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Wednesday's terror attack. The investigation continues and one man

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remains in custody. The United States says it is investigating

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coalition air strikes that were carried out in Western Mosul,

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killing dozens of civilians. Hello, and welcome to our look ahead

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to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow morning on our breakfast

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tables. With me Ruefli, a Banking Group adviser. And John rental,

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Chief political column columnist at the Independent. The Sunday Times

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claims EU migrants living in Britain will continue to receive Child

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benefit after Britain leaves. The Observer reports on the coalition

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air strikes in Mosul, which it says have caused at least 150 civilians

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and caused international outrage -- killed at least 150 civilians. The

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Sunday Express's front-page features the Conservative MP Tobias Ellwood

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and says he has spoken for the first time since trying to stave PC Keith

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Palmer -- save PC Keith Palmer in Wednesday's terror attack. The mail

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reports that the air ambulance Prince William co-pilot had a near

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miss with a drone last summer. The Sunday Telegraph leads with Douglas

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Carswell's resignation from Ukip, reporting that it could lead to a

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civil war within the party. Independent also has a picture of

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Douglas Carswell, but its main story features calls for Europe to stick

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together following the Westminster terror attacks. You were there when

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the horror unfolded. A very striking photo of Tobias Ellwood, not a new

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photo, but seeing it in that context is a very strong image. It is the

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first time he has spoken to a newspaper since then. You know, he

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was a modest hero. I remember speaking to an MP who said, you

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know, that they were told to get out of the way. By the police. Tobias

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Ellwood went the other way, to the way that they were being told to go.

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He went because he is a former soldier. He thought he might be able

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to help, and he did actually try to do all he could to try to save Keith

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Palmer and to stop the bleeding. But unfortunately he wasn't able to do

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it. Ruth, to the left, a photograph of Keith Palmer. We have seen this

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photograph before, it is bringing all of the pieces together over the

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weekend, I suspect a lot of the papers will do that. The photo was

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taken by a tourist whom he posed with 45 minutes before he died. He

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is wearing the stab best which unfortunately wasn't able to protect

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other parts of his body. You go in and out of those gates on a regular

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basis, you were a Treasury official a few years ago, you are a regular

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at Westminster talking to committees, giving evidence and so

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on. You must have been chilled by what you saw. I think he looked very

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vulnerable. What strikes me is at the gates there are an armed police.

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I think they were on at some point, and there were objections from MPs

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and visitors. That will have to change. I see Lord Ian Blair, you

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said in the introduction, he is calling for tighter security of the

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Commons, and I think that is almost a first stop that they have armed

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police there. They have an police around the rest of the Houses of

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Parliament and nobody bats an eyelid. There is a dilemma. I spoke

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on the night of this attack to Lord Laxton, who you will probably know

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both as Alastair Cook, from the Tory Party, he was an aide to an MP who

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was blown up almost on the very spot where this attack happened in 1979.

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He said one of the things that people like her used to say is, we

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don't want to be treated any differently than anybody else. Those

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who are against our democracy win, in a sense. I don't think that is

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realistic. You do have to protect these places. Nobody wanted to put

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those gates up outside Downing Street either. It was nice to have

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Downing Street as a normal London street, but it's not practical.

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There are armed police around Westminster already. There was a

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counterargument. One of the reports today said that perhaps the police

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themselves or security services are concerned that having an armed

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officer may make them a potential target. Whereas if you had roving

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armed police and unarmed officers but officers with protection that

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might be a good balance, but clearly you think events have proved that

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wrong. I think they have to be insistent. They have armed police

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now, there is a precedent for it. I think the police by the gates should

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be armed as well stop right let's move on to the Observer. This, John,

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is the report from you are gassed all. They are increasingly confident

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according to this report, although the police haven't said this openly

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yet, that Khalid Masood acted alone and we may never actually no,

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because he didn't share that information, why he did what he did

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on Wednesday. Talk about a fast moving story. 24 hours ago we were

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reporting the exact opposite. These WhatsApp messages they wanted to get

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at. Suggesting he had been indoctrinated and perhaps encouraged

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to do it. I think... You know, how do I know? This feels more plausible

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to me, that we are just talking about a man armed with nothing more

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than a car and a knife. You know, in a rage about, you know, goodness

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knows what and we will probably never know. It's very odd, because

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he was 52 years old, and in a way, you think of people in a rage in

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their 20s and teens, young men who fired up by jihadists. He doesn't

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seem to have been motivated by that. In fact we don't know what his

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motivation was. It does seem as though it was premeditated, he must

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have worked out his route to come across the Westminster Bridge, to

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work out where he would do quite a lot of damage. Thank goodness he

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didn't do more damage, actually. More to the point, if he acted

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alone, as Amber Rudd said the other day, you really can't stop all of

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these things come you know. I'm afraid in an open society there is

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always a risk that we will be hit by people like this. Let's move on to

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the other story on the front of the Observer. In a sense we have been

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talking about, terrible for those involved, but a comparatively small

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number of casualties compared to what is happening in so many other

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parts of the world on sadly an almost daily basis. One place where

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the casualty numbers one loses track of almost is Iraq. This assault on

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Mosul has been going on for months. It is hard to tell how much progress

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is being made and how come you know, the objective is to take the whole

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of Mosul, but quite how far they are in achieving it. I remember reports

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months ago suggesting that Mosul was about to fall and you got the

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impression that this was something that was going to happen in the next

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few days. It is extraordinary how much Iraq has just forward of the

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front pages of our newspapers. But, you know, good for the Observer for

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putting it back there. Well, a tragic civil war, we know that. At

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the end of the day, the Iraqi forces will actually prevail and they will

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we take Mosul. This attack actually took place last week. It has

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suddenly come into view. The UN has raised concerns about the number of

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civilians and whether if you like the ends justify the means. Let's be

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honest about this, they are going to resume this attack on Mosul, they

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are going to get hold of Mosul, and Isis will be pushed further and

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further and told the caliphate, as they call it, will disappear. At the

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terrorism will continue. Let's move on to the Independent. Job, you know

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about this story because it is your photograph on the top left there. By

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2020, cars will be Tory again, you say that as if it is of years? It is

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obvious that he wants to rejoin the Conservative Party -- Douglas

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Carswell. Theresa May's whole approach, a lot of what she is

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interested in, is getting back the Ukip voters who deserted the Tory

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body. That is what grammar schools was about, her hard line on Brexiter

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-- who deserted the Tory Party. It would be hard if you are a Tory

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activists in Clacton, given that he has rubbed your nose in it by

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holding the seat... Forcing a by-election. Douglas Carswell is a

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very engaging blokes, very popular. And I think that they will have him

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back. He was always a square peg in a round hole in any political

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parties appeal and he is a bit of a maverick, that is part of why we

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like him, he is a free thinker. He doesn't fit in very well, he

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certainly didn't fit in in Ukip, which is a nest of vipers anyway!

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The only thing stopping him coming back to the Tory Party is his own

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principle that if you change party you have got to have a by-election,

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he doesn't want to do that so he is in the holding pen at the moment. I

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think he will rejoin the Tories. Ruth, what do you make of it was

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like he hasn't quite done with instant job's immortal phrase,

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ratted and we ratted, because he hasn't gone to his old party --

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Winston Churchill's phrase. I think he has been Tory all along. He said

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that he joined Ukip because he was desperate for Brexit. A lot of

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Tories were desperate for Brexit, but now it is being delivered by

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Theresa May, he is a Tory. But a strategic Tory. You are not

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connected to any party, but you aren't enthusiastic supporter of

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Brexit. I am a member of the Tory Party. I hadn't realised you are now

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a member. From your point of view, being do so as dispassionate as I

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know you will be about this, do you think Ukip has a purpose now post

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two I don't think. You have just admitted that Laurie Conservative! I

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can authoritative lyc e that Ukip is finished! They are having a civil

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war despite the Sunday Telegraph. There is a very striking image. Ukip

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has been having a Civil War since it was founded! A very wonderfully

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vivid, colourful picture of the floral tributes, some laid by police

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officers outside the site where PC Keith Palmer died. We have time for

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a very interesting story. On the face of it, Ruth, this ought to be

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giving the other editors in Fleet Street palpitations when they see

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this on the front of the Mail and they haven't got it. William's

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helicopter a split-second from lethal crash. Do we know if it is

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true?! Of course it is true, but it is rather carefully phrased. It is

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Prince William's helicopter, but not necessarily with him in it. That's

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very sharp. There is a photograph of Prince William, but you are right,

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it doesn't say he was in there. It was also quite a long time ago,

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that's the other thing. Also, what kind of drone was this? Was it a

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little plastic throne, sort of that size, or was it something more...

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Was it being operated by somebody? We will have to wait until we get a

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hard copy of the paper until we find out on page four. I think it is a

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nonstory! In that case, giving your judgment, Ruth, we won't do it in an

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hour's time, we will find something else to talk about! Revenge on, we

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will be back with you in an hour's time at 11:30pm -- Ruth and John.

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