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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be


With me are Caroline Frost, entertainment editor


at the Huffington Post UK, and Tony Grew, Parliamentary


Let's start tomorrow's front pages with the Daily Telegraph.


Alongside a picture of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge arriving


at the Baftas, the paper quotes the Justice Secretary,


Liz Truss, as saying wicked offenders won't be released early


in order to meet prison population targets.


The Express says there is fury at a new bid to wreck


Theresa May's Brexit Bill when it goes through the House of Lords.


We all need tasers to fight terror is the Metro's headline,


following a survey of Metropolitan Police officers


suggesting two in three believe the stun guns should be carried


The Times is predicting a high street revolt over proposed rises


The paper says pubs and restaurants fear they will vanish.


What a waste, declares the Mail, which claims mandarins have wasted


billions of taxpayers' money on failed schemes such as crashing


drones and plane tickets for asylum seekers.


And alongside a picture of Emma Stone, who has taken


Best Actress award for her role in La La land at the Baftas,


the Guardian reports that whistle-blowers face a full-frontal


Let's now move on to look at some of those papers. Who wants to start us


off? Tony, perhaps you can get us started with the Daily Telegraph's


front page. Forget jail numbers, criminals will do time. He was


saying it and what is it about? It is a speech that the Justice


Secretary is expected to make tomorrow. It marks a significant


change in one aspect of justice policy. Theresa May likes to joke, I


say it is a joke, I have never heard anyone laugh at it, so I guess she


just likes to say it, when Ken Clarke was just a secretary, she


liked to lock them up and he liked to let them out and now there is a


new Justice Secretary and it seems locking them up is the new priority.


This is a change from Liz Truss's predecessor, Michael Gove, who


talked about reducing numbers and called for the release of 500


prisoners serving minimum term public protection sentences. He


wanted more emphasis on rehabilitation and prevention. What


Liz Truss is expected to say tomorrow is the government now


thinks that people who have been convicted of crimes she regards as


we could well serve longer sentences and this is seen as a reaction to


some of the public who feel that people are given a sentence and


don't serve the full sentence, there is something wrong with that of the


system. Interesting to use the word wicked.


Labour had called for the prison population to be halved as it was in


1990. I had forgotten that was ever a target. It seems jolly


unrealistic. It sounds good, it sounds very promising, ringing down


on overcrowding in prisons and all the problems that that causes. The


chain goes on. You go to prison in unfavourable circumstances and you


come out often much more likely to offend, in some cases, and Labour


made this great promise. For me this is very much trying to square the


circle, trying to reduce the people in prison but not really going into


the small print of how you are going to perhaps cut problems and the


social problems that come. We know that inequality and drug addiction


and mental health problems are all part of this big social chain that


lead so many people to jail and until you tackle that, this use of


the word wicked can be bandied around, but you need to really


define your terms, I think, if you are going to specify who will stay


in and who will come out. Let's press on. The Times, I think we will


look at next. A High Street revolt over the rates rise. This is


business rates, a lot of pubs and restaurants will vanish.


Interestingly, the story here, a lot of big-name companies. We often hear


of small businesses terrified of rate rises. But these are big ones.


They are, and these hikes are due to come in at the end of March, or


April, and they will have huge cost implications. If you go into the


small print is the government have been swift to point out, in fact


rates will fall for many businesses and remain the same. This is very


much trying to... Philip Hammond is doing what chancellors do, which is


Move pots around to enable councils to spend money where it is most


needed. They are having to tackle the lobby ready, politically


powerful bigger chains, who do certainly have pool on the high


street and in Parliament. -- pull. It is linked to the value of


property. People think of London but a lot of places are hotspots around


the country. They emphasise this again and again and again, big


businesses, which have real value of over ?100,000. That is why


households are worried about eye watering rises. Oxford Street is


particular concerned they will face a significant rise. As someone who


lives in London, I have been on Oxford Street and business is not


bad for them. They can afford to pay more for social care. I have very


little time for this story. If it was hitting small business, I would


be concerned. These businesses, Peter Express, Wagamama, the last


time I was there, they didn't seem to be struggling. -- Pizza Express.


And a lot of small firms also complain about this. And one of the


problems is the government has been slowly strangling councils for the


last six years. Massive cuts in their budgets, and they are coming


up with these solutions that you can raise rates and council tax, but


actually, I think we all know that local council funding will need a


lot more than they will raise through these rate rises. There are


a lot of stories around tonight, an important one here. North Korea.


They are sizing up the Trump reaction to this missile launch. It


is fascinating. North Korea sets off yet another one of its missiles, at


the very time when President Trump is meeting and playing golf with the


Japanese Prime Minister, so Mr Trump comes out and says I support Japan.


That is at least a clear statement of policy, isn't it? It is good that


he got the name of the country right, and didn't insult anyone. He


didn't mention South Korea, who have a dog in the fight, being across the


border from North Korea. It is a rogue state, and very few countries


have influence over North Korea, really only China. This is the first


big foreign policy test for President Trump and so far he hasn't


started a nuclear war, so we should be pleased about that. That is, of


course, true. But it is a very serious situation, where as you say


China is in there, we don't know, Mr Trump's attitude to China seems to


swing around depending what issue he is facing. It is a difficult job,


being president of the United States. Not as much fun as he


anticipated. I'm sure those tweets fired off to Arnold Schwarzenegger


involve a bit of nostalgia. We really are rattling along. Who


considers themselves an expert in what happens at things like the


races? The Times has this great story, drink curbs to stop bad


behaviour at the races. I'm sure there is no bad behaviour from you


anywhere at any time, Carolyn, not tell us what the story is about.


Very similar to other sports in the past, even making's boon sport has


involved over imbibing and a certain amount of reverie which hasn't ended


well -- own sport. They will only be able to buy three glasses of water


and no more than four alcoholic drinks at a time, which were just


about finished me off. Do you mean having them or not having them? I


think the cost would be prohibitive. Nobody has seen bad drinking at the


races unless they have been to the Melbourne Cup, and I say that to all


Australians watching this. I am sure you hold that title with pride. At


some point they have to decide if they actually want drink. They are


being seen to be socially responsible, but obviously they are


still coining it, and these drinks are not cheap. If they really want


people not to drink, they shouldn't be available. At a football match


you can't bring drink in at all, but cricket now, massive amounts of


drinking, almost everywhere else. Wimbledon, Ulph courses, everywhere.


Racing used to be a middle-class sport and some working-class people


have come along and urinated into a glass, and the whole thing has


changed as Mac golf courses. -- golf courses. The second day of the


festival was marred by photographs of footballers getting drunk, women


baring their breasts and two people urinating into their beer glasses.


Something must be done. I hadn't quite looked at this as a class


-based issue, I must say. Let's go on to the Daily Mail. Their front


page here. What a waste, they say. What is the waste they are referring


to? What is it about? Surprisingly, in an extremely complicated


organisations such as the government, waste does happen. They


have information from 20 government departments and put it to find out


where government money has been wasted, important to point out that


money the government has admitted they have wasted, and they have


recovered sums of ?300,000. The first horrible example they pick up


on is almost ?2 million squandered on deportation fight for failed


asylum seekers, which is something where the Daily Mail might have an


interest. This is where they paid for the tickets and they didn't go.


They have something called the court system, which the Daily Mail doesn't


approve of is the judge enemies of the people. That these people


shouldn't be deported, and quite rightly, the cost of their ticket


comes back to the government. They are complaining that RAF drones


which are tested crashed, which is the point of testing drones. And a


ride off by the MoD, which is very wasteful, and defence is notorious


for overspend and problems with equipment. Obviously you could pick


out things that sound a bit silly, but it does seem ready awful,


doesn't it, some of the things that go on. It is the old pennies and


pounds argument, isn't it? If you are allowing money to go wasted on


small things, what about the big things? In the mail seems to have


identified them. That is what it is all about. -- the Daily Mail. You


could say ?626 being wasted on Christmas bonuses, that is an extra


?10 each of those individuals got. I think this is chipping away at


trustworthiness. That the government can't be trusted with that much


money. I don't know what they are proposing, that they should have


less of it, that there should be a transparency issue... We will see


what comes out in the response. And you were there tonight. At the Royal


Albert Hall, freezing away, but there is Emma Stone, who got the


Best Actress award. She doesn't look as though she is wearing enough. I


was wearing slightly more than that, you will be pleased to hear. She has


a massive smile on her face, she won the gong for wearing this out fit in


minus three degrees and her sterling work in La La Land. But the real


star of the night was the Duchess of Cambridge. And their pictures on the


front of the Daily Telegraph there. As usual, they stole the limelight


on the red carpet. Yes, in an Alexander McQueen down. I can tell


from looking at it, it is black with ice cream cones on it, that is


Alexander McQueen. For once you have done your homework. What you said in


the first section is really true, you have these huge US stars who are


their own planet, ego, and a minor royal walks into the shop and their


knees go weak. Not that they are minor royals. We understand the


point exactly. That is the papers for the sour.


-- That's it for The Papers this hour.


Coming up next, it is The Film Review.


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