradition anything but

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Marine Le Pen and the National front. She would get through on the

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first round but not the second. But if people are not tapping in and you

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are not hearing the coverage of the people she's appealing to, then that

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could be a way of keeping her off the front pages, but all I saw from

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the footage on the BBC, when they spoke to an audience afterwards,

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some were teachers, doctors, students, and they all said Marine

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Le Pen is the only one for us. So what you are saying is resonating

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from those 3000 in Lyon. But if they wanted somebody new, somebody

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different, who wasn't part of the political establishment in terms of

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had held elected office before they could pick Macron, who have twice as

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many people turn up at his launch, also in Lyon. He is part of the

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establishment. He went to the grand schools. He's been minister. He is

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never held elected office. We've heard that before. I think Marine Le

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Pen is a much better politician than her father, the founder of the front

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National, and I think she has populism. She is another one of the

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big populist leaders, saying, I know the people, I trust the people, the

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people trust me. I think he is an elite figure, very intelligent,

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absolutely top drawer, Macron will find it difficult to break that

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crust. In a way the establishment let themselves down. The people who

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should have been there, Fillon... I could not agree more. In the States,

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everybody said, we didn't want Trump, we didn't want Hillary,

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Hillary had problems with her foundation, her e-mails, why was she

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the Democrat candidate? C have two people who wouldn't necessarily come

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forward but the establishment has, they've let themselves down by doing

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things they should not have done. You are saying the establishment has

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rotten candidates? I didn't. But I think you have a point. They have

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done things so wrong for a long time and got away with it, but these

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people are now coming through. They've opened up the path that

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these people who you would not have thought would have been here

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together in the final. So it is really interesting. We will find out

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pretty soon what is going to happen. April, then many, if we need a

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second. And we have the Dutch. -- then May. Then we have the big ones,

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the Germans, and then the Italian ones will come somewhere in between.

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We will have somebody who does not agree with politics at all. It is

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rock and roll. Let's move on and talk about Brexit in various guises.

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There are so many different strands to the Brexit story. First of all on

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the Telegraph. Made to stand firm against rebels' attempts to wreck

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Brexit bill. -- Theresa May to stand firm. This would be by a number of

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amendments which would cause trouble. The government will not

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back any of them. How can they wrecked the Brexit bill with

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amendments if they don't get much support? I would not have thought

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the support was more than nine or ten. Amongst the Conservatives? Yes,

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couldn't really see that, some of these amendments it is like 100 have

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come forward. They are wrecking amendments, I think, one has gone

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through that you cannot trigger article 50 until we've had money put

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into Cardiff airport. Bless them for trying, but lots of things are

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coming forward like this. At the end of the day she is going to proceed.

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She is going to carry on. The vote last week was pretty much unanimous

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over 380 supporting it going forward. Ken Clarke? He is about the

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only one. He was the only one from the Conservatives. But we expected

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that. We knew that. Yes, stand firm, follow one through, and, you know,

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she is touring the right thing. We've also got on the FT, just

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quickly, Brexit having a negative effect already, says big business

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leaders. Hold the front page. How original of the FT. They've been

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writing that practically since the 23rd of June last year. When we

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actually leave, though... It might happen, but, you see, they have been

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doing that and they've been rather blown out of the water by the

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government of the Bank of England -- governor. And the statistics saying

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we are doing better than we thought it would be. On the front of the

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Independent, Jeremy Corbyn braced for fresh Brexit rebellion, it says.

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Diane Abbott also under pressure. This will be the story. It won't be

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the Conservatives. They've probably never been so united. This is the

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story, Diane Abbott has a six-day, having a migraine... A Brexit

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migraine. She said she was ill and that is why she didn't turn up. Her

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own party don't believe that. Caroline Flint saying that today.

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This will be interesting. What will she do next week? She cannot beat

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you with a migraine this coming week. She will have to vote. -- she

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cannot be all with a migraine. What will happen when other people didn't

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want to vote, they wanted at Stein, he said no and they've lost their

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place in the Shadow Cabinet. -- they wanted to abstain. I think this is

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the start of Jeremy Corbyn's demise and him going for what Diane Abbott

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has done. You think so? Do you think he will stick with her? -- I do.

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I don't think Jeremy Corbyn has fought through a Brexit strategy.

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One suspects he is in sympathy. He was not a great enthusiast for the

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EU. Arguably he campaigned more visibly than Theresa May did, who

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was supposed to be in Remain. I tweeted the other week that they

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should have been given a free vote because Brexit would have gone

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through if people had a free vote or not because more constituents and

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more MPs would have had to have voted with him. He could have done

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that. I think he's put himself in a pickle going forward. He was trying

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to appeal to the by-election in Stoke, the one in Copeland, he had

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to show his northern voters that he's in touch with his working

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class. But he isn't. He is pulling further apart. It is difficult for

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any leader, who does he follow, kind of thing, Metropolitan elite,

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working-class voters in the north, the two by-elections are in the

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north and that is why he went way. The health service. All this week

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across the BBC we will be looking at the state of the NHS. The Daily

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Telegraph says one in six A and the wards are facing closure. --

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accident and emergency wards. A lot of insight into that. They are

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really holding things together in a lot of places. Exactly. Talking of

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closing them down or and cutting them back, according to this story,

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which is very detailed, the plans are part of efforts to close a ?22

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billion debt. You cannot go on doing this. The thing is the NHS is going

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to need money. It will probably need a lot more money given the ageing

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population. We heard on your interview just before this

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programme, I think he was from... He was from a former NHS Trust. Yes. We

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know what is going to happen. But when will we finally confront it?

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Let me put it to you as a serving politician. Put it off today because

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it is such a big question. And it is about what you said about something

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else, dammed if you do dammed if you don't. But it is underfunded for

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what it is going to have to do and probably what it has today already.

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We will have a special tax. An insurance scheme in the middle of

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it. Part privatised with an insurance thing. Do we bring back

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that dreaded concept that I cannot see any British politician or

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political party doing it, the means test? They are very big questions.

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The Conservatives in the coalition spent a lot of money as Labour had.

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That appears from the figures we have seen to have tailed away, the

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amount of investment going in. The investment has gone in. The

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investments are going in. As we were saying before, there are so many

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demands on it now. Even with the money going in and increased money

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going in the demands are growing at a faster rate. Whether it is

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expectations, whether it is the cost of pharmaceutical goods, whether it

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is ageing population, social care attached to that, that will be the

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issue. But I think it is positive that now maybe people are going to

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have a proper adult conversation rather than being so tribal, locked

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and extreme parts of the debate, and not really solving the problem.

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Foreign patients to pay upfront for NHS care in the Times newspaper.

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Hospitals will be legally obliged to charge foreign patients. If somebody

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comes in and they really need help you do not ask to see a credit card,

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do you? No. This obviously has to work within the realms of humanity

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and what is right. But what do you need to do is find out who is

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eligible, who isn't eligible, and they need crisis treatment. They

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will be paying for it afterwards. So far they haven't done that. The fact

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they are just issuing them with the ability to do that with pay

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machines, nobody has ever asked before. We are going to have to say

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that it is in the International health service, it is the national

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Health Service, and people who paid for it need to get treatment from

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it. I just need to look at the rent revolution. It is in the Metro. A

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shake-up to give tenants longer agreements. We are all supposed to

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be homeowners. This is pretty big. It is huge. The homeowning

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democracy, that was Margaret Thatcher's slogan. Selling council

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houses. I can hear the brakes being slammed on, grinding gears, it is a

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big change, and it is because of the way the housing stock is run and

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rents are impossible, and it's very difficult for young people. A

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solution 40 years ago which was right isn't necessarily the solution

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now. You have so many precious. When David Cameron said we want to have

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all of these new homes, you know what, you never got the planning

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permission through. You can say whatever you want, actually people

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don't want them built in their local environment, it isn't going to

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happen. So then you have 300,000 people coming in every year, which

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is pretty much a city coming into the country, where are you going to

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house them? If you can't, you are not building enough, you will have

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to look at rent, affordability, that is a dilemma but we do have to have

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something. Supply and demand. There you go, basic. Basic economics. That

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is it for this hour. But you will both be back at 11:30pm. The poor

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viewers. I don't want to be here are my own. Coming up next, Meet The

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Author. Sophie Kinsella's new novel

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is called my My Not So Perfect Life, It's about a woman in her 20s

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who leads an apparently

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