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Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be | :00:17. | :00:19. | |
With me - Kate Devlin, Political Correspondent | :00:20. | :00:22. | |
at The Herald, and the broadcaster David Davies. | :00:23. | :00:32. | |
Education correspondent, political correspondence. So a lot to talk | :00:33. | :00:37. | |
about. They have had a sneak preview, let's give you an idea on | :00:38. | :00:40. | |
what is in the front pages tomorrow morning. | :00:41. | :00:41. | |
'North Korea threatens Trump with nuclear war' | :00:42. | :00:43. | |
is the i's headline, after the country promised | :00:44. | :00:45. | |
The Times claims Europe is braced for a new migrant crisis, | :00:46. | :00:51. | |
after Turkey's President Erdogan indicated he may issue | :00:52. | :00:53. | |
Brussels with an ultimatum on visa-free travel. | :00:54. | :00:56. | |
The Guardian leads with a report from Afghanistan on the impact | :00:57. | :00:58. | |
of last week's bomb attack by US forces. | :00:59. | :01:04. | |
According to the Daily Telegraph, schoolchildren will be given better | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
The paper featured an exclusive interview with Prince Harry today | :01:08. | :01:12. | |
Meanwhile, the Daily Mail says the Duke of Cambridge will call | :01:13. | :01:21. | |
for an end to the UK's stiff upper lip culture, and encourage people | :01:22. | :01:24. | |
The Metro has fresh allegations about Facebook and the social media | :01:25. | :01:32. | |
Top story for the Express is 'Crackdown on foreign crooks', | :01:33. | :01:39. | |
with new rules to be announced by the Justice Secretary, | :01:40. | :01:42. | |
The Mirror has the latest speculation on the disappearance | :01:43. | :01:45. | |
Almost ten years since she vanished in Portugal. | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
Who wants to kick off with this? What has he got to be so cheerful | :01:51. | :02:01. | |
about, David? Well, I suppose we will have to get used to apocalyptic | :02:02. | :02:08. | |
headlines like this. North Korea threatens Trump with nuclear war. | :02:09. | :02:18. | |
This is what, in the past, I would have said, it is an exaggeration. It | :02:19. | :02:22. | |
is not now because it appears to me that we are in uncharted waters in a | :02:23. | :02:28. | |
very big way, and I have seen some of the interviews you have been | :02:29. | :02:32. | |
doing on the News Channel during the day. The most difficult thing seems | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
to me to be that there is no confidence at all that what is a | :02:37. | :02:41. | |
logical discussion that we might regard as logical, the Americans | :02:42. | :02:47. | |
might regard as a logical discussion between civil servants in Washington | :02:48. | :02:52. | |
and in Pyongyang is regarded in that way at all by those in North Korea. | :02:53. | :02:58. | |
So they are not talking the same language at all. Civil servants | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
don't understand each other in the same way and that is before you get | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
to the political leaders. Kate, I don't know if North Korea was on the | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
list of countries who might have a free-trade deal with us after | :03:12. | :03:17. | |
Brexit, I don't know if Boris Johnson David Davis fancy going! I | :03:18. | :03:20. | |
am sure we have something we could sell! We were talking not that long | :03:21. | :03:26. | |
ago, Britain's first Ambassador, in 2002, the first time we have had an | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
Ambassador there, and he says he had no sense that people in Pyongyang in | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
government circles had any idea of the UK thinking in the Foreign | :03:37. | :03:41. | |
Office, and in what used to be called the chancelleries of Europe. | :03:42. | :03:45. | |
It is quite terrifying and frankly, Britain's role is pretty marginal. | :03:46. | :03:52. | |
It is, and you are right. Most days, he looks like a smiling madmen. | :03:53. | :04:00. | |
Especially today. He is chortling. The contrast what you are saying | :04:01. | :04:07. | |
about this ministry we also have to look at Donald Trump and most of his | :04:08. | :04:10. | |
civil servants are still grappling with what he really thinks which | :04:11. | :04:13. | |
seems to be changing on a daily basis. There is so much tough talk | :04:14. | :04:21. | |
from both sides. It is apocalyptic language. I wonder if we are getting | :04:22. | :04:27. | |
hints... People are pulling back from it? It does seem the US is now | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
emphasising diplomatic routes and sanctions. This negotiation idea, | :04:33. | :04:39. | |
both of them, is it just tough talk is? I absolutely want you to be | :04:40. | :04:46. | |
right! The problem is, how much room for manoeuvre is that? We have had | :04:47. | :04:53. | |
sanctions for years. Years and years and years. And the truth is, they | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
have not worked. I would love to know what former President Obama | :04:59. | :05:05. | |
thinks about where we are today. And indeed, interesting to know what | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
Hillary Clinton thinks about it. Whether it would have been any | :05:10. | :05:14. | |
different to President Trump. Yes, had those things happened. We are | :05:15. | :05:20. | |
still just about at this stage of, well, if you do that, we will do the | :05:21. | :05:24. | |
other things. All the rest of it, that cannot go on forever. Shall we | :05:25. | :05:33. | |
move on the front the Express? What about Prince Harry in a moment and a | :05:34. | :05:36. | |
lovely picture of his brother and sister-in-law talking about praising | :05:37. | :05:39. | |
Prince Harry for coming out about his mental anguish. But this story | :05:40. | :05:48. | |
about a crackdown on foreign oil site like the stories we get at this | :05:49. | :05:51. | |
time of year when papers get given stuff before the bank holiday and | :05:52. | :05:58. | |
they think it will be a quiet run. The stay back at work. Tell us about | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
the story and how much do you think it stands? It is important to | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
remember this particular Minister needs a win at the moment, Liz Truss | :06:08. | :06:13. | |
has had a lot of difficulties in recent weeks, heavily criticised by | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
the judiciary, overruled in some of that initiatives she has tried to | :06:18. | :06:22. | |
bring in. So this is an interesting story and it does depend on what the | :06:23. | :06:28. | |
detail will be. As always! Who are these foreign crooks we are cracking | :06:29. | :06:34. | |
down on? The problem might be there not that many of them. There are | :06:35. | :06:38. | |
quite a lot of foreign crooks and people who have been turned down for | :06:39. | :06:44. | |
asylum. So it is that old thing of getting people out of the country | :06:45. | :06:48. | |
again? Yes, and putting the two together. Even the Minister of | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
Justice is suggesting this would be 2,000 cases a year and it would save | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
around 2.7 million. Which in the grand scheme of things is fairly | :06:58. | :07:00. | |
small. There is another figure in the middle of the story, the backlog | :07:01. | :07:05. | |
of cases of asylum seekers deemed subject to removal action,", stood | :07:06. | :07:13. | |
at nearly 27,000 last year, not including the thousands and Royal in | :07:14. | :07:17. | |
legal appeals against the rejection of their applications to stay. I | :07:18. | :07:22. | |
hate to be a sin at, but I have an instinct that this is more work. I | :07:23. | :07:29. | |
hate to be a cynic. More work than my loan and friends! Surely not, | :07:30. | :07:32. | |
there are quotes from Liz Truss saying it is vital and they should | :07:33. | :07:38. | |
be removed as quickly as possible. I feel I have heard this before, and | :07:39. | :07:43. | |
remember Charles Clarke and there was all that stuff about foreign | :07:44. | :07:47. | |
prisoners who should be kicked out after serving their sentences here | :07:48. | :07:50. | |
and they banished, and John Reid before he said the Home Office was | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
broken. It is now the Ministry of Justice. These stories seem to come | :07:56. | :08:00. | |
round on a regular basis. Yes, and it seems quite difficult to achieve, | :08:01. | :08:05. | |
so it seems as if they have narrowed the field of what they are doing. | :08:06. | :08:09. | |
Talking about Case reviews for each individual case and you can see why | :08:10. | :08:12. | |
they are only talking about 2,000 cases a year. In some ways, job | :08:13. | :08:20. | |
done. Front page of the Express, and the Telegraph. Good headlines for a | :08:21. | :08:24. | |
Minister in difficulty going back to work on Tuesday. We mention Harry, | :08:25. | :08:29. | |
the on the front of the Daily Telegraph and you cannot blame them | :08:30. | :08:33. | |
for milking this story. It is a cracker of a story. From their own | :08:34. | :08:40. | |
paper today, at watershed moment for the mental health debate, that is | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
top of tomorrow's Daily Telegraph and about time too. Let's hope | :08:45. | :08:53. | |
Prince Harry's revelation that he took counselling to come to terms | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
with his mother's death has the same effect that that same mother had | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
when she got involved in the HIV aid debate. Which was extraordinary. A | :09:03. | :09:08. | |
catalyst for so much in terms of changing attitudes. A lot of | :09:09. | :09:11. | |
hostility towards people with HIV and she became a reassuring figure | :09:12. | :09:17. | |
and a lot of people were very nervous about how we should deal | :09:18. | :09:21. | |
with it and react. Absolutely, but I could not help on the way in here | :09:22. | :09:30. | |
the studio, we saw the ten o'clock news stop and there we have, my | :09:31. | :09:35. | |
goodness, a change for children taking maths and that is, I think, | :09:36. | :09:42. | |
is that right? And the grading systems. Where is this coming from? | :09:43. | :09:51. | |
Politicians again. Some of us have lived through education revolution | :09:52. | :09:57. | |
of the education revolution. Going back 30 years or more! And you get | :09:58. | :10:04. | |
to a point, are our politicians in this country incapable of finding a | :10:05. | :10:09. | |
consensus, a consensus for a set number of years, from whichever | :10:10. | :10:14. | |
political party they come from. And letting the teachers get on with the | :10:15. | :10:20. | |
job. This is the teachers conference. I am sure you have spent | :10:21. | :10:27. | |
many happy weekends! Some of us have the wounds from the past. We were | :10:28. | :10:31. | |
talking about this then and we are no further. Kate, finally, do you | :10:32. | :10:36. | |
think something like this differently in schools in Scotland | :10:37. | :10:40. | |
in terms of issues like support for pupils in crisis and counselling, | :10:41. | :10:47. | |
compared to what has happened and in England? I think across the UK, all | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
schools are still struggling to understand the scale and extent of | :10:53. | :10:58. | |
the problem. And then to try and deal with a societywide stigma. But | :10:59. | :11:05. | |
it talks about depression and anxiety on the increase of 70% in | :11:06. | :11:08. | |
the last 25 years. Among young people. I don't think we have yet | :11:09. | :11:14. | |
grappled with how big a problem it is. Hopefully, we will talk about | :11:15. | :11:20. | |
this more at half past 11. That is a flavour of what is coming up. | :11:21. | :11:26. | |
You'll both be back at 11:30 for another look at the front pages. | :11:27. | :11:31. | |
And if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
The skies are starting to clear that we're in for a chilly night, a touch | :11:35. | :12:09. | |
of frost around in many areas, and a sharp frost across the far | :12:10. | :12:10. |