23/03/2017 The Papers


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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the the papers will be

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With me are the political commentator Lance Price

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and the Deputy Editor of the Express, Michael Booker.

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in. We will not go through all of in. We will not go through all of

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the front pages, because this is just a quick look at the stories,

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well, the one story, of course, dominating all the front pages, and

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we will look in more depth at 11:30 p.m.. The Financial Times is where

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we'll begin. Home-grown Islamist named by police as Westminster

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attacker. Known to the intelligence services, but some time ago?

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that particular moment, he had sort that particular moment, he had sort

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of fallen off the radar and was not part of any current investigation,

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but it is interesting, and it brings the question, what makes you part of

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a current investigation? If you have previously been known or

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investigated for extremist views. It goes to show the real difficulty

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that security forces have and monitoring absolutely everyone. I

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believe there are something like 3000 or 4000 Islamic extremists that

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are known out there that they have been monitoring. And they have to

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prioritise. And unfortunately, in this case, someone who has

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previously been on the radar has now fallen off the radar, has done this

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horrific act, and obviously, questions have been asked of MI5 and

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the security services. But at the same time, you have to have a huge

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amount of sympathy for them, because how do they stop everything? A lone

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wolf, anyone can get into a car and do what he did. That's the sad fact

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of this, that's the shocking thing, that anyone can do this. Yes, and

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his connections will be part of the investigation. The Daily Express, at

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risk of talking to your paper with Lands first of all, Westminster

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killer was a teacher. So we are starting to find out more about him.

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He wasn't named straightaway, now we know his birth name in addition to

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his pseudonym. Yes, we are finding out more about

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him, and part of me feels a little uncomfortable about that, because

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people who do these things sometimes seek notoriety, and USB careful not

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to give that. But there are of course questions about his

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background, and his motivation. We know that he has got children, that

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he is in that sense, a family man, and are -- and unlikely profile,

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perhaps, for someone to commit this atrocity. But that might be one of

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the reasons, one of many, that the police did not regard him as an

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ongoing threat. Unfortunately, I would say that this even if Michael

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was not here, the Daily Express does not seem to be the papers, seeking

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to point a finger of blame, suggesting he should have been more

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actively investigated in the current circumstances. From what we know him

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so far, it is understandable why the police would not do that.

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Yes, their work on all convictions in the past, and paper as saying

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that is why he converted to Islam, in prison.

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Yes, we understand he converted and changed his name while in prison,

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and we have heard of this previously without the cases where people who

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have been radicalised in British prisons do appear to have their own

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record. A lot of prisons have this problem, of Ghetto wising their

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prisoners in a radical and played where views are being exchanged, and

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people who find themselves in prison go there because they want to fit

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in, and they end up being radicalised, and they come out, and

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these are the consequences. British attacker fell off MI5 radar,

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says the i. But eight people arrested in a number of raids. So

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how alone he was in what he did, we are yet to discover.

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Yes, and the security experts you have been interviewing all day on

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News 24 have made that point quite effectively, that there may be

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people who appear to be acting alone, but of course, nobody in life

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acts completely alone, and there are very few people that nobody around

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them has any hint or suspicion of what they are getting up to. But it

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is possible that somebody just decides to tell nobody, to go off

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and do something like this, and in that sense, it doesn't appear to

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have been a large-scale conspiracy. One of the subheadings here, Kent

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born father of three had convictions for violence. This man, Adrian

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Helms, was from Dartford in Kent -- Adrian Elms, and also lived at

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various times in Rye and Crawley in East Sussex, and Eastbourne in East

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Sussex as well. We're told the same man appears to have been convicted

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of a knife crime in 2003 in Eastbourne, and that day tallies

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with the Met's information about previous convictions. The other

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issue as well here is, he was said to have been shot by the protection

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officer who was with the Defence Secretary, and that is another

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concern, isn't it? Yes, it is a concern, because if he

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had not been there just by chance, because the Defence Secretary was

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going into Parliament at that time, he could have got even further, and

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there could have been even more horror in Parliament yesterday. They

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are now looking at beefing up security at Parliament dates and all

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around there, and there are now people calling for police in

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sensitive locations to be armed, and a lot of people are agreeing with

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that at this time. A lot of people are saying there

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would be a knee jerk reaction to this. You have spent a lot of time

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in Parliament, and you know how heavy the security presence is there

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a risk in the bay. The security presence is very heavy,

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but some MPs have remarked that perhaps the palace gates, as they

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are called, which he went through, the weak link. The fact is that MPs,

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ministers, the Prime Minister, are coming through those gates all the

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time during the day, and part of keeping them safe is getting them

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into the confines of the Palace of Westminster quickly. So it is not a

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view solution might just keep the gates shut and have lots of armed

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police around. It creates as many problems as it solves.

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Having got somebody with a gun, you have still got a human being, so

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there is still an element of human error. So even if there had been

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people with guns at those gates, you cannot say 100% that you cant stop

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everybody. They are not quick to shoot, they?

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On the eye, there are thousands of pictures of those people who

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gathered in Trafalgar Square this evening for the habitual, but on the

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Mirror, there are pictures of people lighting candles, a group of young

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people there. Britain's defiant message to vile peddlers of terror

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cash evil will not win. And we had Theresa May making a statement to

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the House of Commons, saying we need to carry out millions of acts of

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normal everyday life. People not put off gathering in large numbers a

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stone's throw from Parliament. I think this is a fantastic front

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page, and it reflects the best of Britain, and not just Britain, but

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countries around the world, respond to incidents like this. We come

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together, we don't allow terrorists and extremists to drivers apart, and

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the kind of expression that is shown by the big picture there in

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Trafalgar Square people come together, but I think even people

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sitting at home watching that on the television, you don't have to go

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there and actually be there to feel a sense of a country determined not

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to allow themselves to fall victim to exactly what the terrorists would

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like us to do. I got a sense last night going home

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fairly late, went to Liverpool Street At Double Station, A Big

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Central London Station. People Still Seem Quite Relaxed, And There Were

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20 People Around. Again, This Morning, Foreign Students Have Been

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Mixed Up In The Stack, And There Were Plenty Of Those Still Wondering

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Around, Feeling Safe In This Country, And They Were Reassured, I

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Think, To See A Lot More Police With Guns In Central London This Morning.

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And A Quick Look At The Metro. London stands united, head of faith

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leave vigil in wake of Westminster carnage. That is our quick look at

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the front pages, but we'll be back again from more in-depth look at

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those headlines at 11:30pm with Lan St Michael. Join us then if you can.

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Next, the weather.

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