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Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be

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With me are Anne Ashworth, who's the associate editor

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at the Times, and Bonnie Greer, playwright and writer

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Very glad you have hung around for the next review. I would be no good

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on my own. The Mail on Sunday

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continues its campaign against videos on Google and YouTube

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which show violent or Tomorrow's story highlights a video

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showing how to penetrate Britain's airports and nuclear

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power stations need to tighten their defences

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against terrorist attacks, according to a story on the Sunday

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Telegraph's front page. British passports

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could soon be returning to their former dark blue

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livery following Brexit, The Sunday Times

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headlines the news that some peers are claiming thousands of pounds

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worth of expenses for attending the House of Lords, despite making

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little contribution And the Observer highlights

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pressures being put on the government by some

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cross-party MPs who want to guarantee that EU nationals

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would still be able to work Several Brexit - related stories on

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the front pages. We will begin with the Observer, NHS recruits given

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special status after Brexit. This is a cross-party group. It is very

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logical. I don't know why the government doesn't model the

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society, why it doesn't make a model of the NHS without EU national is

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not without immigrants. Let the people see it. Then we can

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understand the challenge, as opposed to making stories about the

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problems. It is a simple thing to do. Let's see it, let's see how long

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it will take you have national strength up to staff the NHS that we

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need, and let's see the gap in between. That is the reality. These

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stories are important but they don't move a long, they don't get us

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anywhere. There is an urgency about this. It seems as if EU nationals in

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the NHS are going home more than in the past. They are giving up.

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Thinking they won't have a future in the NHS. It is interesting. All of

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the debate about EU migrants has focused on hospitality. Their

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biggest contribution is to the NHS. Exactly. It makes you wonder why

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this simple modelling isn't done. Why are people debating something

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that is easy to do? We can find out the gap. We can make a policy about

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the gap. It could be part of the negotiations. Everyone throwing up

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their hands saying it will be horrible. It is easy to know. Is it

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necessary to have negotiations? Car not the government say, we need

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them. -- cannot the government say. It is about people being told about

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immigration, if you do something logical, we need these people, it

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affects the political question. The government is balancing both of

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these things at the same time. Then you have stories like this. We have

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a number of issues jostling for prominence in the Brexit

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negotiation. Remember, an awful lot of people voted to come out of

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Europe because they thought that there would be an immediate cash

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injection into the NHS. Now, imagine the dismay if the NHS is dismantled

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when these - if these people are forced to go home. I think it is a

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simple thing. If they want to do it, that is the issue which perplexes

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me. Show people what it looks like. It is not difficult. We have the

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tools to do that. There is another NHS story not to do with Brexit on

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the Sunday Times. NHS threatens GPs with closure, this is incorrect,

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with the cost of renting property to run a surgery from the NHS. It seems

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as if the NHS is a landlord to some NHS surgeries. So you have your GP

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surgery and your landlord is the NHS. There has been more money put

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into a transformation in technology and it is putting up the cost of the

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service charges and there is going to be a rebellion over this. I would

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imagine that there is a generation of doctors and medical people,

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nurses within the NHS, who think this is absurd. That is basically

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it. You mean, we will get kicked out because we are not paying your rent?

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When this surgery is what it is about, not the building. You should

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be helping us to stay here as opposed to giving us a bill for

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rent. It doesn't make sense. This is not the point and it might be

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simplistic, can't you move somewhere cheaper and have a different

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landlord, or by the building themselves? The technology required

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as part of the GP role. It is movable, isn't it? You have people

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who have a client base, maybe they can't move. Maybe they can't find

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premises. I am a London. It is not easy to find a place. People cannot

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just move because they cannot pay the rent. I think people probably

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wouldn't know that they were paying rent to the NHS. It was news to me.

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It has been a story that has been bubbling under the medical press and

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is beginning to get national prominence. Exactly. And it is also

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the issue with the NHS. A lot of us don't know how much it has become

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privatised. And how much it is being privatised. That is not to do with

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privatisation, if the NHS owns the building. It is a landlord- tenant

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tussle. The internal market. It is privatisation by other means. Other

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people might argue that is not the case. Well, it is. Let's not get

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bogged down. OK. The Times, ?20 toxic tax for diesel drivers. Not

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long ago we were advised that diesel was a clean option. And now we worry

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about what to do with the diesel cars. It will be too expensive for

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people to drive. We were trying to do the sums outside, with the

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congestion charge and other penalties to drive certain cars

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before 2006, plus the ?20 toxin attacks in London and other cities,

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it might be as much as ?40 a day to drive a car in London and some other

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cities. It would get you onto the train, wouldn't it, or public

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transport. Heaven help us. I live a couple of streets from here and it

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is bad at ten o'clock. There are areas in London that have already

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hit their yearly pollution level. They hit it into ready for hours.

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This is extremely serious. I think Siddique Khan is trying to do

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something about it in London because it cannot go on like this --. This

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is Andrea Leadsom's mission? Yes. He is one of the drivers. Let's have a

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look at the Mail on Sunday, a campaign on what gets shown on the

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websites platforms like Google and YouTube. Google blood money, cashing

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in on five video showing how to pierce a stab vest, like one worn by

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the police officer who was murdered in the Westminster terror attack.

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Without going into too much detail... It is highly unpleasant,

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shot by some weapons enthusiast, a German guy, about how to penetrate a

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stab vest. Let's hope it is not still on YouTube after it has been

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on the front of the Mail on Sunday. He is making money from exhibiting

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that video. It is just yet another - feeding into all of this. We have

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allowed Google to rule over us in all of its manifestations without

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check. Google rules over us. They agree with you again. You're

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absolutely right. Problem is that Google is born in the first

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Amendment culture. That is their culture as a company. The issue

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becomes how to regulate - how can you regulate this behemoth and their

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ideas about expression, how can you do that in a culture like the UK

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which regulates what people say, which regulates what goes on air?

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That is the issue. The pressure is mounting on this country. It is --

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company. It is a publisher. It doesn't even pay the tax it was

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supposed to pay. Google, Google - it is not illegal but let's not get

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into the tax story. This article makes the point that you said it had

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permanently removed these videos. -- YouTube said. It did not reveal how

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much money was made from them. A spokeswoman said we have cleared

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policies against inciting violence and harmful or dangerous activities

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and remove content that breaks guidelines when we are made aware of

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it. -- clear. That is the same as Google. They will take down

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material. Who is meant to police it? Well, again, this culture is a First

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Amendment culture. How can Google adapt itself to this territory? How

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can this territory adapt itself to Google? That is the issue. And that

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is the wall that we are coming up against. We go next to the Sunday

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Telegraph, airports and nuclear power stations on terror alert. And

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we knew that not long ago restrictions were in place for

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taking types of devices on board planes from certain places. And even

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then some holes were found in that security system. This is a wider

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issue to do with not just airports, as the headlines has, but nuclear

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power stations. It will come to the point where ISIS, I call it Daesh,

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it will get to the point where they can understand and get these

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entities, these machines, themselves in their possession and build

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systems that would counter them. That is something that was always

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going to happen. So, the issue now is how to get up to speed to be

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faster than they are. That is what they are doing. Their only job is to

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win this. So they can take a machine, take it back to ISIS hiding

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hole, wherever they are, and build something that counters it. This one

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I think they are putting in the battery of the computer it self the

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bomb. Getting them on board the plane. Yes. And in watches. This

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huge technical know-how. And their strongholds are under threat. They

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have to look too different ways to keep and maintain the terror

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attacks. Well, they are the electronic caliphate now, they don't

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have any territory. This was always going to be a battle of hearts and

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minds at the end of the day. The technology - it is a race. Let's

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stay with the Sunday Telegraph. How the Cabinet plotted to exploit EU

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defence fears. We soon found out about it, didn't we? It was on the

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headlines around the world. The idea that because of the importance of

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Britain sharing intelligence and the security of the EU, that it would be

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a powerful piece of leverage in the talks. It is just extraordinary,

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isn't it, just all of the different issues jostling for what is going to

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be the most important thing. Is it people, is it defence? You know, we

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have a good name in defence in the EU, you know, this is where we have

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our strength, and it probably is legitimate to use as a bargaining

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tool. But Donald Tusk stood up and said he didn't even believe Theresa

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May actually used security as a bargaining tool. He said he can't

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believe she did it and he totally dismissed the fact that she might

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have done. This story says this was discussed. She was a former Home

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Secretary. Exactly. She made the point in the run-up to the

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referendum that security was an important part of the two operation

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with the EU. Would she sacrifice that? I suppose it was - will you

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put that on the table? You are going to share intelligence if we don't do

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what you say? That is how it is. We are still in Nato. Not only that, a

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lot of other things, and we are a leader in defence, a round-the-world

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and in the EU, and it is quite frightening, actually -- around the

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world. And what is also surprising is people didn't think that there

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would be pushed back about it. Because headlines around the world

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were basically, what the heck, that the UK would put it on the table.

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More Brexit stories on the Express, Wi-Fi on the trip to the dentist,

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and things we have to pay for in this ?50 billion except Bill,

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including Polish roads, rail routes and dentists in Bulgaria. All of the

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stuff we have to pick up the tab for after we leave including projects

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that have not even begun. But we did agree to help fund them because they

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were still in. It is a contract. It is so cut and dry. They are able to

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deduct... Is it cut and dry? Yes. I think everything is up for argument.

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Let me put it this way, the way they came up with a ?60 billion, 60

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billion euros thing or whatever, they deducted certain things that

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the UK promised to do and it came out to 60 billion euros. Now,

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whether that is going to be paid is another thing. It is not hard to

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find out what it is. It is a list. It is there. It does exist. It is

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all a lot of creative accounting going on. There are numbers all

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across these stories and you think, really, is it the full truth of what

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we have to pay? And whether we will have to pay for some of the other

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projects that it has already committed to pay for. If anyone

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thinks it will be clean, done and dusted... And that it will last two

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years. Someone says, signed the cheque and then we will talk.

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Finally, the fun of the Sunday Express, true blue passport reborn.

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Apparently the iconic dark blue passport that someone might remember

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will make a comeback, and the conservative MP who chairs the flags

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and heraldry committee... Did you know? No. He says it is a matter of

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identity, having the pink passport. Are you colourblind? It is maroon.

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It has merged us into one European identity which isn't what we are.

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People were unhappy about giving up the dark blue passport. Did you

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really? There is also a percentage of the population - I have never had

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won. I have a pink one, that is for sure, I don't like pink. Burgundy,

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that is yours. Liz Hurley is looking forward to the return of the navy

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blue passport with the crest. She wants deutschmarks as well, she

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wants francs. Does it matter if you are stopped and you have to join a

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long queue? It is - nationhood exemplified by the navy blue

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passport. Is it worth a 500 million at? You see, I am hugely suspicious

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-- ?500 million of effort? I think it would be worth much more. Much

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more. That is it, that is the papers for tonight, thank you, Anne and

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Bonnie. It works so well because they talk to each other, you see?

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