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Welcome back. A look at the papers. With me is the former Pensions


Minister and from the Evening Standard. Only one story. The


Westminster story. A picture of the police surrounding the attacker. The


headline on your screen. The Daily Express uses a similar photo. It


covers the MP who tried to save the life of police officer Keith Palmer.


MP Tobias Ellwood shown helping paramedics. The time is also uses


its front page to show a picture of the attack. Here is The Daily


Telegraph, opening with Theresa May's message saying that terror is


doomed to fail. And The Daily Mirror showing an attack on democracy.


Paramedics taking away the attacker on a stretcher. And the Daily Mail


has another picture of the attacker. A close-up. Just one more, the i.


Conservative MP Tobias Ellwood trying to save Keith Palmer in the


aftermath of the attack. Let us begin. Just before we start with the


Guardian, we will look at a picture of the day, everyone trying to save


poor old Keith Palmer, 48 years old, 15 years of service, a father and


husband. What did you hear in your office? Did you know the enormity of


what was happening? Not at the time did I realise. I just heard


unbelievable commotion and shouting. Now, with hindsight, obviously, the


shots and the sirens and helicopters. It was almost instant.


It sounded like a demonstration. I have never heard such commotion. Our


hearts go out to Palmer's family. These are brave policemen who put


their lives on the line to save us. You don't expect these things do


happen but when they do, it hits home. It is something else to run


towards danger when everyone else goes away from it. Absolutely. And


the courage they showed just to keep our society going. Of course, the


whole thing does raise questions about security. Shouldn't all


policemen at Westminster be armed, because he was not armed. And also


security. You are talking specifically about policemen around


Westminster, the complex of Westminster. They should always


preserve the society we have. But whether we should have better


security at Westminster, whether certain areas of Westminster should


not be open to the public... I mean, we must look at it. But we must


carry on the way we do, of course. With Buckingham Palace and ten


Downing St, this is it. It is the heart of our government and the


heart of the seat of power, really. What is worrying about this is that


this terrorist was armed with a knife which looks like a kitchen


knife. A pen knife, almost. And he drove a 4X4. No, it was a big


hunting knife. We will look for a picture. This man was running at a


man who was crazed and running at him. And he had no defence in that


sense. Yet he did not flinch. He went forward to do his job, knowing,


probably, that he was certainly putting his life at risk. Our


policeman really do guard our Parliament and there are policemen


all the time around that area, but not all are armed. It look so this


was a weak spot in security. Security around all of the areas of


Parliament and Downing Street has been hugely tightened. We should


always look at the way, and this happened in Nice and Berlin, how


terrorists are using cars. Correct. The way they are using... We think


of terror as highly specialised. You know, bombs being made and that sort


of thing, and we direct our surveillance to that. It was a


Hyundai... How many people have those. They say they know what


inspired him. You would imagine someone claims responsibility. It is


a year to the day that the attack happened in Brussels. The 22nd of


March. The Monis Brown Ideye in -- modus operandi in Nice was clear. We


should look at pedestrians, should they get as close to Parliament?


Those sorts of things will have a proper further review of security. I


just feel so terrible for people who have lost their lives, their


families and friends, and who are seriously ill. And the visitors on


Westminster Bridge who have just walked... I mean, any of us could


have been there. Absolutely. Let us look at the Express. Can you see the


red ring there? That is the knife. You can see it is almost twice the


size of that policemen's boot. It is a substantial weapon. If they know


the identity of this man, obviously it will raise questions about


whether they missed something. And at what point do you arrest someone?


You cannot watch everyone all the time. You absolutely cannot. That is


where there is the bravery of our security forces to put themselves on


the line, because you know that you cannot save everybody, and they are


there waiting to protect people. But as we have seen today, sadly, there


are some times you cannot protect without shutting down lives. This is


not going to change our way of life. We will never give in to terror. All


three of us go to Westminster quite regularly. Presumably we have walked


over Westminster Bridge to the Palace of Westminster. Should there


be bollards across? Do you just have to accept there is a risk? We need


to look at the safety of pedestrians in that area. I will be there


tomorrow and I will go over that bridge and I will go through there.


We must not let this damage our way of life. But if there are


adjustments we can make they will obviously... I think we can minor


adjustments which safeguard... We need to make it more difficult for


somebody minded to do this to just walk in. At the same time, if we


make it completely a fortress, then in a way we have destroyed the


idea... Parliament is a place where we should all be able to go. You can


do different things. I was that Birmingham Town Hall recently and it


has bollards that go up and down. You don't need to obstruct it all


the time. You can see still see a wonderful view of Parliament from


the other side of the road, not necessarily from the pavement


immediately next to Parliament. To stock the car, they would need


bollards across Westminster Bridge, which would be an intrusion of the


way we live. -- stop. In my opinion. It looks like he was trying to enter


the other Muntari estate through the side railings where there are the


big black bollards on the street. The railings were too strong for


him. Then he ran around because the pavement is right next to


Parliament, and get in. But obviously they practise for this an


awful lot. You would always hope they never need to use it. But on


the weekend. And if you look at the building of Parliament, there is a


concrete wall that is huge to stop the public, because they queue up.


It was really a weak point on the corner to let it in. A weak point


there, because at many times of the day that gate is open because cars


have to go in and out. If you allow pedestrians on that side of the


road, in theory, like happens today, they would be able to get through,


even if they have to wait until the car gets out. Policemen are waiting


there, they blew the whistle, and they stop pedestrians coming across


the driveway when cars are coming out. But if we have no pedestrians


on that particular side of the pavement, then there would not


necessarily have been any pedestrians in the way of the car


going across, and there would not have been any way in which he could


have just run around and gone in that way. But police will be looking


at that. We will learn from it. You cannot have 100% security. There


will always be someone willing to exploit exploits. At least it was a


lone attacker, not a group of people like has happened before. We need to


know more about him and whether he had a motivation and whether there


is a backup team somewhere. We will find out. We salute the


extraordinary bravery of Keith Palmer, but also the selflessness of


Conservatives MP Tobias Ellwood. And he lost his brother in the Bali


Bombing. It is a former soldier, he would be used to this. All the


others were ushering him back and he said "no." He is, apparently


according to the reports in the i, he was trying to give life-support,


mouth-to-mouth, to PC Palmer. You can see a picture on the back of the


i. We heard of MPs being ushered back into Portcullis House, and he


went through them, and someone said it looked like was on mission.


Having lost a brother to terrorism and having been in the forces, this


is something he had seen, and I guess he felt, you know, all credit


to him in a way, responsibility. I saw an interview of someone, an MP


in the Parliament lockdown, and he said it is less than a year since


poor old Jo Cox was murdered, and it is on the back of MPs' minds. We


have to have an open mind. There are precautions we can take, but we have


to have extra security. Douglas, to a certain extent. If you like the


value of what MPs do, well, it has gone down a bit. If you want to


encourage the feeling, and I think with Jo Cox and other people, steps


need to be taken. When MPs are doing their surgery. We will have to


change at some point. But on the other hand, they will not win. We


are just going to have another quick look at the Guardian. Because you


can see Tobias Ellwood there in the midst of it all with everyone else.


Paramedics around as well. He is in the midst of that trying as best as


he can. Tonight as he reflects on that, I am sure his family are proud


of him, but he might be shocked. It is shocking for everyone. He is


sitting there being locked down, not knowing what is going on. It is


clear the police and security forces knew exactly what they were doing in


their strategy of making sure that anyone who was moving was someone


who would not be supposed to be moving. They were worried there was


a second attacker around Parliament by the Times, the front page, you


can see what we were just talking about. The weak point in the


perimeter at if you will. The gates. It goes into New Palace Yard and it


is difficult to prevent pedestrians from being in this area. You can see


in the top right there, this is the point. Police. Pedestrians either


side there as members of Parliament come in or out in their car. It is a


car entrance so pedestrians are not the focus. Exactly. A pedestrian


could run through, as happened today. It is possible, we were


looking at the map of where he crashed into the railings opposite


portcullis house, around the corner, it is possible they reacted to that,


as you would. And they were somewhat distracted as he ran around the


corner. Which is why we need to find out if that was the plan, he had


planned to cause a distraction for those and then get into Parliament


in that weak spot. The carriage gates are left slightly ajar because


they are allowing cars in and out. A car does not fill up the entire


space when the gates open, a person could run in an hour but then there


is a policeman they're supposed to stop them. What you also see in that


picture are number of armed officers, I can see maybe for all


five of them there. The guys in the yellow jacket, they are an unarmed


which underlines what you are saying earlier for you and these security


men arrived quite quickly. The noise that went on the helicopters, there


were sirens there were people running. It was a


rapid response. Normally our police are an unarmed


and that is something that should not change. But in this sort of


situation, at Westminster maybe we should think of that. They will be


looking into that. There is no doubt that the government will react


quickly, that Parliament will react quickly. Theresa May said tonight


that Parliament is ingrained with the freedom spirit. And one thing a


hessian social media over the last few hours is this picture. We are


not afraid. It underlines what we have both been saying that we cannot


be cowled by this sort of thing. Again, on the front of the metro


there. The knife by the boot. This echoes what was said when Parliament


was bombed during the war. Churchill said we would rebuild Parliament


exactly as it stood. Just to emphasise that things will not


change. We are not afraid. Can we put the other side to this, 40


people have now been injured and as we said, stopping cars is very


difficult. People will all be standing firm and etc but people


will be unnerved. In the grand scheme of things we live in a


dangerous world and we know that there are bad people out there but


we must not let it change our way of life. And we have got fantastic


security forces. Fantastic belief forces. They will learn and they


will adjust and they are doing their utmost to keep the public safe.


There will always be accidents that happen in a different way people 's


lives are sometimes at risk. But if you let that put you off your daily


life, if you let that stop you from doing what we want to do which is to


enjoy our freedom. We have eight free society which... Which comes


with certain risks. It does have certain risks and we must make sure


that we protect ourselves as best we can. The front of the Mirror has not


hidden the identity of the attacker, possibly the best image of him


moments before he died. Some people commenting that he is Asian, that


does not seem so to me, we will leave that up in the air. It is


difficult to see from this angle. He has a beard. We should not judge his


ethnicity. In fact, that is a very good point. In the attack in Nice,


it is one thing to be inspired by Islamic State and another thing to


be associated. Many people have mental problems, alcoholism,


depression, whatever, whose find inspiration from these groups but


are not in direct contact. This again raises the question that we


still have to look at our society as this person is someone from our


society and as why he wants to do this. That battle to make sure that


the younger generation is not influenced by this. We must keep


doing that. They must share our belief. Increasingly, the focus here


is an petty criminals were going into prison and being radicalised.


Social media as well. Many people are being converted in prison to


Islam. There are many things going on in prison that we don't know


enough about. I think that is why we are looking to build new prisons. We


know that the overcrowding in prisons can bring certain


unfortunate relationships and radicalisation is more likely in far


more overcrowded conditions. I love this picture at the top of the


mirror. The sunset over Parliament. A beautiful sky. The Parliamentary


building is wonderful. Not broken. 13 terror attacks in four yes. We


have had, what, three now that have been successful? The ratio, when you


compare it to European countries, is astonishingly good. Yes. Far better


than France. This is the worst since 2005. Fill in that sense we must not


be complacent. But we need to give credit to our security service.


There will be focus again on this attackers associate, whether


opportunities were missed. Security services working day and night on


this and there is so much happening that we are not told about that we


may not know about. One policeman described it tonight as having


certain people who will drift into the upper echelon who must be


watched 24 hours and then some will drop down list of priority and they


had and flows and it may be that he was someone that they were watching


who disappeared off the radar and suddenly re-emerged. There is no


accounting for that. And surveillance must have limits on our


society. We would not want to become a police state. There needs to be a


balance. This is what the French Tom Lee, they have a list as long as


your arm. If you were to staff offices around the clock on each one


of them, you would need an army. Let's have a look at the Telegraph.


They carry a quote from the Prime Minister "We will never allow evil


to drive us apart. You both pick out this part which... The weak spot,


the Telegraph makes mention of it. A very good report about the carriage


Gates. It mentions the fact that the gate, known as the carriage Gates,


is always manned by two police officers who normally leave it


slightly ajar because it is so frequently used. Again, I am sure,


there will be a long investigation on what happened and measures may be


taken and maybe that is the weak spot that this terrorist knew about.


This is what it could be. But, as the Prime Minister said, you know,


we are going to be defiant. I will be at work tomorrow. We will all be


that there tomorrow to show that this does not the rail, in any way


at all, our democracy, the worker Parliament does on behalf of the


people of this country and the work that all of the security forces and


policeman do. But we will be starting with prayer, I believe, for


all of the victims and for their families. It has been very good


having your company here this evening. Before we say goodbye,


let's just have a look at of Westminster this evening. There it


is. A splendid scene in Westminster on such a sad day but, our ministers


will be there in their offices tomorrow. They all have great


stamina and we will be reporting from Westminster tomorrow as well.


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