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That was in it sets like Reagan. We have part of a wide shot. He is

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making it sound so easy. If it was so easy, why hasn't it been done so

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far? We had his supporter who came up on the stage. Not at all

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scripted. I am sure it was all unscripted! He was overwhelmed! He

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said that he knew Mr Trump would deliver. To be fair, the guy has

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only been in office for one month. It is a four-year term. He is trying

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to get people behind him. But you look at that and I am sure to some

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Americans and, without trying to start a war between our countries, I

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shall most Britons would have looked at that chap and thought, they would

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have raised an eyebrow or sniffed at this guy. He was a happy looking

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chap and Trump was happy to bring him up and let this average looking

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guy, he had no idea what he was going to say, be his spokesman and

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he was the stronger spokesman he could have had. He keeps talking

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about fake news. BBC News have carried his speech unedited for

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about 40 minutes, so no one is twisting his words. It is the first

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sign of a dictator when people talk about fake news. What's fake about

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carrying his speech unedited for 40 minutes. That's one of the big

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problems. He is in a position now where he is starting... It is only

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one month in, he will have to start delivering on some of these things.

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It is all very well to talk about the healthcare than solving Middle

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East problems, but it's that tough line on immigration, which works

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well with that crowd. He was in his home territory. But there will come

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a time when we will have -- it will have to start delivering on his

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promises. I think again he has brought forward solutions, even some

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as simple as the pipe. It seems something only a businessman would

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have notice. This is a non-partisan sort of divided. The us and them,

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blue-collar, average worker versus Leeds. He said he demanded the pipe

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was built here. That's hitting it out of the park. Talking about

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negotiations, he also brought up air force on. As I was listening to

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this, most people understand why you need two planes and you have someone

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as important as the president of the United States. Did think it was

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right for him to bring those negotiations out of the public? He

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says he is the businessman, he does the deals. It is all very well doing

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some of those things, like the deal with the Prime Minister in Japan,

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people like that language, but it is very hard to translate that to

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geopolitics and all of the big structures. He picks on this little

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emblematic things. What he will have to start doing the things. The

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Middle East solution, he says they will build safe zones, but that's

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impossible to do. Simplistic lines like, we will get rid of all the bad

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guys. I'm going to end drugs coming to America. Well, good luck with

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that. The businessman, the instruction is always to say, of

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course I can, then figure it out later. You can sell that stuff but

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you could say the same thing when John F. Kennedy said, we will put a

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man on the moon in ten years. That was an ask and they did it. At least

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he has the impetus and the push forward to motivate and to change

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the level of confidence in America and I think that's part of what

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being a leader is. Again, Reagan wasn't necessarily thinking about

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the plans himself, he had people to do that, but he could get up in his

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Uncle Ron sort of way to explain these things. A different style, but

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it is very Reagan. He referenced wrecks it in his speech and as

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example of people taking back control. -- referenced Brexit. Some

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people might think Brexit is a long way from being under control, as

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there is a lot of uncertainty. It is interesting. One of the most

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interesting thing is the idea of that you can't trust anything you

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see on TV and the news. He kept saying they wouldn't pan around at

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the crowd, but of course not as they will focus on a man the speech. He

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is very focused on the crowd. I mean, the whole world is watching

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him. The world is watching this man. 35% tax on goods. He was talking

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about industry in the country. What did you make of the language that he

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used? Slightly threatening perhaps? They will pay a big rise if they

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leave. The interesting thing, and I speak to a lot of people in business

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and trade and they do have worries about protectionism. But I don't

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think he will be protectionist. What he didn't say is that the stick, but

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for most of these companies the main thing is he will bring down business

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rates. The highest in the world, about 35%. He was about 15%, which

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is still a benefit for most. So most of these companies will want to come

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back. He is the type of guy who will bring back... The official estimate

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is about $3 trillion, it could be as high as $6 trillion that sitting

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offshore. So as Obama did before him, he is using it in his effective

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way. If we could lower taxes in a way that brings all of that offshore

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work back on great, but I think that's very unlikely. By lowering

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taxes he lowers the revenue he will need to create some of the things he

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wants to do, like we build the military. It is the argument where

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on the one hand he says he will cut taxes, but on the other hand he

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promises all of this sort of infrastructure. Just because we need

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to go onto the papers, what do you make of your standing on your

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president of broad? Because you are abroad. The reaction to him.

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Europeans will never understand him and will look down on him, just as

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the elites in America look down on him. When he comes over here he will

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be one step below Hitler and the world's most hated man and it really

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doesn't matter because it doesn't bother him. In some respects, and I

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don't want to sound arrogant, but it's a sovereign country that

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considers itself to be exceptional and always has been. We do try to do

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the right thing. You know, we will do what we think is right. Shall we

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go back to the job that we brought you into? That was a distraction!

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Will start with the Observer. You can lead us, Vincent. The main story

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is chaos looming for EU citizens who want to stay in Britain. This is a

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leaked document from Euro-MPs in the European Parliament and they say the

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trouble is that when we finally have Brexit, the status of the EU

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citizens in Britain is uncertain. We already know this and Theresa May

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say she will solve it. It is still quite unclear and the MPs say that

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we do not have good emigration records and what will the status of

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these people be? The suggestion is that many EU citizens living in the

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UK, possibly millions of them, will be in a stranded illegal no man's

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land. This is some of the problems that people like Donald Trump and

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who wants to take back control, the Observer is saying control is

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lacking. And I say fake news. I do think we have had all of these

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Brexit scare stories and for every story that goes this way it could

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also go that way. Immigration was never the problem for me. I know I

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was fought along those lines but for me it was about having control over

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immigration not the EU Commission. This is something that will be

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sorted out. I'm not worried about the people who are already here.

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Most of them fall under a grandfather clause, if you are

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already here you should still be entitled to that and we still have

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two years to work out Article 50. I can understand the problems but if

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you were worried about every obstacle, then we would never put a

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man on the moon. Let us stick with Brexit because in the Sunday Times

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they link at Brexit with foreign aid. What is this? This is a Donald

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Trump out of the deal. The ministers are at war over plans to divert

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foreign aid spending from wherever it goes to Eastern Bloc countries in

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the EU. We were talking before, Poland and who else? Hungary? But we

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want to buy off our friends within the European Union to make it so we

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have people on the inside helping us negotiate our way out and who knows?

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We could be speeding along the exit of other countries. You never know.

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This is an internecine war between departments. You can't use this

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money to spend in Europe, it needs to go elsewhere. Many people

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listening to this are wondering why we would centred elsewhere. Why

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don't we use it and keep it here? That is the purest version of the

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article, that is what people in the UK want. Cash that is prompting to

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wasteful products as referred to. You get into an argument about

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whether or not you have foreign aid, is a better spent in Asia and Africa

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or somewhere like India which has a fast-growing economy or should you

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be putting it into eastern European countries where you can love rigid

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trade deal. And the point of this story is that officials in Downing

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Street and we can use it to get a good trade deal. Money spent should

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benefit this country. Countries work on their own self-interest. There

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have been stories in the past of deals gone awry because there is so

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much cash to get rid of we don't know what to do with it. They have

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to meet funding goals so Germany will not spend 2% on defence towards

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Nato will hearing today but meanwhile we have cash rolling

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around under a bomb with the 4 billion years to help Iranians.

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Sitting there on the at an airport. It makes you wonder. In talking

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about foreign aid, India says they never asked for it but they were

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given it. Yes. This is the Indian High Commissioner and his wife. They

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say they never asked for foreign aid, is said they were thinking. Why

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does India get it? They have a fast improving economy. He does say that

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is a win-win situation for them and the sky is the limit for the two

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countries together. So it is a very positive interview but it is used by

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the Sunday Express rather sceptically about how the money is

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spent is another example should this money really be going to India?

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India is quite a balkanised country in many ways. There is a huge middle

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class and a huge amount of money. But there are still extremely poor

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areas and there is still an argument for spending international aid. I

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think the Institute of economic affairs points out that it is money

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that goes from our poor to their reach. The money always goes to the

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wrong places. Best aid is people coming to this country and working

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and sending a portion of their hard earned money back home. For things

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that they care about instead of just being dumped without any idea of

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where it is going. Russia is allegedly involved in an

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assassination plot. This one is just amazing. To the point where we need

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to queue the James Bond theme. The Kremlin, according to MI5 or MI6...

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MI6. And people in the United States have researched this. The Kremlin

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had plotted to oust the Montenegro government, kill the Prime Minister

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and take over the Parliament. And this is the opening scene of a Bond

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film. They had a pair of people who are setting this up and had spent

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months organising it. The two people spent months is overseeing the

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recruitment and equipping of a small force of Serbian nationals to attack

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the Parliament building disguised as a local police and an kill the Prime

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Minister. I mean that... And not just on any day, but on election

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day. So despite the difficulties with and assassinations, they were

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going to do it on a particular day as well. They are trying to deny

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that they are not making a good president about it are they? The

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heart is about Russian meddling. Talking about the Defence Secretary

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were they won about a change in the way the Kremlin medals and

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countries. It feeds into that broad theme of meddling across Europe and

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across the world. An increasing sense of alarm amongst government

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sources because of the closeness of America to Vladimir Putin as well

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and that is one of the problems. Where it gets interesting is that

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Vladimir Putin is making the argument that this is a form of

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expansionism. Nato... That is the moral equivalent that does not

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equate. Countries joining Nato for their own defence. This is markedly

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different from expansion of the Russian Federation. Did we point out

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that the reason they were doing this, allegedly, is because they

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were not too happy about the plans of Montenegro to join Nato? Exactly.

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Vincent. Take a screw the story dominating the front of the Mail on

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Sunday? A couple of pages inside as well. More on the allegations

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against the former Prime Minister Sir Ted Heath. He was accused of sex

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crimes. One of the many people in the Westminster release was put in

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the frame for this. It seems largely to centre on the fact that police,

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the police chief who started this enquiry about a year ago is

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convinced according to the source, that Ted Heath is 120% guilty.

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People around him said he could not do these crimes because he could not

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drive a car yet photos have emerged of Ted Heath posing in a car. It has

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reignited the idea of these allegations and the Mail on Sunday's

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line is that it is a witch-hunt. We saw in Britain and we have seen it

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before. The same territory here. The question we are being asked is

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assured these allegations still be being investigated by police at a

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huge cost? I will jump in there. I would like to really touch on the

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link and story. Do you have the sport pages? In the meantime, off

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the back of the story, there is a statement that has been released

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now, a statement by the Wiltshire police and I will go through the

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main lines here. The chief Constable states in an open letter published

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back in December 2016 that it is his role to ensure the investigation is

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necessary. If abuse has occurred then it remains relevant to support

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those affected and to seek to bring to justice any person still living

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who may have committed associated criminal offences. It is important

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to identify any vulnerable individuals who require

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safeguarding. The role of the police service is to impartially

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investigate allegations that without fear or favour and go where the

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evidence takes us. We'll see where this goes but it is sorry that was

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ongoing. Now, Lincoln City. I would like to recuse myself. I may not

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understand this. It is just a massive story. A huge story. The

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argument that a nonleague club could do so well. And the back of the Mail

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on Sunday, is that it is Linc-possible. Leicester City is

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out, isn't it? Yes. They are out. They are not having a wonderful

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season. So you are in the final eight? The quarter-finals? Yes. A

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few games away from the final. Our chances of winning are slim but the

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chances of them getting this far with slim. We love these fairytale

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stories from the footballing world. It is nice to see a change about in

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big names are a lot of people. And especially for the fans. I should

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have put a bet on. That would have been better. I did not put a dent on

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Trump either so... Charlie and Vincent, thank you very much. -- did

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not put a bet on Trump either. You can read a detailed review of

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the papers on our website. Seven days a week on BBC .co .uk. We have

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