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Hello there and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be


With me are Alison Little, deputy political editor at


The Daily Express, and Lucy Fisher, senior political


Good to see you both. Happy there's an election? I'm exhilarated, I'm


very happy! I can see you are. Let's look at some of the front pages. The


Metro says, bring it on, after MPs Metro says, bring it on, after MPs


voted for the snap general election on June the 8th. According to the


Daily Mail, the Conservative manifesto will guarantee the end of


free movement. The Daily Telegraph reports a warning from Theresa May


that the SNP is plotting what she has called a coalition of chaos. The


Times claims the Prime Minister is being forced into a concession over


migrant targets as part of the price for calling the snap election.


Philanthropist Bill Gates has warned that lives will be at risk if the


Conservatives cut overseas aid, that is the top story on the front of the


Guardian. Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn features on the front page of


the Financial Times. The mirror headline is foul play, as the paper


calls Theresa May chicken for refusing to take part in TV debates.


We're going to start with the Metro. "Bring It on". There was no debate,


note surprise this was going to happen, the Labour Party decided to


back it, what a transformation 24 hours makes. Yes. Even last week we


were writing cheerily about the onset of nuclear war and then all


that has gone and suddenly here we are! I can tell you there are MPs


frantically deciding what they want to do. Those who said they would go


on until 2020 and stop, they have a hard and quick decision to make


because of her. But she was ready for it, they are off, and off they


go onto the campaign trail. Lucy, how prepared are the parties really


for this, considering it's literally out of the blue? There is a whole


organisation that has got to be sorted out to deal with this kind of


thing. That's absolutely right, but when you look at CCH queue, they


have already co-opted in Sir Lynton Crosby, the strategist credited with


masterminding David Cameron's success in 2015. There might have


been some planning effort because GCHQ has been rushing in recent


weeks and months to update its candidates list under the radar. So


to my mind, the Conservatives look in a little bit better shape than


Labour and the Lib Dems, who have been a bit more court on the hoof.


Certainly with Labour, they had a long meeting with their governing


body to date and decide the rules. I think all parties now just need to


get bodies in every seat ready to get going. It's just seven weeks.


The Financial Times front page is Mr Corbyn, he is in Croydon, a marginal


constituency. The caption at the top, "Call to arms, Corbyn targets


the rich as MPs vote to set election clock ticking, he clearly feels of


course that he can win. He is supported, surrounded by the party


faithful, there. And he is on the stump. I think my point and we might


row about this, is that I see that picture of Corbyn and I saw him on


the television earlier and he walks into this rally amid cheers, someone


said "I love you, I love you". This is where he's happiest, which is


fine, because Theresa May also pictured in the Telegraph surrounded


by her supporters. But critics of Jeremy Corbyn will say, this is the


early thing he can do coming he loves these rallies, that is where


he is happiest. We saw him at Prime Minister's Question Time today and I


don't know how you thought he performed, but he was quite


stumbling, there was no support from his MPs, he is miserable that. But


when he is in this rally situation can he loves it. If you're going to


be leader of the party and Prime Minister, you need to be able to do


the other stuff as well, I think. He reminds me of a certain chap in


1992. Mr major? That's right. He had a little soapbox. And it worked.


Donald Trump. Donald Trump just stood there in front of the party


faithful, didn't go anywhere else. He won too. It could work for Mr


Corbyn. No? CHUCKLES


I don't know, I think there is something in that. I'm sure the


people in labour HQ are looking at John Major's soapbox talk, I think


it is a backlash against the slickness... The trouble is there


comes a point when in Dearing Dottie nature becomes an image of


incompetence. Tuesday night we were waiting for him and all his MPs to


attend a meeting of the PLP, very important, do talk about the


election, and he was an hour late because he was stuck on a train


coming back from a constituency. You might say it shows he's a man of the


people... Know, being late is tardy, whether you are left, right,


whatever. On the front page of the Telegraph we have Theresa May in a


similar sort of setting. She has gone to her constituency and she is


surrounded by the party faithful. The criticism of her could be that


this is her comfort zone and that she, for instance, doesn't want to


be on a TV debate. No, I think it's certainly something the rest of us


want to see, not least in Westminster media circles, her


pitched against Jeremy Corbyn and possibly other leaders, Tim Farron.


They are always quite good fun and I think quite revealing. Sorry Dinda


up but it is a similar criticism to Jeremy Corbyn, that she is not that


nimble on her feet. In a sense, why would she want to hand over power,


the certainty of that volatile situation when she doesn't need to.


It will be interesting to see what happens. Because there was such a


long lead up to 2015, there was a real chance for everyone to heap


pressure on David Cameron. She might try and skip through without doing


it. But I think where she has got is also interesting. Where Jeremy


Corbyn was in London, the heartlands of his support, she went to Bolton.


Those northern pro Brexit Labour held seats with a sizeable Ukip vote


are now in the Tories's sites. The Times had a new poll out the night


with you guv data showing that there is a 24 point lead for the Tories


now over Labour. That is an increased majority over Labour,


coming from the Ukip vote slipping. I think we will hear about that more


in the coming days. Those seats in the north-west and the north-east,


Labour would have thought they could count on but because a lot of them


voted Brexit and labour doesn't seem to have a coherent policy on


Brexit... Quite right, they don't. That makes it difficult for them


when they are campaigning there. I think it does and they lot of them


still feel neglected by an Labour and they are still struggling. I


think there are quite a few Ukip now saying we're going to vote


Conservative because that is how we secure Brexit. And I don't think of


the London voice, I don't know how much it appeals. They've is really


going to have to get its election machine in gear. Let's go to the


front page of the Independent. Reveal, Corbyn's plan to hang on


even if Labour suffers a humiliating defeat. This is a man who has


survived one leadership election, another leadership election, a


massive vote of no-confidence in own party. The suggestion here seems to


be that even if there is a wipe-out and the Conservatives get a three


figure majority, he will still hang on. That is absolutely where my


money is and has always been. He will not stand down. As you say,


Clive, he showed himself to be completely impervious to pressure


until now. I'm not convinced that he is on the edge and unbecoming the


psychological pressure that some people seem to think. This is a


battle the left have been waging an waiting for their chance for


decades, they're not going to give it up without a mechanism being in


place to hand over to a left-wing candidate. I think there are so many


risks involved in them trying to get through the so-called McDonald


amendment bringing down the threshold of Labour MPs needed to


get on the ballot paper, I think... He's going to want to hang on.


Having said that, it is the biggest party in Europe, the membership is


at record levels because of Jeremy Corbyn, why should he go? Even if he


does go and they do lose? Those adoring supporters do exist. We have


seen them. And they firmly believe in him and his project. Yes, and he


did want to give his members more say in deselecting some of the


sitting MPs, which scared the living daylights out of some of the


moderates, but they might have decided that wasn't enough time to


do that. And he does claim, yes, that it is a movement of the people


and they can defy the polls with their message. He is trying to make


it about the economy, living standards, something different. A


lot of people believing his policies. I don't think he can


possibly win, after last year. But after last year we would be foolish


to make firm predictions! Theresa May's cast-iron Brexit pledge. It


will guarantee the end of free movement and no more meddling by


European judges. And that is a cast-iron guarantee, which I think


will make conservatives feel a bit queasy, because the last time David


Cameron said cast-iron, it all went morally wrong. Can we trust anything


Theresa May says now, after saying she was not going to have a snap


election? I think she will be held to account. She had to U-turn pretty


quickly on the national insurance debacle and the budget. But I think


this is interesting. Home Secretary Amber Rudd hinted that with Theresa


May seeking a larger mandate, that could be a way in which she is


seeking to land a softer kind of Brexit. So I think this is Theresa


May making clear to the Daily Mail, and the right wing of her party,


that no, she's going to stick to those pledges, the end of freedom of


movement, the end of the jurisdiction of the European court


of justice, and I think that is something that is expected. What


people will also be looking for, the final Cameron legacy she dumps,


going forward into the next election, could be that she cares up


the pledge of no .7% aid and the lock on pensions is set to go, so


there could be a lot of focus on that. The front page of The Times,


Theresa May forced to weaken key target on migrants. The Times are


saying this is part of the price of calling a quick election. You have a


lot to tie up before Parliament rises for the election campaign.


They are saying she's going to have to give in, not necessarily


completely, but to keep students out of the net migration figures, which,


famously of course, and she hasn't dropped this pledge yet, we think


she might do. That was a Cameron pledge, to get net migration under


100,000 a year. If you include students, 134,000 international


students arrived in 2016, those numbers, you can make that target


even more impossible to get. They are saying that she wants to get a


bill through the House of Lords to enable universities to raise their


fees even higher, and the cost of that could be that she makes a


concession. But also I know, I think the Foreign Office and various


ministers, I went to India with Theresa May on her trip last year


and there is a lot of concern here and in countries like India that


Britain is being unfriendly towards their students and making it


difficult for them to arrive. They would say that they bring benefits


and prunes to this country. So it might help with International


relations as well if they would soften their stance a little. OK, so


the horse trading has already begun before the election even starts. Any


suggestion that Theresa May is going to weaken on key migrant targets is


not going to be what a lot of people in the country want to hear. It's an


interesting one, I think particularly the student numbers,


because I think people think they only come here temporarily and the


evidence shows that very few overstayed their visas. People say,


why should they be counted alongside people that come and settle here


long-term and put a long-term burden, the argument goes, an


essential public services, health and education. So I think this is a


slightly more niche issue to the whole immigration question but


certainly immigration numbers and whether she's forced to put a


concrete cap in her manifesto as a pledge going into the election... I


think Ukip is going to campaign very hard on immigration. OK, finally, it


is your story in the express, "I'm stepping down from the Commons for


now", not you, George Osborne! There is a picture of him. He's going to


be the editor of the Evening Standard and he is not going to seek


re-election. Yes, but he is leaving the House of Commons "For now". He


always fancied himself to be a great newsmaker and wants to show himself


to be intriguing and mysterious. But we just hate it because he's going


to earn loads more money from journalism for much less work than


we ever will! I think he must have concluded he could not fight... If


he fought for re-election as an MP, there would have been so many


questions over his commitment to the job because he was not only going to


be the editor of a daily newspaper but he has various other roles as


well. 70 grand as an MP, X number of gold bullion bars as editor of a


newspaper! Difficult decision! By having all said -- having said that,


he missed his first deadline today. He did, first rule of journalism,


make your deadlines. He didn't make the print edition. Dear oh dear, Mr


Osborne, you had better do better! Great having you with us. Many


thanks for that. Don't forget you can see the front


pages of the papers online And you can see a recording of this


broadcast any time you like, on iPlayer. Relive the memories!


Another quiet evening out there and for the remainder of the week, the


weather is going to remain settled. If anything, just a touch warmer,


particularly across some southern and eastern areas of the UK, but